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Mick Foley & Sid Rip WWE

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 6:35 am
by Waylon Mercy
If this is a work bravo...but it looks completely heart felt to me.

"As I mentioned on Twitter, I've never felt so disgusted at the conclusion of a WWE (or any) PPV. Like many of you out there, I just don't get it. This Daniel Bryan thing is a phenomenon. You get it. I get it. The fans in Pittsburgh (yes, I was thinking of writing "RIGHT TH...but I'm just not in a cheap pop mood) got it. But tonight, for the first time, I had to admit to myself that the powers that be are just not going to get it. And that makes me sad. I'm just honestly sad, just flat out f------ng sad (yes, I dropped an F-bomb there to emphasize how F'ing sad I am for the guys who bust their butts night in and night out - Ziggler, Punk, Bryan, etc - with no hope of getting their shot at this year's Mania.

You know who else I'm sad for? Me. In my two years as an official WWE Ambassador, I never once had to lie about my enthusiasm for the company or the product. Now, although I am no longer officially an Ambassador for WWE (believe it or not, my only official role in WWE is as GM for Saturday Morning Slam, a contract that ends in one month) I was till looking forward to being part of the biggest event of the year. I'll probably end up going anyway. But I'm about 1/6th as excited about it as I was just a few hours ago. I wanted so badly to hear 75,000 WWE fans chanting "YES" - and seeing fans walk away absolutely ecstatic about the outcome of a PPV for the first time in a while...a long while. But when given the chance to make it happen (unless they've got something MAJOR up their sleeve) WWE's answer tonight was a resounding "NO, NO, NO"."

Note from Mike: Foley, who rarely curses, actually did drop the "F" bomb in his Facebook post. The editing above was by yours truly.


http://www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.php?id=83114

Re: Mick Foley & Sid Rip WWE

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:58 am
by Waylon Mercy
Didn't know this article was already posted in the Rumble thread. Changed it a bit to Ex WWE
talents that are also vocally frustrated with the current WWE product/politics...

Here is Sids take...

[tweet]https://twitter.com/SychoVicious/status/427667129945821184[/tweet]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/SychoVicious/status/427667085834326016[/tweet]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/SychoVicious/status/427651668608815104[/tweet]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/SychoVicious/status/427647264337952768[/tweet]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/SychoVicious/status/427645154179420160[/tweet]

Re: Mick Foley & Sid Rip WWE

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 8:24 am
by WashWiz54
I knew I owned a "Master and The Ruler of The World" Sid shirt for a reason as a kid :D

I can't add much other than that I agree completely with these guys. If things don't change or there isn't a major swerve here soon, I can't help but think WWE is heading down a road eerily similar to WCW. That is if a competitor arrives soon to take on their monopoly.

I won't sit here and be a IWC warrior claiming that I'm done, but I will admit I have caught myself reading results more and more recently versus watching. If things continue, the interest could completely fade like it did in the past.

Re: Mick Foley & Sid Rip WWE

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 9:34 am
by Waylon Mercy
[tweet]https://twitter.com/ShaneHelmsCom/status/427647196784517121[/tweet]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/TheREALRIKISHI/status/427681139063402497[/tweet]

Re: Mick Foley & Sid Rip WWE

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 2:42 pm
by Dunthreevy
When guys who have been in the business and been major stars in the business are so harshly critical of the product there's something to our complaints. Sid, Foley, Helms, Rikishi, etc. have nothing to gain from making their criticism so public and so harsh. In fact, they could actually be hurting their chances of getting Legends work in the future. Them doing so just further validates what we're all feeling and saying. Good for them for speaking up, but it's highly doubtful that it will make any impact with WWE brass.

Re: Mick Foley & Sid Rip WWE

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 2:48 pm
by whysoserious
Dunthreevy wrote:When guys who have been in the business and been major stars in the business are so harshly critical of the product there's something to our complaints. Sid, Foley, Helms, Rikishi, etc. have nothing to gain from making their criticism so public and so harsh. In fact, they could actually be hurting their chances of getting Legends work in the future. Them doing so just further validates what we're all feeling and saying. Good for them for speaking up, but it's highly doubtful that it will make any impact with WWE brass.


Glad to see these guys speak out but as you mentioned, the guys in charge, HHH and Vince don't really give a crap. They really never have when these guys speak out.

Despite my reservations with HHH taking over because of his past, I was willing to give him a chance. I was hopeful that being separated from the Kliq and growing up and maturing a bit under Vince that he'd get it. That he was a former wrestler and would get how to build some of the other guys up. Instead he's worse then Vince because he's following his model but also going down the path of building/protecting his old-timer buddies and only pushing certain guys.

