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Re: “Toxic” Jody Allen refuses to sell team 

Post#21 » by PDXKnight » Fri Jul 8, 2022 4:11 pm

Sinobas wrote:The article seems fairly well sourced, with most quotes coming from actual people, backed up by official records etc. Seems the Allen's have some kind of weird animal bone fetish?


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Re: “Toxic” Jody Allen refuses to sell team 

Post#22 » by Case2012 » Fri Jul 8, 2022 5:57 pm

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Well, that's good. I still hate Jody Allen though... 8-)
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Re: “Toxic” Jody Allen refuses to sell team 

Post#23 » by The Sebastian Express » Fri Jul 8, 2022 6:11 pm

Case2012 wrote:Neo's nose was so far up Allen's ass he could've given him a colonoscopy. Let's not forget what a grade a bs artist he was either. Having said that I think he would've been fired after the pelicans sweep if he was still alive.


That's funny because Allen died in October 2018 and the sweep happened in April 2018.
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Re: “Toxic” Jody Allen refuses to sell team 

Post#24 » by Case2012 » Fri Jul 8, 2022 8:27 pm

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Case2012 wrote:Neo's nose was so far up Allen's ass he could've given him a colonoscopy. Let's not forget what a grade a bs artist he was either. Having said that I think he would've been fired after the pelicans sweep ifm he was still alive.


That's funny because Allen died in October 2018 and the sweep happened in April 2018.


Ok... Well I'm sure he was on a lot of pain meds at the time. :cry:

My other theory was neo had compromising photos of the Allen's. Which after this story came out makes me wonder if it had to do with skimpy outfits and exotic/illegal aphrodisiacs made from endangered species.
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Re: “Toxic” Jody Allen refuses to sell team 

Post#25 » by DusterBuster » Fri Jul 8, 2022 9:04 pm

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Well, that's good. I still hate Jody Allen though... 8-)


Same. I still very much want her to sell, but whenever there's a story about Dame in the media that's not directly quoting him, I'm pretty skeptical. He's not a dude like KD or others who does everything in the shadows or through proxies / agents. If there's an issue, he will just say it publicly. He's one of the most transparent players in the NBA. If the situation ever deteriorates to the point where Dame asks out of Portland, he will do it publicly in some form.
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Post#26 » by Case2012 » Fri Jul 8, 2022 9:23 pm

Yeah, well I’m pretty sure him and Jody are good now that he’s getting the most expensive contract of all time.
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Re: “Toxic” Jody Allen refuses to sell team 

Post#27 » by The Sebastian Express » Fri Jul 8, 2022 9:48 pm

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Case2012 wrote:Neo's nose was so far up Allen's ass he could've given him a colonoscopy. Let's not forget what a grade a bs artist he was either. Having said that I think he would've been fired after the pelicans sweep ifm he was still alive.


That's funny because Allen died in October 2018 and the sweep happened in April 2018.


Ok... Well I'm sure he was on a lot of pain meds at the time. :cry:

My other theory was neo had compromising photos of the Allen's. Which after this story came out makes me wonder if it had to do with skimpy outfits and exotic/illegal aphrodisiacs made from endangered species.


I can't tell if you're serious.

The information about the outfits and smuggling has been public information since 2013. You can find the link right here.

There's a lot to criticize Jody Allen about - the making her bodyguards or employees who are men wear skimpy outfits for her viewing pleasure, as alleged, is creepy, harassment and an abuse of power. I think I actually mentioned this in a thread we may have had about this last year? Maybe during the Olshey firing?

But there's a ridiculous amount of overreaction and jumps to conclusions going on here that I genuinely cannot tell if you think Allen was legitimately being blackmailed. Or that he was somehow so out of his senses, you know - while he was attending the playoff series -, that he couldn't make coherent or competent decisions so he has an excuse for why he didn't fire Olshey.

Or that Jody Allen is somehow incredibly cheap, while ignoring she paid a five year contract out to a rookie head coach, that she paid 95 million initially for Powell, or that she's about to pay Dame his 122 million two year extension. Or ignoring that we actually haven't been in the luxury tax for the majority of the last twenty years and she did pay it twice after Paul passed away in 2018-2019 and 2019-2020. Or that she's the one who was at the helm when we finally broke up the DAme/CJ pairing that wasn't working. Or the Terry Stotts pairing when it wasn't working.

