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Post#101 » by DusterBuster » Mon Dec 8, 2025 1:18 am

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DaVoiceMaster wrote:Billups just sold his house here. Guess the writing is on the wall.

Well he will possibly be living in the big house soon. Also known as the grey bar hotel.


Even if he does actual time for this (I'm skeptical of that outcome, but certainly not impossible), he'll probably be in "Club Fed".
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Post#102 » by Wizenheimer » Mon Dec 8, 2025 1:46 am

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DaVoiceMaster wrote:Billups just sold his house here. Guess the writing is on the wall.

Well he will possibly be living in the big house soon. Also known as the grey bar hotel.


Even if he does actual time for this (I'm skeptical of that outcome, but certainly not impossible), he'll probably be in "Club Fed".


make a remake of The Longest Yard but with a basketball theme

what would the title be? '[i]The Restricted Zone'[/i]?...'The Hardest Foul'?...'From Court to Courts'?
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Post#103 » by PDXKnight » Mon Dec 8, 2025 4:09 am

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DusterBuster wrote:
Brandon-Clyde wrote:Well he will possibly be living in the big house soon. Also known as the grey bar hotel.


Even if he does actual time for this (I'm skeptical of that outcome, but certainly not impossible), he'll probably be in "Club Fed".


make a remake of The Longest Yard but with a basketball theme

what would the title be? '[i]The Restricted Zone'[/i]?...'The Hardest Foul'?...'From Court to Courts'?


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Even if he does actual time for this (I'm skeptical of that outcome, but certainly not impossible), he'll probably be in "Club Fed".


make a remake of The Longest Yard but with a basketball theme

what would the title be? '[i]The Restricted Zone'[/i]?...'The Hardest Foul'?...'From Court to Courts'?


Man on Man full court press :lol:


Wrong kinda movie…
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Post#105 » by Wizenheimer » Mon Dec 8, 2025 7:27 pm

Billups is selling his house in Lake Oswego. All bridges burned
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Post#106 » by zzaj » Mon Dec 8, 2025 9:20 pm

Wizenheimer wrote:Billups is selling his house in Lake Oswego. All bridges burned


Yeah, I saw a picture of the "for sale" sign on social media somewhere...I wonder how long the "acting head coach" moniker is going to need to be legally in place. I wonder if it has to do with his current contract/money from the Blazers org/NBA. It's unclear to me whether the team is forced to pay him in this circumstance, or whether his contract can be voided--I'm sure they wouldn't if he resigned. So Billups may be holding on just to collect his paychecks.
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Post#107 » by JRoy » Mon Dec 8, 2025 9:36 pm

There could be a moral turpitude clause.
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Post#108 » by mojomarc » Tue Dec 9, 2025 10:08 pm

DusterBuster wrote:
PDXKnight wrote:
Wizenheimer wrote:
make a remake of The Longest Yard but with a basketball theme

what would the title be? '[i]The Restricted Zone'[/i]?...'The Hardest Foul'?...'From Court to Courts'?


Man on Man full court press :lol:


Wrong kinda movie…


If it were that kind of movie, it would be "Hard Time"
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Post#109 » by Village Idiot » Yesterday 10:46 am

zzaj wrote:
Wizenheimer wrote:Billups is selling his house in Lake Oswego. All bridges burned


Yeah, I saw a picture of the "for sale" sign on social media somewhere...I wonder how long the "acting head coach" moniker is going to need to be legally in place. I wonder if it has to do with his current contract/money from the Blazers org/NBA. It's unclear to me whether the team is forced to pay him in this circumstance, or whether his contract can be voided--I'm sure they wouldn't if he resigned. So Billups may be holding on just to collect his paychecks.
Given the situation and the rapidity of the sale it wouldn't surprise me if this was mafia money trying to grease some wheels.
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Post#110 » by DusterBuster » Yesterday 4:31 pm

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Wizenheimer wrote:Billups is selling his house in Lake Oswego. All bridges burned


Yeah, I saw a picture of the "for sale" sign on social media somewhere...I wonder how long the "acting head coach" moniker is going to need to be legally in place. I wonder if it has to do with his current contract/money from the Blazers org/NBA. It's unclear to me whether the team is forced to pay him in this circumstance, or whether his contract can be voided--I'm sure they wouldn't if he resigned. So Billups may be holding on just to collect his paychecks.
Given the situation and the rapidity of the sale it wouldn't surprise me if this was mafia money trying to grease some wheels.


