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Re: 'Short' time till the Draft 

Post#101 » by DusterBuster » Thu Jun 17, 2010 8:47 am

Blazermania08 wrote:I think Rudy will be traded way before Webster will be gone. Switch Rudy for Webster and I would consider it. After all Phoenix wanted Rudy At #24 until PA n KP bought him.


You have to match contracts. Swapping Rudy for Webster throws the salaries too far off. If you want to make a deal work for Nash, Hill and Barbosa, Webster has to be involved. However, I don't think Sarver would want Webster. If/when Amare leaves and the Suns begin to rebuild, I expect he's going to avoid any longterm contract like the plague until he has enough cap space to restock that team.

Back to any potential Nash to Portland trade.... Again, I think Bayless is going to be demanded from the Suns for him. He's a hometown kid, he's on his rookie contract and they know exactly what he's capable of as he had some of the best games of his career against the Suns this past season.

You also don't have the Rudy pick facts straight. The Suns basketball guys likely would have loved to keep Rudy, but Sarver didn't want him. He wanted to save money and it was him that sold the pick to Paul Allen. Sarver has had a long history of selling draft picks.
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Re: 'Short' time till the Draft 

Post#102 » by DaVoiceMaster » Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:39 am

Love the info Pup!!!

There's an article on Hoopshype.com that says Splitter wants to play in the NBA next season. Does that mean the Spurs would still be interested in Aldridge for Parker? Not to mention a 3rd team would be needed since Aldridge is a PPP contract... $10.7 going out, but only $5.35 coming back allowed. Are the Spurs looking to dump Parker's contract or do they actually want something in return? I'm just wondering about a TPE if Portland were able to send Aldridge to a team with salary cap space.
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Re: 'Short' time till the Draft 

Post#103 » by DusterBuster » Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:52 am

Ya, I honestly don't see Aldridge being a big trade commodity for the Blazers with all the restrictions currently on his contract. It's just too hard to make deals work.
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Re: 'Short' time till the Draft 

Post#104 » by DaVoiceMaster » Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:01 am

Could Devin Harris be on the outs with Avery Johnson now being the coach?
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Re: 'Short' time till the Draft 

Post#105 » by DusterBuster » Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:20 am

DaVoiceMaster wrote:Could Devin Harris be on the outs with Avery Johnson now being the coach?


I seriously doubt it. I remember hearing recently that Harris and Avery actually got along well in Dallas.
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Re: 'Short' time till the Draft 

Post#106 » by Blazermania08 » Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:56 am

DaVoiceMaster wrote:Love the info Pup!!!

There's an article on Hoopshype.com that says Splitter wants to play in the NBA next season. Does that mean the Spurs would still be interested in Aldridge for Parker? Not to mention a 3rd team would be needed since Aldridge is a PPP contract... $10.7 going out, but only $5.35 coming back allowed. Are the Spurs looking to dump Parker's contract or do they actually want something in return? I'm just wondering about a TPE if Portland were able to send Aldridge to a team with salary cap space.


LMA contract with the PPP expires July 1st, so if by some miracle KP keeps his job by July 1st LMA for Parker could work because his contract would now go out in a trade value as 10.7 Mill. Although that is a BIG IF...
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Re: 'Short' time till the Draft 

Post#107 » by Fitz303 » Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:37 am

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DaVoiceMaster wrote:Could Devin Harris be on the outs with Avery Johnson now being the coach?


I seriously doubt it. I remember hearing recently that Harris and Avery actually got along well in Dallas.


No, it was actually quite the opposite. Harris and Johnson didn't get along very well at all. This is a part of a piece from espn insider

Devin Harris and Avery Johnson did not have the best relationship in Dallas, but they now seem to be on the same page.

"We butted heads, we'll probably still butt heads going forward," Harris told the New York Post. "But it's all about winning and that's the only thing we both respect."

Johnson was introduced as the Nets new coach on Tuesday.

"Obviously I would like to have a little more trust on the sideline," Harris said. "I'm at a different point in my career. I think he has learned a lot from his absence in coaching and I think we will be a good fit."
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Re: 'Short' time till the Draft 

Post#108 » by Fitz303 » Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:45 am

TBpup wrote:Fitz...nothing wrong with that idea but in a S&T, some of the players listed in the lineup posted would be gone as compensation unless you are trading Joel's contract for him which would be close to working. Now that is the kind of outside the box thinking that generates excellent discussion regardless of what ends up happening.

Good work.


Yeah, I was thinking somewhere along the lines of Aldridge, Miller, Przybilla, #22 pick, rights to Claver. There are some assets that I left out

Aldridges contract isnt as much of an issue as some think. Aldridge and Webster for Parker and Hairston works fine.

My guess is that they would want it to be a 3 way so they can get NJ involved to get Favors instead of Aldridge. But who knows. Just throwin things out there
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Post#109 » by Blazinaway » Thu Jun 17, 2010 1:03 pm

Butter wrote:In order to qualify as a "star" this trade target would likely have to be a starter. So through process of elimination, which starter would Paul Allen and the gang want to upgrade?

Andre Miller - yes
Brandon Roy - no
Nicolas Batum - very unlikely
LMA - very possible
Greg Oden - possible, but unlikely

To me, this suggests that it'd either be Miller or LMA. I just can't see them moving LMA for a PG. It'd leave a huge hole in the PF rotation, and then they'd have Parker and Miller at the same spot.

