Would WWE ever bring back WCW?

[markdeez33]

Would they make it an equal brand or squash it like they did ECW?

Or is the WCW staying dead ever since that Buff Bagwell vs Booker T main event on Raw years ago that fluked?

I was hoping to see some sort of a WCW resurrection considering that Wrestlemania is in ATL in 2011. Was even thinking of getting tickets for it (mostly to see Undertaker defend the streak) but it would be awesome to see some old WCW guys on there just for the nostalgia.

And I am not a WCW mark at all, I just think it would be cool to see them back in action after all this time.

[Cliff Levingston]

Nope. No reason to. If you want to watch old WCW guys, check out TNA.

[CapeCrusader]

Nope. No reason to. If you want to watch old WCW guys, check out TNA.

+1

[CapeCrusader]

WCW is dead, looking back on it I was surprised they did an ECW brand in the first place. But it wasn't the same so it doesn't matter.

As for Mania being in ATL this year, I heard that they are possibly doing a WCW Hall of Fame theme somewhat this year. While Goldberg was in talks about one more match at Mania, but don't know if that was serious or not.

[skbucks1985]

ECW had a rabid niche audience and that would be perfect for a secondary show. Atleast I'm guessing that's what there thought process is.

WCW simply doesn't have that. There's also the case of Vinnie Mac's ego. ECW was never a real threat to WWE so it allowed him to bring them back. WCW was and they very nearly did put WWE out of business.

[markdeez33]

I've tried to watch TNA and I just feel its an inferior product.

Yes it has a lot of old WCW talent, yes it even has a WCW feel but its just something about it that won't let me get into it, not quite sure what.

WWE sucks now, but I still follow it somewhat.

I just wish we could go back and re-do the Invasion from 2001 :/

[Cliff Levingston]

I've tried to watch TNA and I just feel its an inferior product.

Yes it has a lot of old WCW talent, yes it even has a WCW feel but its just something about it that won't let me get into it, not quite sure what.

WWE sucks now, but I still follow it somewhat.

I just wish we could go back and re-do the Invasion from 2001 :/

WCW sucked much worse than WWE does now before the nWo angle, and even afterward. The only time WCW was any good was about '96 through '99, and even then, you might argue that WCW was only better than the WWF for one of those years, which was right before Austin and the Rock picked up steam. WCW had basically one or two huge years with the infusion of lots of big names from the WWF like Hogan, Hall, Nash, Luger, etc, but other than that, it was basically what TNA is right now... a bunch of middling talent that don't have major drawing power.

About the only great thing WCW has ever done is sign way top talent from the WWF and (to their credit) come up with the nWo angle. It really only worked for a year or so before the nWo became so convoluted with crappy wrestlers (Norton, Bagwell, etc) that they basically had to split it into two factions to keep it relevant. Once the nWo lost all of it's steam, WCW folded. Hell, WCW was so crappy that they didn't even know how to use one of the best wrestlers of all-time: Bret Hart.

It all boils down to the ability to find and nurture main event talent. If you look at professional wrestling in the last 30 years, the WWE has developed all the major names that anyone would know anything about outside of hardcore wrestling fans. Steve Austin, Hulk Hogan, Dwayne Johnson, John Cena. Outside of those huge names, they're responsible for the major draws there has been in the wrestling industry during that time span; guys like the Ultimate Warrior, Andre the Giant, The Undertaker, Shawn Michaels, Bret Hart, HHH, Kurt Angle and others. The only guy that belongs on that list that the WCW built from the ground up is Sting (Flair made his name in the NWA).

[Dunthreevy]

I've tried to watch TNA and I just feel its an inferior product.

Yes it has a lot of old WCW talent, yes it even has a WCW feel but its just something about it that won't let me get into it, not quite sure what.

WWE sucks now, but I still follow it somewhat.

I just wish we could go back and re-do the Invasion from 2001 :/

WCW sucked much worse than WWE does now before the nWo angle, and even afterward. The only time WCW was any good was about '96 through '99, and even then, you might argue that WCW was only better than the WWF for one of those years, which was right before Austin and the Rock picked up steam. WCW had basically one or two huge years with the infusion of lots of big names from the WWF like Hogan, Hall, Nash, Luger, etc, but other than that, it was basically what TNA is right now... a bunch of middling talent that don't have major drawing power.