We can certainly criticize the lack of an apparent GM search beyond Cronin or one that at least wasn't in-depth. Or even letting Olshey hire BIllups and probably not giving the other candidates a real fair shot. That's perfectly legitimate in my mind.

But at some point when you're saying you hate an owner even though some of the reasons you hated her are debunked, when you're saying you hate her for.. doing the same things.. Paul did (occasionally, but not all the time, paying the luxury tax), trying to blame her for.. not firing Olshey when.. Paul was still alive.., it really bleeds through as hating her for other reasons. She's not the best owner, but she's far from the worse. And how eager so many of you were to jump on the New York Post story and believing it in its own totality is pretty alarming.
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Re: “Toxic” Jody Allen refuses to sell team 

Post#28 » by RTG HD » Fri Jul 8, 2022 9:58 pm

Well well...
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Re: “Toxic” Jody Allen refuses to sell team 

Post#29 » by Dame Lizard » Fri Jul 8, 2022 10:17 pm

RTG HD wrote:Well well...
Read on Twitter
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The dude is just money chasing, it's clear.

I really am not a fan of this extension. As much as I love Dame, I think we need to rebuild.

I genuinely think that Simons as the star on the team could, in a couple of years time, be at the Dame level. Together, they'll just be another Dame and CJ though.

That extension makes that contract far less tradeable imo.
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Re: “Toxic” Jody Allen refuses to sell team 

Post#30 » by Dame Lizard » Fri Jul 8, 2022 10:25 pm

Dame committing his future with this contract is not loyalty. It's for financial gain. He hasn't even proven he can get back to the player he used to be. I think he can, but it's a ridiculous extension.

Harden is going to leave some money on the table to enable the team to get better. Dame is taking every dollar he can at the back end of his prime (he'll be past his prime earning $60m) and seemingly expecting the small-market Blazers to be able to build a contender around that.

This is going to leave us in treadmill purgatory for years. We either commit to the Olshey path and trade our future draft picks for RoCo / Larry Nance role players (and forego unearthing talent), or keep drafting in the hope of getting someone special, which will take time to see any results. Not a good position to be in.
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Re: “Toxic” Jody Allen refuses to sell team 

Post#31 » by Norm2953 » Fri Jul 8, 2022 11:10 pm

Same decision that Kevin Garnett and Aaron Rogers made which is demand to be paid as much money
as possible, while pushing for the team to be a contender.
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Re: “Toxic” Jody Allen refuses to sell team 

Post#32 » by Case2012 » Fri Jul 8, 2022 11:46 pm

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Case2012 wrote:
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That's funny because Allen died in October 2018 and the sweep happened in April 2018.


Ok... Well I'm sure he was on a lot of pain meds at the time. :cry:

My other theory was neo had compromising photos of the Allen's. Which after this story came out makes me wonder if it had to do with skimpy outfits and exotic/illegal aphrodisiacs made from endangered species.


I can't tell if you're serious.

The information about the outfits and smuggling has been public information since 2013. You can find the link right here.

There's a lot to criticize Jody Allen about - the making her bodyguards or employees who are men wear skimpy outfits for her viewing pleasure, as alleged, is creepy, harassment and an abuse of power. I think I actually mentioned this in a thread we may have had about this last year? Maybe during the Olshey firing?

But there's a ridiculous amount of overreaction and jumps to conclusions going on here that I genuinely cannot tell if you think Allen was legitimately being blackmailed. Or that he was somehow so out of his senses, you know - while he was attending the playoff series -, that he couldn't make coherent or competent decisions so he has an excuse for why he didn't fire Olshey.

Or that Jody Allen is somehow incredibly cheap, while ignoring she paid a five year contract out to a rookie head coach, that she paid 95 million initially for Powell, or that she's about to pay Dame his 122 million two year extension. Or ignoring that we actually haven't been in the luxury tax for the majority of the last twenty years and she did pay it twice after Paul passed away in 2018-2019 and 2019-2020. Or that she's the one who was at the helm when we finally broke up the DAme/CJ pairing that wasn't working. Or the Terry Stotts pairing when it wasn't working.

