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Brock Lesnar vs. Goldberg


Team Raw vs. Team SmackDown LIVE in a 5-on-5 Traditional Survivor Series Men’s Elimination Match


Team Raw vs. Team SmackDown LIVE in a 5-on-5 Traditional Survivor Series Women’s Elimination Match


Team Raw vs. Team SmackDown LIVE in a 10-on-10 Traditional Survivor Series Tag Team Elimination Match


Intercontinental Champion The Miz vs. Sami Zayn


WWE Cruiserweight Champion The Brian Kendrick vs. Kalisto (If Kalisto wins, SmackDown LIVE gets the entire Cruiserweight division)

Predictions??

'fantasy warfare just got real' is in the top 5 of the worst wwe slogans of all time

wait is the cw thing for real. please let that happen, i mean it would be tight for time but seriously its an unmitigated disaster on raw, in fact it would be to raws benefit really

1) Survivor Series Elimination Match (Tag Teams): Team Raw (Cesaro and Sheamus, Enzo and Cass, Gallows and Anderson, The New Day, and The Shining Stars) vs. Team SmackDown (American Alpha, Breezango, Heath Slater and Rhyno, The Hype Bros, and The Uso's)

2) WWE Cruiserweight Championship: Brian Kendrick (c) vs. Kalisto

3) Survivor Series Elimination Match (Women): Team Raw (Alicia Fox, Bayley, Charlotte Flair, Nia Jax, and Sasha Banks) vs. Team SmackDown (Alexa Bliss, Becky Lynch, Carmella, Naomi, and Nikki Bella)

4) WWE Intercontinental Championship: The Miz (c) w/ Maryse vs. Sami Zayn

5) Survivor Series Elimination Match (Men): Team Raw (Braun Strowman, Chris Jericho, Kevin Owens, Roman Reigns, and Seth Rollins) vs. Team SmackDown (AJ Styles, Bray Wyatt, Dean Ambrose, Randy Orton, and Shane McMahon)

6) Brock Lesnar w/ Paul Heyman vs. Goldberg - No winner. Samoa Joe interferes and destroys them both.

You guys are forgetting about this 205 Live show that starts premiering LIVE on TUESDAY, November 29th (after Survivor Series). That's how they make room for it on "Smackdown". I'd bet money they make room for it on the show by moving the IC title over to RAW (via a Sami Zayn win), and then giving the Cruiserweights the time they usually have allotted for the IC title storylines. Logistically it makes sense because they can have all the Cruiserweights travel with the Smackdown crew to be on both Smackdown and 205 Live, which will take place in the same arena they're having Smackdown in that night.

Still waiting for a reason to care about the three Survivor Series matches.

Surely they're going to add stakes of some kind.

Rhettmatic wrote:Still waiting for a reason to care about the three Survivor Series matches.

Surely they're going to add stakes of some kind.

Especially since there's an odd number of inter-show matches so one side's going to be "victorious". With Bryan and Shane on Raw this Monday hopefully that's something they announce there

Dunthreevy wrote:You guys are forgetting about this 205 Live show that starts premiering LIVE on TUESDAY, November 29th (after Survivor Series). That's how they make room for it on "Smackdown". I'd bet money they make room for it on the show by moving the IC title over to RAW (via a Sami Zayn win), and then giving the Cruiserweights the time they usually have allotted for the IC title storylines. Logistically it makes sense because they can have all the Cruiserweights travel with the Smackdown crew to be on both Smackdown and 205 Live, which will take place in the same arena they're having Smackdown in that night.

Exactly what I was thinking. The Cruiserweights can be given minimal time on Smackdown, knowing they have a whole show after to continue their story lines.

It make sense to have the Intercontinental belt on RAW as the three hours can be better filled with a more important belt.

Rhettmatic wrote:Still waiting for a reason to care about the three Survivor Series matches.

Surely they're going to add stakes of some kind.

I know it won't happen but it would be very interesting if they did all the matches the way they're doing the Cruiserweight title match. Whoever wins the match gets that title/division on their show. It would take unifying the World/Universal titles and the Tag & Women's titles but I'm not entirely opposed to that. So you'd essentially have

RAW
World/Universal Title (unify it and call it the Galactic Championship or some trash)
IC Title
US Title

Smackdown
Tag Titles
Women's Title
Cruiserweight Title

It might be unrealistic to have all the guys vying for the World and Universal title all on one show but it give them no shortage of storyline options and enough match options to keep things from staying so repetitive. The women need to all be on one show. There's not a large enough roster of women to have them split, so everything is super repetitive on RAW and Smackdown with the women right now.

I probably don't actually like this idea, but it's one direction they could go in fantasy booking land.

Dunthreevy wrote:

Rhettmatic wrote:Still waiting for a reason to care about the three Survivor Series matches.

Surely they're going to add stakes of some kind.