About the only great thing WCW has ever done is sign way top talent from the WWF and (to their credit) come up with the nWo angle. It really only worked for a year or so before the nWo became so convoluted with crappy wrestlers (Norton, Bagwell, etc) that they basically had to split it into two factions to keep it relevant. Once the nWo lost all of it's steam, WCW folded. Hell, WCW was so crappy that they didn't even know how to use one of the best wrestlers of all-time: Bret Hart.

It all boils down to the ability to find and nurture main event talent. If you look at professional wrestling in the last 30 years, the WWE has developed all the major names that anyone would know anything about outside of hardcore wrestling fans. Steve Austin, Hulk Hogan, Dwayne Johnson, John Cena. Outside of those huge names, they're responsible for the major draws there has been in the wrestling industry during that time span; guys like the Ultimate Warrior, Andre the Giant, The Undertaker, Shawn Michaels, Bret Hart, HHH, Kurt Angle and others. The only guy that belongs on that list that the WCW built from the ground up is Sting (Flair made his name in the NWA).

End of story.

[CapeCrusader]

I've tried to watch TNA and I just feel its an inferior product.

Yes it has a lot of old WCW talent, yes it even has a WCW feel but its just something about it that won't let me get into it, not quite sure what.

WWE sucks now, but I still follow it somewhat.

I just wish we could go back and re-do the Invasion from 2001 :/

WCW sucked much worse than WWE does now before the nWo angle, and even afterward. The only time WCW was any good was about '96 through '99, and even then, you might argue that WCW was only better than the WWF for one of those years, which was right before Austin and the Rock picked up steam. WCW had basically one or two huge years with the infusion of lots of big names from the WWF like Hogan, Hall, Nash, Luger, etc, but other than that, it was basically what TNA is right now... a bunch of middling talent that don't have major drawing power.

About the only great thing WCW has ever done is sign way top talent from the WWF and (to their credit) come up with the nWo angle. It really only worked for a year or so before the nWo became so convoluted with crappy wrestlers (Norton, Bagwell, etc) that they basically had to split it into two factions to keep it relevant. Once the nWo lost all of it's steam, WCW folded. Hell, WCW was so crappy that they didn't even know how to use one of the best wrestlers of all-time: Bret Hart.

It all boils down to the ability to find and nurture main event talent. If you look at professional wrestling in the last 30 years, the WWE has developed all the major names that anyone would know anything about outside of hardcore wrestling fans. Steve Austin, Hulk Hogan, Dwayne Johnson, John Cena. Outside of those huge names, they're responsible for the major draws there has been in the wrestling industry during that time span; guys like the Ultimate Warrior, Andre the Giant, The Undertaker, Shawn Michaels, Bret Hart, HHH, Kurt Angle and others. The only guy that belongs on that list that the WCW built from the ground up is Sting (Flair made his name in the NWA).

One guy you missed on from WCW was Goldberg. The man was a gigantic star and nobody can deny that.

[Dunthreevy]

One guy you missed on from WCW was Goldberg. The man was a gigantic star and nobody can deny that.

Good point. He was completely a product of WCW and was as big as anybody when his name was hot.

[skbucks1985]

I'd add DDP as well because he was a huge star in WCW as well.

But the overall point is correct and I'd say the sad thing is WCW had the guys on there roster to be the next generation of stars. I'm not talking about SCSA, HHH or Taker all of whom were in WCW at one time or another. You had guys like Benoit, Eddie Guerrerro, Rey Mysterio, Chris Jericho and Booker T all of whom were extremely over in WCW and won the title in WWE and except for Booker T at the very end of WCW none of these guys were strongly pushed. You also had a number of guys who were extremely over in WCW but had a limited level of success in WWE in Saturn, Raven and Billy Kidman.

[Cliff Levingston]

I've tried to watch TNA and I just feel its an inferior product.