Eh, maybe. Could also just as likely (if not more so) that it's simply to help cover the legal fees and stay afloat financially. He's going to be in the legal system for probably the next 1-2 years over this and fighting it since he pleaded not guilty... lawyers ain't cheap. Plus the FBI and NBA are keeping all of his money in an escrow he can't touch while charged with the crime. Sale of a house is money outside of the purview of his job, so I would think some of the house sale would simply be that he can pay his bills and live.
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Post#111 » by DusterBuster » Yesterday 4:32 pm

JRoy wrote:There could be a moral turpitude clause.


Pretty sure every team in the league has a moral clause of some sort. Rare they get acted upon, but I would certainly think getting arrested by the FBI in the wee hours of the morning could be one of them...
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Post#112 » by Wizenheimer » Yesterday 6:14 pm

DusterBuster wrote:Eh, maybe. Could also just as likely (if not more so) that it's simply to help cover the legal fees and stay afloat financially. He's going to be in the legal system for probably the next 1-2 years over this and fighting it since he pleaded not guilty... lawyers ain't cheap. Plus the FBI and NBA are keeping all of his money in an escrow he can't touch while charged with the crime. Sale of a house is money outside of the purview of his job, so I would think some of the house sale would simply be that he can pay his bills and live.


there is no escrow account for Chauncey's salary. The Blazers are simply not paying it and the NBA league office gave Portland the cover to withhold the salary

from reading summaries of the indictment language it sure sounded like the FBI had wiretapped the conversation(s) Billups had with the gambler when Billups gave him advanced inside information on Blazer player's injury status prior to at least one game. That itself would almost certainly be enough to trigger a morals clause, void his contract, and get Billups black-balled from the NBA for good

and yes, it's a bit hypocritical considering the NBA is developing relationships with online sports betting

and yeah, he's probably in a situation, without salary coming in, that he needs the 4M from the sale of his house. I'd imagine it's better for him to be more liquid in his finances at this point. I don't believe this will ever come to trial; FBI led investigations usually lead to plea deals
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Post#113 » by DusterBuster » Yesterday 7:47 pm

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DusterBuster wrote:Eh, maybe. Could also just as likely (if not more so) that it's simply to help cover the legal fees and stay afloat financially. He's going to be in the legal system for probably the next 1-2 years over this and fighting it since he pleaded not guilty... lawyers ain't cheap. Plus the FBI and NBA are keeping all of his money in an escrow he can't touch while charged with the crime. Sale of a house is money outside of the purview of his job, so I would think some of the house sale would simply be that he can pay his bills and live.


there is no escrow account for Chauncey's salary. The Blazers are simply not paying it and the NBA league office gave Portland the cover to withhold the salary

from reading summaries of the indictment language it sure sounded like the FBI had wiretapped the conversation(s) Billups had with the gambler when Billups gave him advanced inside information on Blazer player's injury status prior to at least one game. That itself would almost certainly be enough to trigger a morals clause, void his contract, and get Billups black-balled from the NBA for good

and yes, it's a bit hypocritical considering the NBA is developing relationships with online sports betting

and yeah, he's probably in a situation, without salary coming in, that he needs the 4M from the sale of his house. I'd imagine it's better for him to be more liquid in his finances at this point. I don't believe this will ever come to trial; FBI led investigations usually lead to plea deals


I had read an article or tweet that there was an escrow that all his payments were going into for holding until a verdict was made in the case, but that could have been incorrect.

Regardless, we agree that the house sale is very unlikely to be mob payoffs.
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Post#114 » by Wizenheimer » Yesterday 8:30 pm

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DusterBuster wrote:Eh, maybe. Could also just as likely (if not more so) that it's simply to help cover the legal fees and stay afloat financially. He's going to be in the legal system for probably the next 1-2 years over this and fighting it since he pleaded not guilty... lawyers ain't cheap. Plus the FBI and NBA are keeping all of his money in an escrow he can't touch while charged with the crime. Sale of a house is money outside of the purview of his job, so I would think some of the house sale would simply be that he can pay his bills and live.


there is no escrow account for Chauncey's salary. The Blazers are simply not paying it and the NBA league office gave Portland the cover to withhold the salary

from reading summaries of the indictment language it sure sounded like the FBI had wiretapped the conversation(s) Billups had with the gambler when Billups gave him advanced inside information on Blazer player's injury status prior to at least one game. That itself would almost certainly be enough to trigger a morals clause, void his contract, and get Billups black-balled from the NBA for good

and yes, it's a bit hypocritical considering the NBA is developing relationships with online sports betting

and yeah, he's probably in a situation, without salary coming in, that he needs the 4M from the sale of his house. I'd imagine it's better for him to be more liquid in his finances at this point. I don't believe this will ever come to trial; FBI led investigations usually lead to plea deals


I had read an article or tweet that there was an escrow that all his payments were going into for holding until a verdict was made in the case, but that could have been incorrect.