We can certainly criticize the lack of an apparent GM search beyond Cronin or one that at least wasn't in-depth. Or even letting Olshey hire BIllups and probably not giving the other candidates a real fair shot. That's perfectly legitimate in my mind.

But at some point when you're saying you hate an owner even though some of the reasons you hated her are debunked, when you're saying you hate her for.. doing the same things.. Paul did (occasionally, but not all the time, paying the luxury tax), trying to blame her for.. not firing Olshey when.. Paul was still alive.., it really bleeds through as hating her for other reasons. She's not the best owner, but she's far from the worse. And how eager so many of you were to jump on the New York Post story and believing it in its own totality is pretty alarming.



Yeah, it’s like 90% sarcasm TSE. I’m surprised that wasn’t obvious. Yes, I don’t think Jody is a good owner or probably even a good person. Do i think Olshey managed to keep his job through an elaborate sexual blackmail scheme involving smuggled animal bones? No… I just think it’s funny. Trying to rationalize how Olshey kept his job for so long has made for some good banter among friends over the years, I guess my sense of humor doesn’t translate as well on a forum. There’s plenty of legitimate reasons not to like her but I’d rather cope through sarcasm. As far as the post article… It’s not THAT hard not to believe given what we do know about her and the behavior of billionaires in general, who for the most part are completely out of touch with reality. Generally I give people the benefit of the doubt but the ultra rich deserve a different kind of scrutiny.
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Re: “Toxic” Jody Allen refuses to sell team 

Post#33 » by Case2012 » Fri Jul 8, 2022 11:54 pm

Dame Lizard wrote:
RTG HD wrote:Well well...
Read on Twitter
?s=20&t=UPytGUK3qggxFxTTnODF4w
The dude is just money chasing, it's clear.

I really am not a fan of this extension. As much as I love Dame, I think we need to rebuild.

I genuinely think that Simons as the star on the team could, in a couple of years time, be at the Dame level. Together, they'll just be another Dame and CJ though.

That extension makes that contract far less tradeable imo.


As much of a fan as I am of Dame this contract will bring his career earnings on the court to 436 million. That’s an insane amount of money. If he really cared about building a contender why not do a 2 year 60 or 70 million extension so we could actually add pieces. I think he deserves it but the chances of building a contender are over unless we pull off some major trades. But then again, how much of a chance did we have in the first place unless we made major trades? I have serious cognitive dissonance going on right now.
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Re: “Toxic” Jody Allen refuses to sell team 

Post#34 » by Dame Lizard » Sat Jul 9, 2022 1:47 am

Case2012 wrote:
Dame Lizard wrote:
RTG HD wrote:Well well...
Read on Twitter
?s=20&t=UPytGUK3qggxFxTTnODF4w
The dude is just money chasing, it's clear.

I really am not a fan of this extension. As much as I love Dame, I think we need to rebuild.

I genuinely think that Simons as the star on the team could, in a couple of years time, be at the Dame level. Together, they'll just be another Dame and CJ though.

That extension makes that contract far less tradeable imo.


As much of a fan as I am of Dame this contract will bring his career earnings on the court to 436 million. That’s an insane amount of money. If he really cared about building a contender why not do a 2 year 60 or 70 million extension so we could actually add pieces. I think he deserves it but the chances of building a contender are over unless we pull off some major trades. But then again, how much of a chance did we have in the first place unless we made major trades? I have serious cognitive dissonance going on right now.
I agree that he deserves it, but I'm sick of hearing about him wanting to compete and how loyal he is, when he's being paid a contract that will be ludicrous when he's 35-36 years old, even with the salary cap going up.

It's completely fine to chase money. But don't pretend that a championship is your #1 priority if you're asking for the supermax extension.

Cronin's lost me on this extension. I wonder whether the franchise being sold impacted this move, i.e. an overpay to lock-in your superstar for franchise sale purposes.

I just don't understand why we couldn't have offered 2/100 rather than 2/120. $50m/season for a 35 and 36 year old 6'2" guard is already questionable.

That extra $10m/season is the difference between getting a genuine very solid role player (think Javale McGee or GP2) who can absolutely be the deciding factor in winning playoff series. If Dame wouldn't have accepted 2/100, then we should have said "no worries, let's play on and have a chat in January".

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