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Looks like Rusev isn't leaving. It appears this is him working everybody on social media again.
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LLJ wrote:Looks like Rusev isn't leaving. It appears this is him working everybody on social media again.
he's like Ziggler or something (minus the whinging that Ziggler does).
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I do think Rusev is a goner as soon as his contract is up. Think he could make a ton more money elsewhere and be utilized better as well.
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improper wrote:I do think Rusev is a goner as soon as his contract is up. Think he could make a ton more money elsewhere and be utilized better as well.
he absolutely could, WWE offers security though, even if their booking and talent management is the worst in wrestling.
He however should leave though since he'd make it big outside (Ryback i think has struggled cause he's an idiot, otherwise i'm sure he'd have done well, no real busts outside of them).
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Handsome Rusev is more catchy.
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tugs wrote:Handsome Rusev is more catchy.
Yeah, that was another gimmick that probably would have bombed on most guys that Rusev made work. All the more reason why I can't fathom why WWE won't push the guy. He's very clearly a star and, if WWE doesn't utilize him, he's going to go somewhere else and make them a bunch of money.
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I really think Reigns will win the Universal title on Friday.
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Ayatollah wrote:I really think Reigns will win the Universal title on Friday.
If so, it's incredibly sad that they waffled on putting the belt on him at 'Mania because they knew the crowd would crap all over it, only to do it in a country where they're pretty sure he'll get cheered, but that they probably won't visit again for years and that is so behind on social issues that women aren't even allowed to perform there.
I mean, they do realize he has to be champ in America most of the time, right? He might get that one moment where the crowd cheers for him, but he's coming right back home where the crowd will dump on him every week.
Just move on and put the title on someone who doesn't suck. We've wasted four damn years on the Roman Reigns experiment now and it's failed every damn year. The entire WWE product has suffered for those four years because everything has been all about eventually getting Roman over. It's absurd that a company that has live crowds for every event would hitch their entire future on a guy that live crowds boo relentlessly.
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improper wrote:Ayatollah wrote:I really think Reigns will win the Universal title on Friday.
If so, it's incredibly sad that they waffled on putting the belt on him at 'Mania because they knew the crowd would crap all over it, only to do it in a country where they're pretty sure he'll get cheered, but that they probably won't visit again for years and that is so behind on social issues that women aren't even allowed to perform there.
I mean, they do realize he has to be champ in America most of the time, right? He might get that one moment where the crowd cheers for him, but he's coming right back home where the crowd will dump on him every week.
Just move on and put the title on someone who doesn't suck. We've wasted four damn years on the Roman Reigns experiment now and it's failed every damn year. The entire WWE product has suffered for those four years because everything has been all about eventually getting Roman over. It's absurd that a company that has live crowds for every event would hitch their entire future on a guy that live crowds boo relentlessly.
The saddest part is, its mostly WWE creatives fault as to why everybody hates him. They've missed the boat so many times hes near unsaveable. The night after last years mania with the "its my yard now" thing, they should have had him be a total prick heel from that point forward. The next week i would've had him coming out attacking faces, and come out in a segment and DESTROY Rollins in a come from behind attack or something, or even face2face just after Rollins finished a grueling match or something MITB cash-in style
Anything is better than this
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Dominater wrote:The saddest part is, its mostly WWE creatives fault as to why everybody hates him. They've missed the boat so many times hes near unsaveable. The night after last years mania with the "its my yard now" thing, they should have had him be a total prick heel from that point forward. The next week i would've had him coming out attacking faces, and come out in a segment and DESTROY Rollins in a come from behind attack or something, or even face2face just after Rollins finished a grueling match or something MITB cash-in style
Anything is better than this
Yeah, it's really crazy how they want this guy to get over so badly, but yet they've done basically everything possible to sabotage him year in and year out. It's like they don't want to take a short term hit in his merch sales that a heel turn would probably create, but they don't realize that they could still save this guy long-term by turning him.
And merch sales are mostly meaningless at this point anyway, as WWE clearly manipulates sales so that their favorites sell the most. You go to a show and what do you see? You see a boatload of gear for Cena and Reigns and a hell of a lot less gear for everyone else. Doesn't exactly take a genius to see why those two guys sell more than everyone else. You make anyone seem that important and give them fifty different items on the WWE Store and they'll move a ton of merchandise just like Roman does.
