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New top 20 list up on wwe.com of the top 20 icons of the attitude era...

20) APA


19) Shane McMahon


18) Goldust


17) Dudleyz


16) Bret Hart


15) Team XTreme


14) Kurt Angle


13) Steph


12) Big Show


11) Edge & Christian


10) Y2J


9) Kane


8) New Age Outlaws


7) Undertaker


6) HBK


5) Vince


4) Mankind


3) HHH


2) The Rock


1) Stone Cold

HHH seems high to me, I wouldn't put him before HBK or Undertaker.

Kurt Angle seems low.

I wouldn't consider Big Show a icon of the Era, to be honest; he was mostly just sort of "there."

1 Stone Cold - Undisputed
2 The Rock - Easily 2nd
3 Undertaker - Most Intimidating Force of the Attitude Era
4 Mankind - Fearless and Merciless...took major bumps
5 Vince - on here this high for participating and taking bumps in the mayhem that was the Attitude Era
6 HBK - Ultimate underdog
7 Kurt Angle - Best Wrestler
8 HHH - DX
9 Y2J - Best natural gimmick, it seemed like he actually was who he pretended to be
10 Kane - Brothers of Destruction - Battles with Undertaker - 2nd most intimidating force

Agree about Big Show being there. I also think Bret should be considered higher, he was the catalyst for DX and HBK's more attitude evolvement, he was part of the greatest double-turn match with Steve Austin and was the catalyst for McMahon's character. Also, feel like Mankind is a bit higher than he should be, top 10 for sure but not at 4 and Angle should also be higher.

I'd give honourable mentions to some of the mid-card acts, Godfather, Crash Holly, Val Venis, D-Lo, Al Snow, 2 Cool, some of these acts were getting amazing reactions exceeding the main eventers of today, what a time it was

Also, when do you guys think the attitude era actually started? You could see the seeds in acts like Goldust, "Austin 3:16" promo, "Pillman's got a gun!", the Bret Hart **** promo, DX, but my vote goes to WrestleMania 14 as the date the Attitude Era was officially born

Bret should be higher for sure. I honestly think Vince should be 3 or 4. Austin vs McMahon was the biggest thing from the era.

Coach Smiley wrote:I'd give honourable mentions to some of the mid-card acts, Godfather, Crash Holly, Val Venis, D-Lo, Al Snow, 2 Cool, some of these acts were getting amazing reactions exceeding the main eventers of today, what a time it was

They shoulda done more than 20. Weird number considering usually they go 50.

I have a problem with the list:

1.) The Big Show shouldn't be on the list

2.) Triple H is way to high

3.) The Top three should be something like this:
1. Stone Cold Steve Austin
2. The Rock
3. HBK

4.) IMO Undertaker is to low he should be rank either #4, or #5

5.) Undertaker & Vince McMahon should be higher than Triple H IMO.

6.) Bret should be higher.

That is pretty much it...

Coach Smiley wrote:I'd give honourable mentions to some of the mid-card acts, Godfather, Crash Holly, Val Venis, D-Lo, Al Snow, 2 Cool, some of these acts were getting amazing reactions exceeding the main eventers of today, what a time it was

Also, when do you guys think the attitude era actually started? You could see the seeds in acts like Goldust, "Austin 3:16" promo, "Pillman's got a gun!", the Bret Hart **** promo, DX, but my vote goes to WrestleMania 14 as the date the Attitude Era was officially born

Godfather, Val and D-Lo for sure. The pimp, the pornstar and the man with the chest protector. I loved it.

Celtics_Champs wrote:

Coach Smiley wrote:I'd give honourable mentions to some of the mid-card acts, Godfather, Crash Holly, Val Venis, D-Lo, Al Snow, 2 Cool, some of these acts were getting amazing reactions exceeding the main eventers of today, what a time it was

They shoulda done more than 20. Weird number considering usually they go 50.

Prob cause they couldn't name 50.

As for people who think Triple H is ranked too high. Top 3 is prob too high for him, but he should be around the top 5. DX with HBK and the second coming were huge for that era. Whether it was driving the tank to the WCW event, or impersonations of the Nation. He was a big part of it.

Coach Smiley wrote:I'd give honourable mentions to some of the mid-card acts, Godfather, Crash Holly, Val Venis, D-Lo, Al Snow, 2 Cool, some of these acts were getting amazing reactions exceeding the main eventers of today, what a time it was

Also, when do you guys think the attitude era actually started? You could see the seeds in acts like Goldust, "Austin 3:16" promo, "Pillman's got a gun!", the Bret Hart **** promo, DX, but my vote goes to WrestleMania 14 as the date the Attitude Era was officially born

Totally agree with you. Hell, some of those mid-carders were more over than guys on this list.

