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Game 10: Portland vs Minnesota 6:00pm

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Re: Game 10: Portland vs Minnesota 6:00pm 

Post#21 » by Sinobas » Sat Nov 9, 2024 5:56 pm

Walton1one wrote:TL is just a solid NBA player, he is a valuable rotation piece on ANY team

+ defender
+ rebounder
Can score, good P&R player

If he could stay healthy, at his age (26?), POR would keep him, but injuries are such a factor with him, that to get the most out of him without unnecessarily rolling the dice, you need to manage his minutes

No back to backs
Minutes restriction
Over cautious when it comes to any discomfort

For a guy like him. The goal is to preserve him as much as you can for the playoffs

Curious to see what he is ultimately dealt for, but I will be surprised if he does not bring a 1st back, he is just too good, even with injury concerns not to


Trade him now before he gets hurt again.
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Re: Game 10: Portland vs Minnesota 6:00pm 

Post#22 » by PDXKnight » Sat Nov 9, 2024 5:58 pm

Walton1one wrote:TL is just a solid NBA player, he is a valuable rotation piece on ANY team

+ defender
+ rebounder
Can score, good P&R player

If he could stay healthy, at his age (26?), POR would keep him, but injuries are such a factor with him, that to get the most out of him without unnecessarily rolling the dice, you need to manage his minutes

No back to backs
Minutes restriction
Over cautious when it comes to any discomfort

For a guy like him. The goal is to preserve him as much as you can for the playoffs

Curious to see what he is ultimately dealt for, but I will be surprised if he does not bring a 1st back, he is just too good, even with injury concerns not to


Injury history is a major drawback on the trade market there's no masking that. Who knows what the market will bear but I'm skeptical of the first coming as it's hard to imagine another team paying such draft capital for a guy who is in essence a 15-20 mpg energy guy off the bench. He will give you a really good 20 minutes but at least as best as I can tell teams typically deal firsts for prospective starters or prospects with some decent upside. I think we probably get a couple seconds but if we get a first for sure we take it and run.

I say this knowing if we do something like take a longer contract or some other means of evening the value maybe we could get a protected first but in any normal trade i just don't envision it personally.
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Re: Game 10: Portland vs Minnesota 6:00pm 

Post#23 » by Wizenheimer » Sat Nov 9, 2024 6:10 pm

mighty_duck wrote:Two can play at that game :)
Ayton has 11 boards a game and shoots 52/45.
Grant has 4 boards a game and shoots 39/33.

But the truth is that people want to trade both. We can lose just fine without either of them!
The best reason to prefer Ayton, is that he is 4 years younger and might be on the Scoot/Sharpe/Deni/Camara timeline.


well, yeah, I want all 3 of Simons-Ayton-Grant traded, ASAP.. If I had my way, Simons and Ayton would be headed out the door before Grant, but sayonara to all three. Same for Thybulle and Timelord although that's a minor impulse

as for Grant vs Ayton, Grant is a shooter and scorer and those kinds of players go thru slumps and cold streaks all the time.Happens to all of them. Grant is not a good rebounder, that's well known, but he's essentially a SF and his rebounding rate, while below average for a SF is not egregiously bad.

Grant is a legit NBA wing. He can play solid defense, when motivated. Meaning he has 2-way talent and 3&D skills. That's valuable for the most part

on the other hand, think about the skills you might want in an NBA C: rim protection, paint defense, rebounding, getting to the FT line, screen setting, high post passing, decent salary. Ayton only checks one of those boxes and that's rebounding. Having a 7' C whose best offensive skill is standing 17 feet from the hoop waiting for an outlet pass, then chucking up a shot without ever drawing a foul, and paying 35M/year for that is nuts
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Re: Game 10: Portland vs Minnesota 6:00pm 

Post#24 » by Village Idiot » Sat Nov 9, 2024 7:54 pm

Billups is coaching for his job. I wonder if he changes his starting line-up next game. Simons, Avdija and Ayton simply aren't getting it done and need a fire lit under their asses. If I were him I would start Scoot and Timelord in place of Simons and Ayton.
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Re: Game 10: Portland vs Minnesota 6:00pm 

Post#25 » by DaVoiceMaster » Sat Nov 9, 2024 8:15 pm

Timelord looked good. Sharpe has looked decent as well since returning.

I'm with Wiz... move Simon's first, Ayton second, Grant third, and Thybulle / Tumelord after that. I don't think there are many 1st Round picks to be had for those players. I'd settle for expiring contracts.
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Re: Game 10: Portland vs Minnesota 6:00pm 

Post#26 » by BlazersBroncos » Mon Nov 11, 2024 5:03 am

I would be fine with Ant and Ayton for expiring at this point.

The vets are unwatchable.

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