DusterBuster wrote:Jsun947 wrote:DusterBuster wrote:
Dame is infinitely better than Harden. Dame isn't a consistent no-show in big moments that would rather be partying in Vegas mid-series like Harden... and while the book is out on Chauncey coaching in big moments / series, the book about Doc is WELLL written that no 3 win lead is every safe with him as HC.
I hear your point, but at the end of the day, you need to make the deal and fix the holes that creates later. You don't get chances at current MVP players ever. So if for any reason that is on the table, you do it and figure out the other problems it creates later.
If we had to trade Simons, Nurkic, Sharpe, 23 (#2-#9), relieve our obligation to Chicago and add our 25, 27, 29 picks then we have nothing left to fill our roster. We’d also be capped out under a very punitive CBA moving forward.
We’d be forced to bring back all our FAs to attempt to have a legit team, Grant, Eubanks, Reddish, Thybulle, Knox, and Winslow. If these are your 4th-9th best guys when healthy you aren’t going anywhere.
I think you're underrating what the Blazers group could do with Dame and Embiid spearheading it. The West is pretty wide open still as well. You'd also get some coat-tail guys... there's plenty of reasons to not be as pessimistic as you're being.
But you're not wrong, the team would be pretty handicapped with additional trade possibilities. Happens with every team who makes this type of trade, that's just part of the deal. You can't do an "all-in trade" and still have assets left over to play with. Just not how it works. You do the trade to pair Dame and Embiid, then work with the leftovers to do what you can. Usually that makes lower-level deals like what the Lakers have had to do, decent drafting in the 2nd round, maybe buying 1st rounders, etc, then getting guys on the buyout market mid season like the Clippers and other teams who've done all-in deals do.
It certainly hampers flexibility in a real way, but the team would not be locked into never making another move like you're making it out to be.
Except in the new CBA we won’t be able to use a tax payer MLE, can’t trade a pick 7 years away, can’t sign free agents in the buyout market, can’t trade cash, and can’t take back more salary in a trade then we’re sending out.
Those weren’t restrictions before.
Outside the top three players who would be getting meaningful minutes in the playoffs if they were on the Nuggets, Lakers, or Celtics? Anyone? And all of this is assuming these guys would actually resign with us in the first place.