Yes it has a lot of old WCW talent, yes it even has a WCW feel but its just something about it that won't let me get into it, not quite sure what.

WWE sucks now, but I still follow it somewhat.

I just wish we could go back and re-do the Invasion from 2001 :/

WCW sucked much worse than WWE does now before the nWo angle, and even afterward. The only time WCW was any good was about '96 through '99, and even then, you might argue that WCW was only better than the WWF for one of those years, which was right before Austin and the Rock picked up steam. WCW had basically one or two huge years with the infusion of lots of big names from the WWF like Hogan, Hall, Nash, Luger, etc, but other than that, it was basically what TNA is right now... a bunch of middling talent that don't have major drawing power.

About the only great thing WCW has ever done is sign way top talent from the WWF and (to their credit) come up with the nWo angle. It really only worked for a year or so before the nWo became so convoluted with crappy wrestlers (Norton, Bagwell, etc) that they basically had to split it into two factions to keep it relevant. Once the nWo lost all of it's steam, WCW folded. Hell, WCW was so crappy that they didn't even know how to use one of the best wrestlers of all-time: Bret Hart.

It all boils down to the ability to find and nurture main event talent. If you look at professional wrestling in the last 30 years, the WWE has developed all the major names that anyone would know anything about outside of hardcore wrestling fans. Steve Austin, Hulk Hogan, Dwayne Johnson, John Cena. Outside of those huge names, they're responsible for the major draws there has been in the wrestling industry during that time span; guys like the Ultimate Warrior, Andre the Giant, The Undertaker, Shawn Michaels, Bret Hart, HHH, Kurt Angle and others. The only guy that belongs on that list that the WCW built from the ground up is Sting (Flair made his name in the NWA).

One guy you missed on from WCW was Goldberg. The man was a gigantic star and nobody can deny that.

Cliff Levingston purposely left that out to see if anyone would bring him up. Goldberg had his little run. He was a huge star at the time, but he had very little longevity. He'd basically be on the same level as Brock Lesnar from a stardom standpoint (even though he was about 1/10th the wrestler Lesnar was)... or other guys like Yokozuna, Sid, etc. He doesn't belong even remotely close to guys like Stone Cold, the Rock, or even HBK or Taker.

I'd add DDP as well because he was a huge star in WCW as well.

But the overall point is correct and I'd say the sad thing is WCW had the guys on there roster to be the next generation of stars. I'm not talking about SCSA, HHH or Taker all of whom were in WCW at one time or another. You had guys like Benoit, Eddie Guerrerro, Rey Mysterio, Chris Jericho and Booker T all of whom were extremely over in WCW and won the title in WWE and except for Booker T at the very end of WCW none of these guys were strongly pushed. You also had a number of guys who were extremely over in WCW but had a limited level of success in WWE in Saturn, Raven and Billy Kidman.

DDP was about as big as Booker T was. He had a nice run but he was nothing you could build a company on really. He was basically on the same level Edge is right now, maybe a little lower.

You could make an argument that Nash was made bigger in WCW than he was in the WWF, but Nash was HUGE as Diesel in the WWF. They definitely made Hall bigger than he ever was in the WWF. WCW's true bellcow at that time was Hogan though; an obvious WWF product.

Booker T was probably bigger in WCW than he was in the WWE, but it's close as Booker had a major role for a long time, even a high profile program with the Rock. The WWE definitely took Guerrero, Benoit, Mysterio, Jericho and the Big Show to much bigger heights than WCW did. They also made huge stars out of WCW cast-offs, most notably Stone Cold but also Mick Foley.

Nostalgic angles are never, ever as good as their first incarnation and always become stale quickly if trying to hold onto them too long. The nWo revival in the WWE was pathetic. The HBK/HHH multiple DX re-unions were never as good as the original. The ECW re-union in TNA is an unmitigated disaster. Besides, a revival of WCW wouldn't actually be WCW, just a WWE product branded as WCW like ECW on Syfy was for those couple years.

You want to see the majority of what WCW was, go watch TNA, and that's not a joke... they've got most of the same people booking their shows.

