RobWill getting strong interest from Lakers, Nuggets, Rockets

[DusterBuster]

One advantage for POR should be that they have a number of players that could be added to an RW3 deal that could help push the compensation coming back over the hump

Guys like, Thybulle ($11mil PO next year), Banton, Walker, Reath, (all making $2mil or under), even a guy like Murray ($2.9mil) or maybe even Rupert ($1.9mil)

I do think HOU makes the most sense, and I think they could acquire RW3 w\o messing with their core rotation or dealing a highly valuable 1st

HOUSTON
RW3\Thybulle\Walker
for
Landale\Tate\Green & Whitmore

RW3\Thybulle\Reath
for
Adams\Green\Landale 28' HOU 1st (lotto protected, if no convey, 1-8 in 29' (they have (2) 1st's in 29') if no convey, then (2) future 2nd's) & 25' 2nd (MEM has swap rights)

DENVER
They are $5.15mil under 2nd apron, hard capped @ 2nd apron (have to take less than they send out)

RW3
for
Nnaji\Saric & 31 1st (lotto protected)

RW3\Banton\Reath (or sub Walker for (1) of Reath\banton)
for
Nnaji, Saric & either Strawther or Watson

RW3\Simons\Reath
for
MPJ\Saric & Strawther (or Watson) + 31' lotto protected 1st

LAKERS
been through this a bunch, they don't want to spend a 1st unless it is for star & I don't think POR takes (2) mid\bad 25' 2nd's back for RW3, so it would have to be a young player

RW3\Thybulle\Banton (could be Walker or Reath)
for
Rui\JHS\Christie

RW3\Thybulle\Banton (or Walker\Reath)
for
Vincent\Vanderbilt\Knecht & lotto protected 29' (or 31') 1st

The latest reports are that to take on Vanderbilt's contract, the cost is a 1st, so Knecht + 1st, seems about right

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10152617-lakers-insider-teams-will-demand-1st-round-draft-pick-in-jarred-vanderbilt-trade

RW3 & (1) of Walker\Reath\Banton
for
Vincent\Knecht & (25' 2nd, most favorable)

There's no way we pull a first AND knecht for rob. That's a pipe dream even with taking on vanderbilts contract

Yeah, some of these are wildly off or excessively complicated when they don't need to be.

[Wizenheimer]

so, Blazers coveted Ayton for 2 years; and got him in the Dame trade

and they wanted Timelord as a keeper and also got him in the Dame trade

they wanted those two C's so much that 7 months ago they drafted an anachronistic 7' C with the 7th pick and reportedly were looking at trading up to land the guy

I'm thinking there's some major spin coming out of the Blazer front office

[Walton1one]

That is a good point

[DusterBuster]

so, Blazers coveted Ayton for 2 years; and got him in the Dame trade

and they wanted Timelord as a keeper and also got him in the Dame trade

they wanted those two C's so much that 7 months ago they drafted an anachronistic 7' C with the 7th pick and reportedly were looking at trading up to land the guy

I'm thinking there's some major spin coming out of the Blazer front office

I believe them with Timelord. He was pretty highly regarded by almost all teams in the league.

Ayton smelled of spin tho by needing to sell the fanbase on pieces they got in return for Dame.

Clingan was best player available for the draft. Considering they fell backwards from their draft position and it was a pretty up in the air draft class with some teams considering Clingan for a Top 3 pick, I don't doubt they had him super high on their board... with RW being injured for essentially the entirety of last season, they were wise to not bet on his health.

A lot of text to just say, I see the point and agree there is plenty of spin in some areas, but also don't think everything they say is spin.

[Walton1one]

LAL options are pretty limited, and it’s their insider who said that teams are asking for a 1st round pick back to take Vanderbilt and his contract, so that is not far-fetched

Also, Knecht & his porous defense, are starting to wear thin, JJ was yelling at him the other night, and it’s not like his recent play has been good, I could definitely see them choosing to offload him instead of someone like Christie, who is playing well, and nobody thinks JHS has value

[Walton1one]

Looks like RW3 is a backup plan for LAL anyway, latest rumor is them going all in to get Myles Turner

From Brett Siegel

sources tell @AnthonyIrwinLA and myself that the Lakers have held extensive internal conversations about Myles Turner.

Prices on Jonas Valanciunas and Nikola Vucevic are still high, leading LA to lock onto Turner.

New story on @ClutchPoints:

[DusterBuster]

Looks like RW3 is a backup plan for LAL anyway, latest rumor is them going all in to get Myles Turner

From Brett Siegel

sources tell @AnthonyIrwinLA and myself that the Lakers have held extensive internal conversations about Myles Turner.

Prices on Jonas Valanciunas and Nikola Vucevic are still high, leading LA to lock onto Turner.

New story on @ClutchPoints:

Internal conversations are kind of pointless. Teams can have internal conversations about literally any and every player in the league. Internal convos only matter once they become two way convos.

[Walton1one]

Well Anthony Irwin is a pretty good source about the Lakers, he had an article on clutch points about Turner, and mentioned the possibility of a three team deal involving LAL\IND\POR

One way or another, the Lakers would have to move both their first-rounders to bring in Turner. If the teams want to keep it as simple as possible, then Hachimura, Jalen Hood-Schifino and those two picks could go to Indiana with Turner going to L.A. This feels unlikely though, as it would be a hard-right turn into a rebuild while the Pacers sit fifth in the Eastern Conference.