Regardless, we agree that the house sale is very unlikely to be mob payoffs.


Rozier's salary is going into and escrow account; IIRC that's mandated by the CBA in situations like this since Rozier is a player and member of the player's union. There are no CBA protections for coaches though; or at least none that covers a situation like this
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Post#115 » by DusterBuster » Yesterday 9:13 pm

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there is no escrow account for Chauncey's salary. The Blazers are simply not paying it and the NBA league office gave Portland the cover to withhold the salary

from reading summaries of the indictment language it sure sounded like the FBI had wiretapped the conversation(s) Billups had with the gambler when Billups gave him advanced inside information on Blazer player's injury status prior to at least one game. That itself would almost certainly be enough to trigger a morals clause, void his contract, and get Billups black-balled from the NBA for good

and yes, it's a bit hypocritical considering the NBA is developing relationships with online sports betting

and yeah, he's probably in a situation, without salary coming in, that he needs the 4M from the sale of his house. I'd imagine it's better for him to be more liquid in his finances at this point. I don't believe this will ever come to trial; FBI led investigations usually lead to plea deals


I had read an article or tweet that there was an escrow that all his payments were going into for holding until a verdict was made in the case, but that could have been incorrect.

Regardless, we agree that the house sale is very unlikely to be mob payoffs.


Rozier's salary is going into and escrow account; IIRC that's mandated by the CBA in situations like this since Rozier is a player and member of the player's union. There are no CBA protections for coaches though; or at least none that covers a situation like this
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Ah, that might have been it then. Maybe an X account agitated or it was just a headline I didn’t read the article of.

Good to know, but still kinda immaterial to our point. Bro needs money and his Oregon house likely was just one of a few. He ain’t coming back to Portland anytime soon, so makes sense in his position to cash out that asset.
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Post#116 » by Wizenheimer » Yesterday 9:49 pm

I just have to wonder: obviously the Fed are targeting mafia and crime families here; and they have to threat of bring RICO charges. If the charges are supported by evidence, and if Chauncey is angling for a plea deal, he'd likely have to point fingers at organized crime. And that's probably a terrible position to be in
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Post#117 » by DusterBuster » 29 minutes ago

Wizenheimer wrote:I just have to wonder: obviously the Fed are targeting mafia and crime families here; and they have to threat of bring RICO charges. If the charges are supported by evidence, and if Chauncey is angling for a plea deal, he'd likely have to point fingers at organized crime. And that's probably a terrible position to be in


The mob has a lot of tentacles. I might just take the jail time and hope for early release on good behavior vs looking over my shoulders the rest of my life if I’m Billups.

Also, speaking of Rozier, am I crazy that thinking it’s ridiculous some people think the Heat should get their pick back because the Hornets didn’t reveal the investigation to the Heat?

This isn’t directed to anyone other than the general media comments and podcasts around this I’ve heard today:

First off, **** the Heat. Secondly, I do agree the NBA should let the Heat know if his contract is tradable, that’s a no brainer. But this crap that they should get their pick back as well is stupid.

How is that any different than teams being shifty about sharing full medical reports on players - which happened all the time. That’s why teams do their due diligence. Is it shady of the other team, sure, but it’s part of doing business for some teams. That’s why it’s a bit of honor system, screw over a team like that and other teams won’t work with you, but that’s the teams choice to be shady.

If you don’t do a full scout on a player and you get burned for something a few years later that you missed, that’s on you, you don’t get reparations for that.

If you buy a lemon from a used car salesman, than the transmission dies a year later, you don’t get your money back. Sucks, but save me the boo hoo for the Heat.

Maybe had they not dicked around on the Dame deal for 3mo and negotiated in good faith instead of said “give him to us for nothing”, they wouldn’t have been caught on their back heals needing to fill they hold they left open all summer for Dame in a rush that led to them not properly vetting Rozier.
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