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improper wrote:Dominater wrote:The saddest part is, its mostly WWE creatives fault as to why everybody hates him. They've missed the boat so many times hes near unsaveable. The night after last years mania with the "its my yard now" thing, they should have had him be a total prick heel from that point forward. The next week i would've had him coming out attacking faces, and come out in a segment and DESTROY Rollins in a come from behind attack or something, or even face2face just after Rollins finished a grueling match or something MITB cash-in style
Anything is better than this
Yeah, it's really crazy how they want this guy to get over so badly, but yet they've done basically everything possible to sabotage him year in and year out. It's like they don't want to take a short term hit in his merch sales that a heel turn would probably create, but they don't realize that they could still save this guy long-term by turning him.
And merch sales are mostly meaningless at this point anyway, as WWE clearly manipulates sales so that their favorites sell the most. You go to a show and what do you see? You see a boatload of gear for Cena and Reigns and a hell of a lot less gear for everyone else. Doesn't exactly take a genius to see why those two guys sell more than everyone else. You make anyone seem that important and give them fifty different items on the WWE Store and they'll move a ton of merchandise just like Roman does.
The funny part about that is, they've already seen with the USOs that sacrificing some merch for a strong Heel run is WELL worth it and will pay for itself in the long run
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Dominater wrote:The funny part about that is, they've already seen with the USOs that sacrificing some merch for a strong Heel run is WELL worth it and will pay for itself in the long run
They've also seen how turning a hated performer getting an awful reaction can create arguably the biggest star in the history of the company. We all remember the "DIE ROCKY DIE" chants.
Granted, Rock has more charisma in his little finger than Roman does in his entire body, but still.
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Apparently, WWE is making somewhere between $100-$200 million for this event. Holy f***.
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improper wrote:Dominater wrote:The funny part about that is, they've already seen with the USOs that sacrificing some merch for a strong Heel run is WELL worth it and will pay for itself in the long run
They've also seen how turning a hated performer getting an awful reaction can create arguably the biggest star in the history of the company. We all remember the "DIE ROCKY DIE" chants.
Granted, Rock has more charisma in his little finger than Roman does in his entire body, but still.
That's why I don't necessarily think that the fans would react well to Roman if he were to return as a face(after a successful heel run). Rock had natural charisma and is an all-time great on the mic. So the transition was easier for him. He's the the exception, not the rule.
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iMoreland wrote:Apparently, WWE is making somewhere between $100-$200 million for this event. Holy f***.
I guess that's what it costs to compromise the values you pretend to have as a company.
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improper wrote:iMoreland wrote:Apparently, WWE is making somewhere between $100-$200 million for this event. Holy f***.
I guess that's what it costs to compromise the values you pretend to have as a company.
This is very true.
Not one women’s match announced for the event (and I doubt they have one). Will women even valet?
WWE going to these places is one thing but neutering your programming is another.
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heatwillbeback wrote:This is very true.
Not one women’s match announced for the event (and I doubt they have one). Will women even valet?
WWE going to these places is one thing but neutering your programming is another.
From what I've read, most of the women aren't even traveling there. And I doubt they'd valet unless they dressed very differently than the WWE women normally do.
The biggest shocker for me is that Paul Heyman is going, but I guess it's better in Saudi Arabia to be a Jewish man than a woman at all.
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improper wrote:heatwillbeback wrote:This is very true.
Not one women’s match announced for the event (and I doubt they have one). Will women even valet?
WWE going to these places is one thing but neutering your programming is another.
From what I've read, most of the women aren't even traveling there. And I doubt they'd valet unless they dressed very differently than the WWE women normally do.
The biggest shocker for me is that Paul Heyman is going, but I guess it's better in Saudi Arabia to be a Jewish man than a woman at all.
I think in Dubai (I forgot exact city) they wrestled but in full body suits. I thought that was a decent compromise because they at least got to perform.
I am not for crapping all over local customs, but WWE should of never gone there if a large part of their roster is unable to perform at all. Take our product as is or don't take it at all.
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heatwillbeback wrote:Will women even valet?
Will there even be women in attendance? I thought they were banned from big events like this.
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Stanford wrote:heatwillbeback wrote:Will women even valet?
Will there even be women in attendance? I thought they were banned from big events like this.
Only if accompanied by men. Women can’t attend alone.
This is legitimately the policy.