WWE Raw Discussion II

Post #1961 » by **Stanford** » Tue Jan 8, 2019 10:03 pm

OH, that's it!

I knew it had to be something.

I'm learning so much about how all these women are getting booked.

LLJ · Post #1962 » by **LLJ** » Tue Jan 8, 2019 10:15 pm

2.3m for the 3 hour average last night. The ratings slump continues even with Cena, Hogan, Brock on the program.

improper · Post #1963 » by **improper** » Wed Jan 9, 2019 12:29 am

LLJ wrote:2.3m for the 3 hour average last night. The ratings slump continues even with Cena, Hogan, Brock on the program.

The problem is that you can't run the show into the ground for an entire year and then expect everyone to come back simply because they said they were going to do better. They've had years to do better and they have never cared enough to improve the show with any kind of consistency.

iMoreland · Post #1964 » by **iMoreland** » Tue Jan 15, 2019 1:13 am

That whole first segment was really good between Baron/Braun/Elias/Singh Bro/Vince, whoever wrote it should write more segments.

Is Braun still not cleared?

tugs · Post #1965 » by **tugs** » Tue Jan 15, 2019 1:57 am

So that's how EC3 debuts?

tugs · Post #1966 » by **tugs** » Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:27 am

I love the Jinder-Balor match. Finn's gonna be too tired and lose the Fatal Four Way without him looking weak and he goes on a chase. Hopefully Drew wins this now, it's too obvious but exciting.

Cena doesn't need it.
Jinder is a filler.
Balor competing <100%.
Corbin, I mean c'mon.

Drew time!!!

iMoreland · Post #1967 » by **iMoreland** » Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:16 am

Fun triple threat, Lashley needed a big win.

Also, Lashley took this man out:

Read on Twitter

bestnamezRtaken · Post #1968 » by **bestnamezRtaken** » Tue Jan 15, 2019 4:14 am

A pretty good Raw this week. I was liking the back and forth between Sasha and Ronda. Some good bits from Sasha. Turn that woman heel.

Tho it still looks like Ronda is starting sh*t with so of the 4HW. I can see the build.

Happy to see Lashley win the title, great win for him. Rollins and Ambrose can keep feuding without the title.

Great Jinder v Finn match.

Great win by Bálor in the fatal 4way.

I was entertained.

tugs · Post #1969 » by **tugs** » Tue Jan 15, 2019 4:15 am

I was hoping for Drew though

Man, Vince pushing Balor e? Starting with that segment, the doubt, then the W.

iMoreland · Post #1970 » by **iMoreland** » Tue Jan 15, 2019 4:20 am

Finnally

tugs · Post #1971 » by **tugs** » Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:35 am

What was the point of the Alexa topless segment though?

Spens1 · Post #1972 » by **Spens1** » Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:28 am

technically, this could actually help Braun to an extent because him getting robbed will mean he ain't losing to Lesnar at the rumble (he had no business losing to Lesnar in all their previous matches anyway, get Lesnar away from the title, have him do anything else, just have the Universal title be on raw for once) and they had Braun doing Braun things, which is good, cause that's what got him over in the first place.

They should do Demon Balor vs Lesnar at the Rumble, kayfabe wise he should be able to beat Lesnar (in theory). Then what they do after that should be interesting (I know they want to put Seth in, but honestly, neither him nor Ambrose should be rewarded for that horrible program).

iMoreland · Post #1973 » by **iMoreland** » Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:18 am

Per WON, Brock requested to work with Finn and has been requesting it for over a year

tugs · Post #1974 » by **tugs** » Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:23 am

Whoa that's interesting.

Demon Balor, please. It won't be impossible for Balor to win. It'll be similar to how Goldberg won, using sudden bursts of offense. Combined with the demon's mysticism and its effect on Balor's offense going to another level, it's realistic for Brock to be caught off guard again and lose.

daoneandonly · Post #1975 » by **daoneandonly** » Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:27 pm

Man, how did WWE botch Braun so badly? The guy was becoming beyond over, now he's an afterthought.

Post #1976 » by **Stanford** » Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:02 pm

daoneandonly wrote:Man, how did WWE botch Braun so badly? The guy was becoming beyond over, now he's an afterthought.

I get it. It's difficult to pull the trigger on a huge main event push for a guy who can't stay healthy. You can just tell by looking at him walk that his knees are messed up, possibly for good.

tugs · Post #1977 » by **tugs** » Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:07 pm

Re-watched Brock matches with Punk, Styles, and Bryan. Wanted to get a glimpse on his match with Balor. I'd rank it as:

1. Punk
2. Bryan
3. Styles

Styles match started off with Brock dominating, similar to Bryan's. Lots of punishing suplexes. The difference was Bryan's psychology during the match. Lots of mind games and taunting. Both attacked Brock's knee as strategy. Styles had more high spots while DB's had stiffer shots, which I liked better.

The ending to AJ's was great with Brock catching him while doing his Phenomenal Forearm to an F5. The ending with DB was a bit weak for me. He was trying for a triangle of sorts submission and Brock just picked him up for an F5.

Now Punk's. Man, he was gonna beat Brock if not for Heyman run-ins. His match started with Punk on offense and transitioned well to back and forth from both. Ending saw Brock had to use multiple chair shots and an F5 to a chair to finish Punk. Great match with Punk having a variety of offense. Brock also had some nice moves there.

I bet the match with Balor with be similar to AJ's. Both high flyers and uptempo. How it'll be different is what I'm excited about.

WRau1 · Post #1978 » by **WRau1** » Tue Jan 15, 2019 4:42 pm

If it is (and most likely will be) Demon Balor, I'm guessing we'll see him get in a lot more offense than the above three mentioned guys did. The WWE is going to have to play the Demon thing up pretty hard to believe that Balor has any chance vs Lesnar, IMO.

bestnamezRtaken · Post #1979 » by **bestnamezRtaken** » Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:52 pm

Demon Balor is undefeated on the main roster, yeah? I think the only one that has beaten him was Owens in NXT? Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Spens1 · Post #1980 » by **Spens1** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:19 am

iMoreland wrote:Per WON, Brock requested to work with Finn and has been requesting it for over a year

Meltzer and Alvarez also talked about not wanting to cool down Braun further, because he already lost at Crown Jewel and the actual injury has cooled him down a lot, so i think they want to rebuild his value somewhat. Also the 5 minute squash was meant to be viewed as a screwjob (makes sense but the execution was so poor it looked like a squash).

Also sounds like Lesnar is going over at the Rumble, so probably getting no Demon Balor at the Rumble.