I have no problem if he sees something more in Bray Wyatt or the Shield. All have potential, but there's no reason to be pushing Cena/Orton/Batista so much. These guys should all be used to help establish new stars and they're missing out.

Good luck to him cause he's alienating a huge portion of the WWE universe. They can shove the app down our throats all they want with all the positive message but it's not an open app that provides instant feedback and reaction. It's a controlled medium. It's the voting always works out the same way you'd expect. They have a plan, it just absolutely sucks ass.

Re: Mick Foley & Sid Rip WWE

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 6:19 pm
by Celtics_Champs
Funny that Rikishi's complaint were about the Usos. They're about to win the straps imo.

Re: Mick Foley & Sid Rip WWE

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:04 am
by kblo247
What's the uso complaint for? They just got over thanks to total divas to boot in recent months. They are clearly the ones beating the old vets


And as for foley it's a hypocrite at work. Where was he helping guys when he signed on to tna with creative control and put himself over people and on screen? Oh yeah we are going to forget that he didn't elevate anyone including Hunter until Vince told him, didn't ask him but told him and it's documented he was done as a full timer after that series because of his health, he wasn't noble in giving up any spotlight then. He just kept coming back for pay days like the same guys today.

Re: Mick Foley & Sid Rip WWE

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 6:54 pm
by Waylon Mercy
[tweet]https://twitter.com/SychoVicious/status/428600543314194432[/tweet]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/REALBully5150/status/428588960118763520[/tweet]

Re: Mick Foley & Sid Rip WWE

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:04 pm
by jr lucosa
Nice idea by Bully, I don't know if CM Punk has any interest in returning to TNA, but it would definitely give me a renewed interest in the company if they were able to bring him in.

Re: Mick Foley & Sid Rip WWE

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:18 pm
by skbucks1985
I think Punk has basically zero interest for a couple of reasons. One, when he was in TNA a decade ago he hated it and he's been very vocal about that. Secondly, if he left WWE while still under contract and then a few months later when his contract expired ended up in TNA I think it would really damage his relationship with WWE a few years down the line. With Angle, its been 8 years and so by now I think all's been forgotten. But if he left went to TNA and then a couple years later wanted to return I think his ability to do so would be harmed.

Re: Mick Foley & Sid Rip WWE

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:13 pm
by Waylon Mercy
Justin Credible wrote his column and hes had enough as well...

http://www.pwmania.com/the-justin-credi ... uls9PldV-Y

Hello everybody! Welcome back. What was supposed to be the kick-off to an exciting WrestleMania season turned sour. I went into Sunday excited to watch the Royal Rumble PPV. It’s one of the WWE’s biggest, and most important PPV’s of the year. I’m usually apprehensive about spending $60 on any pro wrestling PPV, but you can’t miss with the Royal Rumble right? Wrong!!

I can’t remember the last time I felt so let down by an event. I figured even if everything else bombs the Rumble match is always good, and we would figure out who was going to challenge for the WWE World title at WrestleMania 30. Well as most of you know it was not the epic event we were all expecting. I have no problem with Batista, but after one appearance on Raw the WWE hot shots him to Main Event Mania?

It obviously left most of the WWE Universe up in arms, and rightfully so. The match up of Randy Orton vs. Batista doesn’t entice me even a little bit. Now let’s talk about Daniel Bryan. He had a PPV saving performance against an unproven Bray Wyatt. Both men brought it Sunday night, and it was the only thing worth watching at the Rumble. I’m not surprised that Bryan wasn’t in the Rumble. I saw no indication that the WWE creative team was positioning him for a WWE title hunt. Well the fans certainly did, and they voiced their opinions. They more than voiced their opinions, they hijacked the PPV.

It’s been a long while since the WWE has put on a great PPV. I don’t know what’s the problem. They are heading into a milestone WrestleMania, and the launch of the WWE Network. I hope that this trend ends soon, but for now I’m not spending another dime on the product.

Re: Mick Foley & Sid Rip WWE

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:54 pm
by skbucks1985
I met Justin Credible at an airport a while ago and spoke to him for what had to be close to an hour. Super, super nice guy, kinda goes without saying because if he wasn't he wouldn't have spoken to me for an hour, but that article was a very tame version of what he told me. This article was his reaction to a specific incident but we spoke more about the philosophical creative direction of the product.

Re: Mick Foley & Sid Rip WWE

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 8:42 pm
by Dunthreevy
safi wrote:I met Justin Credible at an airport a while ago and spoke to him for what had to be close to an hour. Super, super nice guy, kinda goes without saying because if he wasn't he wouldn't have spoken to me for an hour, but that article was a very tame version of what he told me. This article was his reaction to a specific incident but we spoke more about the philosophical creative direction of the product.