[CapeCrusader]

Cliff Levingston purposely left that out to see if anyone would bring him up. Goldberg had his little run. He was a huge star at the time, but he had very little longevity. He'd basically be on the same level as Brock Lesnar from a stardom standpoint (even though he was about 1/10th the wrestler Lesnar was)... or other guys like Yokozuna, Sid, etc. He doesn't belong even remotely close to guys like Stone Cold, the Rock, or even HBK or Taker.

In the ring aside, to say he wasn't on the level of Austin, The Rock and others is not fair at all. This man was built to destroy the whos who of wrestling, which he did. He was built to the point where he was just as big (some might argue bigger) then the nWo was as a faction.

The Rock and Austin were the sole reasons WWE is still alive and running today, but WCW needed Goldberg to compete.

[skbucks1985]

I wouldn't disagree with the DDP-Edge comparison, but that's still a pretty high place to have a guy. Is it at the level of The Rock, of course not but you can only have 2-3 guys like that very generation.

Booker only got a main event push in WCW when it was very clear that they were working on borrowed time. Booker's tenure in WWE was very up and down he had that program with The Rock, but he was also completely buried in that feud. He worked his way back up and then he lost to HHH at WM, in IMO one of the most disgraceful moves I've ever seen, and was thrown back into the mid-card and then after toiling in the mid-card and upper mid-card for a while he finally got a sustained push with the King Booker angle. I guess you could make the argument he was a bigger star in WCW because he was there franchise player for a while even if it was on a sinking ship because he was never that in WWE

[sh00n]

It'll never happen. But man, I wish Russo never happened. Him, Bischoff and all the stupid power they gave Hogan and Nash in their contracts killed the WCW. During the Monday Night Wars though, WCW was by far the best wrestling ever besides the golden era. Had they decided to actually push the young talent instead of getting all the vets over, they'd still be around today.

[Celtics_Champs]

I loved WCW.

Bringing it back won't work, but maybe a wcw themed hall of fame would, like someone said earlier. I'd love to see Goldberg be inducted.

[Dunthreevy]

I wouldn't disagree with the DDP-Edge comparison, but that's still a pretty high place to have a guy. Is it at the level of The Rock, of course not but you can only have 2-3 guys like that very generation.

Booker only got a main event push in WCW when it was very clear that they were working on borrowed time. Booker's tenure in WWE was very up and down he had that program with The Rock, but he was also completely buried in that feud. He worked his way back up and then he lost to HHH at WM, in IMO one of the most disgraceful moves I've ever seen, and was thrown back into the mid-card and then after toiling in the mid-card and upper mid-card for a while he finally got a sustained push with the King Booker angle. I guess you could make the argument he was a bigger star in WCW because he was there franchise player for a while even if it was on a sinking ship because he was never that in WWE

The point you make about Booker T being buried in his feud with The Rock, is the very reason why Sting didn't sign with WWE back then. I always wanted Sting in the WWE, even at that point. Throw him in the mix of the WWE in the early 90's and he would've been bigger the Ultimate Warrior at that time.

[skbucks1985]

Yeah I saw that interview as well. With the Invasion angle, I sometimes wonder if there had been more than DDP, Booker T and a bunch of a relative nobodies would WCW still have been buried to the degree they were. If Sting, Goldberg, Flair, Scott Steiner, The Outsiders, Hogan if some of those guys had come along perhaps we wouldn't have seen it turn out as badly as it did

[CapeCrusader]

I thought the Invasion angle wasn't as bad as people make it out to be. Obviously it could of been hell of a lot better with the guys mentioned above. But still wasn't bad either.

Would of been cool to see Sting and Goldberg there and not have Austin jump ship or have The Rock in there from the begining.

I keep forgetting where was Triple H during the angle? Injured?

[skbucks1985]

Trips was injured. I disagree strongly with you there. I thought this was the most dissappointing angle in history. Vinnie Mac's number 1 priority wasn't to have a successful angle but to show the WWE's dominance. The conclusion of the angle should tell you it all. It wasn't some epic confrontation between Goldberg and Austin or Sting and Undertaker, it was Austin and The Rock something we'd seen dozens of times before