From the look of it, this list is so WWE can shove all the TNA guys (and Bret Hart) at the back, right behind Stephanie and Big Show who really weren't all that important at all at the end of the day, and then actually try to create a top 11 list from there.

I've mentioned this before but to me, the Attitude Era started one year before during the Austin/Hart I Quit match. Vince's reaction after the match is almost ridiculous and so hard to believe when you consider the type of matches he rolled out there for the next decade.

So I watched the attitude era documentary last night, much like the nwo one it's only an hour and pretty much a letdown, but I find it interesting they never mention the influence of ECW. On the plus side Mark Henry's interviews are fairly hilarious throughout lol

yea, i was disappointed by both the documentaries, both couldve been longer and gone more into detail in everything.

the kevin nash interviews for the nwo sucked, almost as if he wanted nothing to do w/it

also the interviews from the rock and stone cold were just snippets from their documentaries

studcrackers wrote:yea, i was disappointed by both the documentaries, both couldve been longer and gone more into detail in everything.

the kevin nash interviews for the nwo sucked, almost as if he wanted nothing to do w/it

also the interviews from the rock and stone cold were just snippets from their documentaries

I haven't watched this yet, but I assume it's because the dvd seems to have been made to point out how the nWo was essentially what killed their company, and Nash being the arrogant ego-maniac that he is wants to distance himself from it, as if he wasn't literally one of the main people to blame for it all.

Yeah I was very disappointed with the attitude era documentary myself.

It was very very brief, I felt that both the Stone Cold and Rock docu's covered it better. It was basically "WWE was suffering, they changed their style, and these are the dudes and characters that were involved". It would have been great to have more story and information.

I mean things like they skipped the whole WWE buying WCW, except for "WWE bought WCW and ECW". I mean they could have covered the whole invasion story, how that has influenced modern day WWE (with the belts) and even just some of the business side of things (how the stars felt about it and what not).

I'd have loved to have seen some stuff about the feuds during this era and what not. I have a really hazy memory of it all (I basically only ever watched attitude, until I came back to watching WWE about 2 years ago) and can't remember how the orders of feuds went.

damo[23] wrote:Yeah I was very disappointed with the attitude era documentary myself.

It was very very brief, I felt that both the Stone Cold and Rock docu's covered it better. It was basically "WWE was suffering, they changed their style, and these are the dudes and characters that were involved". It would have been great to have more story and information.

I mean things like they skipped the whole WWE buying WCW, except for "WWE bought WCW and ECW". I mean they could have covered the whole invasion story, how that has influenced modern day WWE (with the belts) and even just some of the business side of things (how the stars felt about it and what not).

I'd have loved to have seen some stuff about the feuds during this era and what not. I have a really hazy memory of it all (I basically only ever watched attitude, until I came back to watching WWE about 2 years ago) and can't remember how the orders of feuds went.

Well they won't cover everything in 1 documentary like they should. Then how would they keep putting out half assed documentaries that only cover a portion of a story so that people will continue to buy them? I mean, seriously, they have put out MULTIPLE documentaries of Stone Cold, The Rock, Undertaker, Shawn Michaels, DX, Rey Mysterio, John Cena, etc. They're never going to fully tell the tale of anything in 1 documentary. Just wouldn't be good for business.

Dunthreevy wrote:Well they won't cover everything in 1 documentary like they should. Then how would they keep putting out half assed documentaries that only cover a portion of a story so that people will continue to buy them? I mean, seriously, they have put out MULTIPLE documentaries of Stone Cold, The Rock, Undertaker, Shawn Michaels, DX, Rey Mysterio, John Cena, etc. They're never going to fully tell the tale of anything in 1 documentary. Just wouldn't be good for business.

Yes, to an extent. This docu was very short, I mean it basically gave the reason for the attitude era and then a flash of who and what happened, and barely.

The last Stone Cold docu, as well as the Rock and Edge's (3 of the more recent ones) were hugely in depth and gave a really great "from start to finish" story.

My point was from a consumer perspective, I bought the product off the strength of the last few I have bought/seen (amongst others) on a period of the WWE I am fond of, and was let down by the product which was flimsy and by no means a robust acount.

I didn't expect for one minute to have a full coverage of the period (unless over 2 or dvds maybe) but still there were some important parts that were completely glossed over. Like I mention, something like the merge with WWE and WCW/ECW was quite big, yet this was, near verbatim, what the documentry said:

"and in X year, WWE aquired the WCW, all but putting an end to the attitude era and significantly increasing its roster".

No more than 2 lines.

This was repeated multiple times.

If they release a product that covers it, then great, more power to them, but it does not stop me being disappointed, or the fact that in comparison to their last releases its very weak.

And thats the bottom line ...

I was looking forward to the Attitude Era documentary, it's a shame to hear they made it the way they did, but it definitely is no surprise.