Another option would be to involve the Portland Trail Blazers as a third team, with Robert Williams III going to Indiana, Hachimura and the lesser pick the Lakers offer going to Portland. Regardless of the specifics, it's going to cost those two picks, Hachimura (because he's the only non-negative contract at the Lakers' disposal) and filler.

Here is the link

https://clutchpoints.com/lakers-trade-target-is-myles-turner-actually-available

[tester551]

Well Anthony Irwin is a pretty good source about the Lakers, he had an article on clutch points about Turner, and mentioned the possibility of a three team deal involving LAL\IND\POR

One way or another, the Lakers would have to move both their first-rounders to bring in Turner. If the teams want to keep it as simple as possible, then Hachimura, Jalen Hood-Schifino and those two picks could go to Indiana with Turner going to L.A. This feels unlikely though, as it would be a hard-right turn into a rebuild while the Pacers sit fifth in the Eastern Conference.

Another option would be to involve the Portland Trail Blazers as a third team, with Robert Williams III going to Indiana, Hachimura and the lesser pick the Lakers offer going to Portland. Regardless of the specifics, it's going to cost those two picks, Hachimura (because he's the only non-negative contract at the Lakers' disposal) and filler.

Here is the link

https://clutchpoints.com/lakers-trade-target-is-myles-turner-actually-available

2 picks for Turner???
Wild. Im not sure that Id even give up 1 for him.
He's on par with Ayton IMO. Plus Turner is an expiring contract

[DusterBuster]

Well Anthony Irwin is a pretty good source about the Lakers, he had an article on clutch points about Turner, and mentioned the possibility of a three team deal involving LAL\IND\POR

One way or another, the Lakers would have to move both their first-rounders to bring in Turner. If the teams want to keep it as simple as possible, then Hachimura, Jalen Hood-Schifino and those two picks could go to Indiana with Turner going to L.A. This feels unlikely though, as it would be a hard-right turn into a rebuild while the Pacers sit fifth in the Eastern Conference.

Another option would be to involve the Portland Trail Blazers as a third team, with Robert Williams III going to Indiana, Hachimura and the lesser pick the Lakers offer going to Portland. Regardless of the specifics, it's going to cost those two picks, Hachimura (because he's the only non-negative contract at the Lakers' disposal) and filler.

Here is the link

https://clutchpoints.com/lakers-trade-target-is-myles-turner-actually-available

2 picks for Turner???
Wild. Im not sure that Id even give up 1 for him.
He's on par with Ayton IMO. Plus Turner is an expiring contract

No offense, but that's pretty far off of a comp. Turner is definitely talent wise worth 2 FRPs, the expiring is eyebrow raising, but he's better than Ayton - he at least gives a consistent effort and is a really good defender.

Personally I don't get why the Pacers would want to trade him unless they just don't want to resign him and want to get something in return rather than nothing. The article linked itself even mentions that it would be a strange pivot for the Pacers to move him when they're 5th in the East right now and back to clicking like they were last year... weird time to pivot by moving such a bit piece of the starting unit.

Not sure how reputable ClutchPoints is, reads very similar to just a BlazersEdge or Bleacher Report style blog.

[SlimShady83]

I'm a Laker fan, but OP posted on Lakerboard as well here link for a read. others might chime In, In time.

I don't think Lakers will trade RB3 and having to give up FRP. They'd much be more interested In Kessler/Turner using the pics on them and op sent link for 3 team trade etc which I'm ok with.

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[BlazersBroncos]

Turner is on another planet defensively than Ayton and is both a better floor spacer and better at getting to the line than Ayton.

They are not remotely comparable IMO.

If Indiana is moving Myles is solely because they don’t want to pay him the big money he is about to be due.

[PDXKnight]

so, Blazers coveted Ayton for 2 years; and got him in the Dame trade

and they wanted Timelord as a keeper and also got him in the Dame trade

they wanted those two C's so much that 7 months ago they drafted an anachronistic 7' C with the 7th pick and reportedly were looking at trading up to land the guy

I'm thinking there's some major spin coming out of the Blazer front office

I believe them with Timelord. He was pretty highly regarded by almost all teams in the league.

Ayton smelled of spin tho by needing to sell the fanbase on pieces they got in return for Dame.

Clingan was best player available for the draft. Considering they fell backwards from their draft position and it was a pretty up in the air draft class with some teams considering Clingan for a Top 3 pick, I don't doubt they had him super high on their board... with RW being injured for essentially the entirety of last season, they were wise to not bet on his health.

A lot of text to just say, I see the point and agree there is plenty of spin in some areas, but also don't think everything they say is spin.

TL no doubt they wanted and probably still want. They drafted clingan because TL can't stay healthy when he plays huge minutes. He needs to play 18-20 mpg and be a huge burst of energy but he's a second fiddle sort of guy. So I'd agree drafting Donovan means little to nothing in regards to Robert. OTOH ayton...

[Wizenheimer]

Since Timelord arrived in Portland, he has played 23 games...and missed 106. This is his 7th NBA season and he's played more than 35 games twice

great player but he's a terrible bet

[PDXKnight]

Since Timelord arrived in Portland, he has played 23 games...and missed 106. This is his 7th NBA season and he's played more than 35 games twice

great player but he's a terrible bet

Oh I agree. On one hand he's our best big on the other hand he's almost a lock to have a major injury.

Some have discussed giving him a similar deal to what he makes now. I am uncomfortable with even that sort of extension unless its a 2 + To (or preferably 2 straight team options for years 3 & 4). If possible do a deal like "if Robert plays in 62 or more games a season year 3 becomes fully guaranteed"