WWE Raw Discussion I

Vandal Savage · Post #1521 » by **Vandal Savage** » Tue Mar 28, 2017 1:09 pm

They used ladders in two segments. So is it a ladder match now, cuz nothing was mentioned. My brain hurts.

Post #1522 » by **LittleOzzy** » Tue Mar 28, 2017 2:01 pm

Terrible RAW considering it's the one before Mania.

Rolling out the jobbers for the Battle Royal didn't help, haha. And still no idea what Joe's role will be at Mania.

Post #1523 » by **spykelee** » Tue Mar 28, 2017 2:27 pm

Agreed Oz. This show was pretty terrible all around. For the show before mania it stunk. This build, at least from the raw side has been abysmal. I can't recall a worse one in the last decade. Smackdown has been night and day to this trash

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Dunthreevy · Post #1524 » by **Dunthreevy** » Tue Mar 28, 2017 3:14 pm

That Undertaker bit at the end was so corny. It was embarrassingly lame. Hopefully, Reigns retires him this Sunday. Taker hanging up the boots is way past due.

Flames24Rulz · Post #1525 » by **Flames24Rulz** » Tue Mar 28, 2017 3:22 pm

There was a fan video of Taker coming out from under the ring and entering the ring when the lights went off. He looked like hell just trying to do that.

I'm hoping Reigns ends his career too, but I'm guessing they're going to save that for Cena next year even though the guy can barely walk as it stands right now.

Post #1526 » by **LittleOzzy** » Tue Mar 28, 2017 3:26 pm

spykelee wrote:Agreed Oz. This show was pretty terrible all around. For the show before mania it stunk. This build, at least from the raw side has been abysmal. I can't recall a worse one in the last decade. Smackdown has been night and day to this trash

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Agree 100%

Other than the Owens/Jericho match on the RAW side, Smackdown has done a much better job over the last few months selling their feuds.

improper · Post #1527 » by **improper** » Tue Mar 28, 2017 7:27 pm

Dunthreevy wrote:That Undertaker bit at the end was so corny. It was embarrassingly lame. Hopefully, Reigns retires him this Sunday. Taker hanging up the boots is way past due.

Just sucks it'd be Reigns retiring him.

whysoserious · Post #1528 » by **whysoserious** » Tue Mar 28, 2017 8:00 pm

improper wrote:
Dunthreevy wrote:That Undertaker bit at the end was so corny. It was embarrassingly lame. Hopefully, Reigns retires him this Sunday. Taker hanging up the boots is way past due.

Just sucks it'd be Reigns retiring him.

Should have been Finn Balor with his gimmick.

improper · Post #1529 » by **improper** » Tue Mar 28, 2017 8:14 pm

whysoserious wrote:
improper wrote:
Dunthreevy wrote:That Undertaker bit at the end was so corny. It was embarrassingly lame. Hopefully, Reigns retires him this Sunday. Taker hanging up the boots is way past due.

Just sucks it'd be Reigns retiring him.

Should have been Finn Balor with his gimmick.

Or Wyatt like three years ago.

Post #1530 » by **LittleOzzy** » Tue Mar 28, 2017 10:56 pm

improper wrote:
whysoserious wrote:
improper wrote:
Just sucks it'd be Reigns retiring him.

Should have been Finn Balor with his gimmick.

Or Wyatt like three years ago.

Wyatt would have been perfect, he'd be a mega superstar by now.

improper · Post #1531 » by **improper** » Tue Mar 28, 2017 11:11 pm

LittleOzzy wrote:Wyatt would have been perfect, he'd be a mega superstar by now.

They really dropped the ball with him between feeding him to Cena, letting the Undertaker beat him instead of pass the torch to him, and then feeding him to Reigns. I know he's the champ now, but as you said, he could be one of the top guys in the company right now instead of just another guy. Maybe he'll still get there, but they had so many opportunities and just didn't pull the trigger.

I feel the same way about Ambrose, and I don't even like Ambrose. He was hot fire coming out of the Shield breakup, and he pretty much stayed the top face in the company (based on crowd response) for like a year. They could have put the belt on him and pushed him to the moon at basically any point in that year and the crowd would have ate it up. Instead, they waited until he had started to cool down and people had started to notice how lazy he'd gotten in the ring before putting the belt on him, then quickly passing it to Styles (which, to be fair, was the right call). If they hadn't been so focused with jamming Reigns down our throats, they could have turned Ambrose into a superstar.

They had a similar shot with Rollins when he came back from injury. He attacked Reigns at the PPV, which the crowd loved, and they were so ready to embrace him as the top face the next night on Raw. So what does Vince do? He keeps Rollins a heel, because god forbid anyone should be the top face over Roman. Then they waited until all of Rollins' momentum coming back from his injury was squandered before turning him face. That was like six months ago, and Rollins is just now recovering from it.

I guess the point here is that the WWE sucks.

Max Green · Post #1532 » by **Max Green** » Wed Mar 29, 2017 3:09 pm

I don't enjoy Raw anymore. I fast-forward through 80% of it. I did like the Trips/Rollins promo and the KO/Jericho/Sami/Joe stuff, other than that, bleh.

Wo1verine · Post #1533 » by **Wo1verine** » Wed Mar 29, 2017 5:36 pm

Raw needs Vince to comeback full-time.

Post #1534 » by **LittleOzzy** » Wed Mar 29, 2017 7:14 pm

Wo1verine wrote:Raw needs Vince to comeback full-time.

Sadly, I think he's past it.

His on screen work before the draft was pretty awful.

improper · Post #1535 » by **improper** » Wed Mar 29, 2017 7:30 pm

Wo1verine wrote:Raw needs Vince to comeback full-time.

Raw's main problem is that Vince is full time in the back.

Wo1verine · Post #1536 » by **Wo1verine** » Wed Mar 29, 2017 7:32 pm

improper wrote:
Wo1verine wrote:Raw needs Vince to comeback full-time.

Raw's main problem is that Vince is full time in the back.

I mean for his promos. I always thought he was entertaining anyways.

2009NBAChamps · Post #1537 » by **2009NBAChamps** » Wed Mar 29, 2017 7:42 pm

Don't think his character would be the same anymore either.

Although I'd much prefer the "Mr. McMahon" character as a part-timer over some of the others we've had.

iMoreland · Post #1538 » by **iMoreland** » Wed Mar 29, 2017 7:51 pm

Well Vince got Roman over as a face in Philly last year so I think his character still works fine

improper · Post #1539 » by **improper** » Wed Mar 29, 2017 8:08 pm

2009NBAChamps wrote:Don't think his character would be the same anymore either.

Although I'd much prefer the "Mr. McMahon" character as a part-timer over some of the others we've had.

Personally, I don't think they need to add Vince so much as they need to just subtract Steph. Get rid of her and just put a GM in power, like Angle.

Wo1verine · Post #1540 » by **Wo1verine** » Wed Mar 29, 2017 8:17 pm

improper wrote:
2009NBAChamps wrote:Don't think his character would be the same anymore either.

Although I'd much prefer the "Mr. McMahon" character as a part-timer over some of the others we've had.

Personally, I don't think they need to add Vince so much as they need to just subtract Steph. Get rid of her and just put a GM in power, like Angle.

I've read rumours about Angle being the next GM, would be interesting!

Would be an instant fan favourite, i think!