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This deserves its own thread because good god, David Arquette doing death matches in 2018, Gage being dense and shooting on him and then talking crap, then Arquette coming back out, hole in his neck and then shooting on Gage.

This was the craziest thing i've seen in ages.

Sorry, but that's a totally worthless garbage match, and Arquette gets up right after he's pinned. Kudo's for bleeding? Seriously? Lame.

Hardcore wrestling is for marks that can't figure out how to wrestle. Hard pass.

It was stupid, sure but it still was rather nuts (note: i didn't actually watch the match, just the clip of the end and Arquette coming out and trying to shoot on Gage, then Gage forcefully pinning him).

jakecronus8 wrote:Hardcore wrestling is for marks that can't figure out how to wrestle. Hard pass.

Harcore wrestling is fine, hardcore wrestling is basically a lot like ECW and even Lucha Underground to an extent and what WWE did in the attitude era with no DQ matches.

This was straight up death match wrestling (i.e. more Big Japan or CZW style).

Spens1 wrote:This was straight up death match wrestling (i.e. more Big Japan or CZW style).

Yeah, I feel like good hardcore wrestling can be used to enhance feuds and make their finales have a bigger impact. Not every feud should have them, but when it works it can be a thing of beauty, like Triple H vs Cactus Jack at that one Royal Rumble. Perfect use of a hardcore / street fight stipulation.

You just need wrestlers who know how to step it up and do a hardcore match right. That Hell of War match from last year's Lucha Underground finale is a good example. That match was violent as hell, but it fit the story they were telling and the spots were all very well done.

The Arquette thing was just sloppy death match BS.

Wrestling like this is just really bad wrestling. No interest in it. That's why I don't care for Dean Ambrose's indie crap as Jon Moxley.

bestnamezRtaken wrote:Wrestling like this is just really bad wrestling. No interest in it. That's why I don't care for Dean Ambrose's indie crap as Jon Moxley.

Ring stuff aside, then you're missing out on some of the best character work over the last decade and a bit. the Jon Moxley character was an absolute masterpiece in terms of work (like if you think current Dean is brilliant, watch a Jon Moxley promo, him and Callihan for that matter were really good for that).