I know it won't happen but it would be very interesting if they did all the matches the way they're doing the Cruiserweight title match. Whoever wins the match gets that title/division on their show. It would take unifying the World/Universal titles and the Tag & Women's titles but I'm not entirely opposed to that. So you'd essentially have

RAW
World/Universal Title (unify it and call it the Galactic Championship or some trash)
IC Title
US Title

Smackdown
Tag Titles
Women's Title
Cruiserweight Title

It might be unrealistic to have all the guys vying for the World and Universal title all on one show but it give them no shortage of storyline options and enough match options to keep things from staying so repetitive. The women need to all be on one show. There's not a large enough roster of women to have them split, so everything is super repetitive on RAW and Smackdown with the women right now.

I probably don't actually like this idea, but it's one direction they could go in fantasy booking land.

I appreciate the outside the box thinking and I don't hate it. I've always been a proponent of trying to make the shows feel as different as possible. And different commentary styles, different camera angles and a different style of story telling are things that combined can make shows feel sufficiently different. But this would leave zero doubt in anyone's mind how different the shows are.

Anyone else going to this?

On the latest JR report, he fantasy booked the Survivor Series match between Goldberg and Lesnar. He had them both beating the crap out of one another in a real physical match when a guy storms into the ring. He's got a hooded sweatshirt on so you can't see his face, and he ends up destroying both Brock and Goldberg. Then he pulls down the hood and it's Samoa Joe, setting up a Brock/Joe match for Wrestlemania.

This perfect booking for the Brock/Goldberg match. It makes Goldberg and Lesnar both look strong (since Joe only beats them up after they've already had a real physical match). More importantly, it eliminates the whole question of who wins the Brock/Goldberg match. Everyone knows there's no way Brock can lose to a old one-time wrestler, but it seems hard to believe that Goldberg would come back for one more match just to lose. This way neither of them have to put over the other.

Joe is one of the few guys in the company who is physically imposing enough to pull this off and have it seem realistic. He's bound to debut sooner or later. The only thing I don't really like about it is Joe being in a hoodie. How is he supposed to keep the hood on while beating up two guys? Other than that, I don't think there's a better way to introduce a new megastar to the roster.

iMoreland wrote:On the latest JR report, he fantasy booked the Survivor Series match between Goldberg and Lesnar. He had them both beating the crap out of one another in a real physical match when a guy storms into the ring. He's got a hooded sweatshirt on so you can't see his face, and he ends up destroying both Brock and Goldberg. Then he pulls down the hood and it's Samoa Joe, setting up a Brock/Joe match for Wrestlemania.

This perfect booking for the Brock/Goldberg match. It makes Goldberg and Lesnar both look strong (since Joe only beats them up after they've already had a real physical match). More importantly, it eliminates the whole question of who wins the Brock/Goldberg match. Everyone knows there's no way Brock can lose to a old one-time wrestler, but it seems hard to believe that Goldberg would come back for one more match just to lose. This way neither of them have to put over the other.

Joe is one of the few guys in the company who is physically imposing enough to pull this off and have it seem realistic. He's bound to debut sooner or later. The only thing I don't really like about it is Joe being in a hoodie. How is he supposed to keep the hood on while beating up two guys? Other than that, I don't think there's a better way to introduce a new megastar to the roster.

That assumes they wanna strap a rocket to Joe...and it's a long way from SS17 to the next Mania.

Maybe after Survivor Series Joe becomes the "hottest free agent" where he's wined and dined for all of December on Raw & Smackdown...Steph & Foley trying to get his signature before Shane & Bryan

Ideally he wouldn't reveal which brand he's on until after he loses to Lesnar at Mania...because Joe should be on Smackdown! And we can't have Lesnar on SD

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Pharaoh wrote:

iMoreland wrote:On the latest JR report, he fantasy booked the Survivor Series match between Goldberg and Lesnar. He had them both beating the crap out of one another in a real physical match when a guy storms into the ring. He's got a hooded sweatshirt on so you can't see his face, and he ends up destroying both Brock and Goldberg. Then he pulls down the hood and it's Samoa Joe, setting up a Brock/Joe match for Wrestlemania.

This perfect booking for the Brock/Goldberg match. It makes Goldberg and Lesnar both look strong (since Joe only beats them up after they've already had a real physical match). More importantly, it eliminates the whole question of who wins the Brock/Goldberg match. Everyone knows there's no way Brock can lose to a old one-time wrestler, but it seems hard to believe that Goldberg would come back for one more match just to lose. This way neither of them have to put over the other.

Joe is one of the few guys in the company who is physically imposing enough to pull this off and have it seem realistic. He's bound to debut sooner or later. The only thing I don't really like about it is Joe being in a hoodie. How is he supposed to keep the hood on while beating up two guys? Other than that, I don't think there's a better way to introduce a new megastar to the roster.

That assumes they wanna strap a rocket to Joe...and it's a long way from SS17 to the next Mania.

Maybe after Survivor Series Joe becomes the "hottest free agent" where he's wined and dined for all of December on Raw & Smackdown...Steph & Foley trying to get his signature before Shane & Bryan

Ideally he wouldn't reveal which brand he's on until after he loses to Lesnar at Mania...because Joe should be on Smackdown! And we can't have Lesnar on SD

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Why should Joe be on SmackDown?

RAW is the show that is in more need of some freshness.

Anyone think Goldberg will win?