That blows my mind, as does his recent turnaround in life, because he always came across as such an unlikable guy back in the day. At least that's how I felt.

Re: Mick Foley & Sid Rip WWE

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:45 pm
by skbucks1985
Dunthreevy wrote:
safi wrote:I met Justin Credible at an airport a while ago and spoke to him for what had to be close to an hour. Super, super nice guy, kinda goes without saying because if he wasn't he wouldn't have spoken to me for an hour, but that article was a very tame version of what he told me. This article was his reaction to a specific incident but we spoke more about the philosophical creative direction of the product.


That blows my mind, as does his recent turnaround in life, because he always came across as such an unlikable guy back in the day. At least that's how I felt.


I felt the same way but a lot of that was because his character came across as such a prick. No reason to believe he himself was actually like that. Although I could see how he could get heat when he was in WWE. He's clearly a guy with strong opinions and is unafraid to state them and if you're a top guy and do that, its fine. But if you're a mid-carder, there's probably less tolerance for it.

Re: Mick Foley & Sid Rip WWE

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:56 pm
by Dunthreevy
safi wrote:
Dunthreevy wrote:
safi wrote:I met Justin Credible at an airport a while ago and spoke to him for what had to be close to an hour. Super, super nice guy, kinda goes without saying because if he wasn't he wouldn't have spoken to me for an hour, but that article was a very tame version of what he told me. This article was his reaction to a specific incident but we spoke more about the philosophical creative direction of the product.


That blows my mind, as does his recent turnaround in life, because he always came across as such an unlikable guy back in the day. At least that's how I felt.


I felt the same way but a lot of that was because his character came across as such a prick. No reason to believe he himself was actually like that. Although I could see how he could get heat when he was in WWE. He's clearly a guy with strong opinions and is unafraid to state them and if you're a top guy and do that, its fine. But if you're a mid-carder, there's probably less tolerance for it.


He was just so good at playing the role of a prick that I didn't think there was any way it was just an act :lol:

Re: Mick Foley & Sid Rip WWE

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 2:47 pm
by Dunthreevy
Got word last night that Mick Foley is coming to Indianapolis on April 24th to perform at Crackers Comedy Club. Immediately bought tickets for my fiance and I. Hopefully he'll do a little meet and greet after the show.

Re: Mick Foley & Sid Rip WWE

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:07 pm
by studcrackers
I'm sure he will. When I worked with him, he signed for over 2 hours after the show, despite looking tired as hell about 20 minutes into it

Re: Mick Foley & Sid Rip WWE

Posted: Mon Feb 3, 2014 9:32 am
by NeedsMoreCheese
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSr-5yyywc8[/youtube]

Re: Mick Foley & Sid Rip WWE

Posted: Mon Feb 3, 2014 9:45 pm
by NeedsMoreCheese
and now comes the job offer
http://www.pwpix.net/pwpixnews/headlines/393468225.php


Thanks, everyone for the great feedback on my CM Punk video. This is the first video of this type that I have done in a long time, and from what I've read, you's like to see them more often. I've been asked by WWE to do a weekly RAW wrap-up show for the WWE website, but it's important to me that they understand that if I am going to do a show for them that it be my own perspective, and that it be honest. It's not in my nature to just go around bashing everything I see - which is why that tweet after the Rumble resonated so deeply with so many of you. So, if I do a show for them, it will likely be a lrgely positive show, but I won't hesitate to point out problems where I think they exist. If I end up doing the show on my own YouTube channel, you will know that we couldn't agree on either content, philosophy or money.

My main reason for doing the video is that I just wouldn't be able to write a piece on the Punk situation that would do him, or the scenarion justice. So we filmed it...and you liked it. Take a look at the painting behind my head in the video - it's a beautiful watercolor by Jill Thompson, the same wonderful artist who (in addition to illustrating two of my kids books and my son's book) did the work on that awesom CM Punk - WWE Universe shirt that has proven so popular.

That brings me to my final point. These days, I get bad headaches if I sit in front of a computer monitor for too long - the primary reason I gave my thoughts on Punk on video, instead of in a written piece. I have a limited daily window to work on a computer - maning I just don't have the chance to respond to many questions that I get here on Facebook. As many of my Twitter followers know, I do send out frequent DM's - so if you have a question, putting it on Twitter is the better way to go. Still, I'm not going to get to everyone....so try not to pitch a fit, (as a few of you do) with name-calling and that type of thing. Let's keep this page a dick-free zone!