I think its either Miller and pieces for a PG or LMA and pieces for an upgrade at PF. Considering that LMA is on a PP contract, my bet is on upgrading the PG, but I still think LMA is a distinct possibility.



well if Amare is going to Miami maybe Haslem comes here to plug the PF hole?
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Re: 'Short' time till the Draft 

Post#110 » by blazers73 » Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:12 pm

With his inability to hit a 3 pointer I don't see Parker as being a great fit. Better than Miller yes, perfect PG no


Agreed. Parker is a younger and better Miller but I wouldn't want to give up Aldridge for him unless we had some pretty good deal to get a decent replacment. I know we all compain about Aldridge. But he is still a decent-good PF and should still improve. Not to mention I think Oden and Aldridge will mesh well together in the future.
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Post#111 » by Billy » Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:16 pm

I love the thought of Parker. He has championship experience, and he knows how to work with other talent. San Antonio has always been on the bleeding edge of player transactions, seemingly always making the right move at the right time that makes them stronger. But I'm personally rather surprised that they are suddenly willing to move Parker in favor of George Hill.

If Portland could somehow get Parker with someone like Aldridge, I think they get better. Portland would need to pick up another PF though.

Devin Harris is another interesting option.


Not sure about Nash/Hill. Great players, but I'm not entirely sure they fit into saving KP's job. They'd give Portland a very strong team for another 2 years, but after that it would be back to the drawing board.
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Post#112 » by TBpup » Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:26 pm

Can you give an update on Greg Oden? What % would u put him at health wise right now?

Do you think he'll be ready by the season?


MBash...Oden will start running in July and begin 2-on-2 scrimmages in August for what they hope/expect will have him ready for training camp in October. Now it is up to his mental toughness to deal with another rehabe and it was reported yesterday that Nate thinks he is handling that well. Below is a link to a YahooSports interview from yesterday.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Ag0vULe6T0eGhzvkwH0mWU.8vLYF?slug=ys-odenblazers061610
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Re: 'Short' time till the Draft 

Post#113 » by d-train » Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:30 pm

I can't see the Spurs trading away Parker or other assets while they still have Duncan. If they trade Duncan, then I would expect others to go as well.
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Re: 'Short' time till the Draft 

Post#114 » by JD45 » Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:41 pm

Fitz303 wrote:Well Chad Ford is still reporting that the Spurs may be looking to move Parker if they can move up in the draft and grab a big man.

Would the Blazers move Aldridge in a package to somehow grab Parker if they feel they can work a S&T with NY for David Lee?

Parker/ Bayless
Roy/ Rudy
Batum/ Webster
Lee/ Camby/ Cunningham
Camby/ Oden/ Howard/ Pendergraph


Likely would cost Bayless and/or Rudy to get NYK to S&T Lee, as they could use that cap room elsewhere. But, I like this scenario. Would take a lot of winking and nudging to know Lee would go to the Blazers to trade LMA before the free agency period started.
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Re: 'Short' time till the Draft 

Post#115 » by JD45 » Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:47 pm

Fitz303 wrote:
DusterBuster wrote:
DaVoiceMaster wrote:Could Devin Harris be on the outs with Avery Johnson now being the coach?


I seriously doubt it. I remember hearing recently that Harris and Avery actually got along well in Dallas.


No, it was actually quite the opposite. Harris and Johnson didn't get along very well at all. This is a part of a piece from espn insider

Devin Harris and Avery Johnson did not have the best relationship in Dallas, but they now seem to be on the same page.

"We butted heads, we'll probably still butt heads going forward," Harris told the New York Post. "But it's all about winning and that's the only thing we both respect."

Johnson was introduced as the Nets new coach on Tuesday.

"Obviously I would like to have a little more trust on the sideline," Harris said. "I'm at a different point in my career. I think he has learned a lot from his absence in coaching and I think we will be a good fit."


Nope, Avery and Harris were very close. I was in Dallas for all of Harris and Avery's time there. They did clash on how much freedom Harris should have on the court, but they had a father/son type of relationship. Harris was the first public source in New Jersey touting Avery as a coach. Which was no surprise to me.
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Re: 'Short' time till the Draft 

Post#116 » by TBpup » Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:34 pm

Sounds like a third team may be in the picture. Not sure if it is needed to make a certain proposal work or if it just might work out to be a 3-team deal. Not many details shared on this bit so I don't know in this case either.
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Re: 'Short' time till the Draft 

Post#117 » by Norm2953 » Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:37 pm

I'm still very skeptical anything will get accomplished for the forces that seem determined
to fire KP might just veto any moves just so they can have their way. They might view
addition by the subtraction of KP is more important than making any trade.
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Post#118 » by TBpup » Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:48 pm

I'm still very skeptical anything will get accomplished for the forces that seem determined
to fire KP might just veto any moves just so they can have their way. They might view
addition by the subtraction of KP is more important than making any trade.


Norm...I'm inclined to agree with you but I've been assured if Kevin is able to get this worked out and bring it to Paul, it would be something he just couldn't turn down. :pray: I so hope that is the case.
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Post#119 » by d-train » Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:51 pm

Norm2953 wrote:I'm still very skeptical anything will get accomplished for the forces that seem determined
to fire KP might just veto any moves just so they can have their way. They might view
addition by the subtraction of KP is more important than making any trade.

If there are forces that can fire KP, why can't they fire KP and make a trade? Or, why can't they fire KP after he makes a trade?
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Post#120 » by JD45 » Thu Jun 17, 2010 4:00 pm

I like the idea of getting Parker, but there is some real risk.

He has shot the 3 pt better in the past, but recently it has been in-frequent and low percentage. He gets most of his points in the paint. PGs who rely on their quickness are risky in their late 20s. Bigger PGs and better shooters tend to have the longer careers. So this would be a "win now" move.
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