This event is sold out obviously but I'm looking to grab off scalpers how much do you think they'll be charging for non
nose bleed seats?

I wonder if they'll do a screw job because it's in Canada and if so who gets screwed?

Does Taker show up? He said Wrestlemania won't define him anymore and Survivor Series is deeply rooted with him..

Will HHH show up and get involved since he hasn't been seen since he helped Owens?

Also completely sucks that Ziggler isn't facing Zayn that would have tore the house down. Hopefully him and Rusev
are involved in the show strange for them not to be apart of it yet.

iMoreland wrote:On the latest JR report, he fantasy booked the Survivor Series match between Goldberg and Lesnar. He had them both beating the crap out of one another in a real physical match when a guy storms into the ring. He's got a hooded sweatshirt on so you can't see his face, and he ends up destroying both Brock and Goldberg. Then he pulls down the hood and it's Samoa Joe, setting up a Brock/Joe match for Wrestlemania.

This perfect booking for the Brock/Goldberg match. It makes Goldberg and Lesnar both look strong (since Joe only beats them up after they've already had a real physical match). More importantly, it eliminates the whole question of who wins the Brock/Goldberg match. Everyone knows there's no way Brock can lose to a old one-time wrestler, but it seems hard to believe that Goldberg would come back for one more match just to lose. This way neither of them have to put over the other.

Joe is one of the few guys in the company who is physically imposing enough to pull this off and have it seem realistic. He's bound to debut sooner or later. The only thing I don't really like about it is Joe being in a hoodie. How is he supposed to keep the hood on while beating up two guys? Other than that, I don't think there's a better way to introduce a new megastar to the roster.

Yeah, that would actually be pretty cool.
Another scenario i read was that Shane would interfere and have Goldberg win stetting up his WM match with Lesnar.

Goldberg wins his last match in front of his kid and goes into the HOF on a winning note. And likely is guy who makes regular appearances for the company down the road when rating are needed.

Call me old school regarding Survivor Series but I'm looking forward to this I'm glad that WWE is doing the classic traditional elimination tag matches for this year Survivor Series I always enjoyed those. The only complaint I have is some of the classic traditional elimination tag matches I wish they put a stipulation some sort to make it more meaningful especially since the brand split when you have RAW vs Smackdown traditional elimination match make a stipulation to it. They only have one match with the stipulation and that is the Cruiserweight Title match, and the other complaint is I am so not looking forward to the Brock vs Goldberg match at all that might be worse than their first counter which might be tough to top that.

Latrell wrote:

Pharaoh wrote:

iMoreland wrote:On the latest JR report, he fantasy booked the Survivor Series match between Goldberg and Lesnar. He had them both beating the crap out of one another in a real physical match when a guy storms into the ring. He's got a hooded sweatshirt on so you can't see his face, and he ends up destroying both Brock and Goldberg. Then he pulls down the hood and it's Samoa Joe, setting up a Brock/Joe match for Wrestlemania.

This perfect booking for the Brock/Goldberg match. It makes Goldberg and Lesnar both look strong (since Joe only beats them up after they've already had a real physical match). More importantly, it eliminates the whole question of who wins the Brock/Goldberg match. Everyone knows there's no way Brock can lose to a old one-time wrestler, but it seems hard to believe that Goldberg would come back for one more match just to lose. This way neither of them have to put over the other.

Joe is one of the few guys in the company who is physically imposing enough to pull this off and have it seem realistic. He's bound to debut sooner or later. The only thing I don't really like about it is Joe being in a hoodie. How is he supposed to keep the hood on while beating up two guys? Other than that, I don't think there's a better way to introduce a new megastar to the roster.

That assumes they wanna strap a rocket to Joe...and it's a long way from SS17 to the next Mania.

Maybe after Survivor Series Joe becomes the "hottest free agent" where he's wined and dined for all of December on Raw & Smackdown...Steph & Foley trying to get his signature before Shane & Bryan

Ideally he wouldn't reveal which brand he's on until after he loses to Lesnar at Mania...because Joe should be on Smackdown! And we can't have Lesnar on SD

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Why should Joe be on SmackDown?

RAW is the show that is in more need of some freshness.

AJ & Joe would put on classic matches...Miz v Joe, Ziggler v Joe, Ambrose v Joe...

Or put Joe on Raw & Naka on SD so his promos are taped

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Pharaoh wrote:

Latrell wrote:

Pharaoh wrote:That assumes they wanna strap a rocket to Joe...and it's a long way from SS17 to the next Mania.

Maybe after Survivor Series Joe becomes the "hottest free agent" where he's wined and dined for all of December on Raw & Smackdown...Steph & Foley trying to get his signature before Shane & Bryan

Ideally he wouldn't reveal which brand he's on until after he loses to Lesnar at Mania...because Joe should be on Smackdown! And we can't have Lesnar on SD

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Why should Joe be on SmackDown?

RAW is the show that is in more need of some freshness.

AJ & Joe would put on classic matches...Miz v Joe, Ziggler v Joe, Ambrose v Joe...

Or put Joe on Raw & Naka on SD so his promos are taped

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Not sure if you've missed the memo or not but Smackdown is live now.