Rumors Surfacing of Houston, Portland, NYK Trade

[GEE]

We have a good draft, getting two good young bigs that play good defense in the paint. We then make a trade for a player that doesn't play defense, scores 15ppg but gives up 20+, doesn't rebound well, has an unmovable contract, and will stunt the growth of our young bigs for the next three years... Awesome. Oh, and we give up our starting SF too... Even better. If he does this...

I SAY, FIRE OLSHEY!!!

[DusterBuster]

I will eat a lot of crow if we trade Harkless for Anderson without getting something good.

Then I will call for NO to be fired.

that reddit thread doesn't have much info, and the thread on the Knicks board is an abomination....

ftfy

[Fitz303]

Have to imagine Portland is involved if it's a 4 team deal. The rumors have been out there for too long. Man I hope this deal gets done (as long as Harkless isn't involved)

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[Oneluckbox]

Have to imagine Portland is involved if it's a 4 team deal. The rumors have been out there for too long. Man I hope this deal gets done (as long as Harkless isn't involved)

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I have a feeling Hark is gone which is super annoying to me. If Blazers are getting rid of Meyers or Turner (BOTH? One can dream lol) then ill be pretty solid with it but yeah here's hoping the Blazers don't get fleeced.

[Goldbum]

Let us pray.

[acidfrehley]

Man, I really hope we get to keep Hark and dump Meyers in a single deal.

[Norm2953]

As the summer league continues on, teams will know more about what they have and perhaps deals like the Melo deal can get done. Portland knows Collins is going to need time and is not ready and they know more about Swanigan so a deal built around freeing up some spots up front might be in order.

[Billy]

I am not interested in being a part of this deal if it winds up being Harkless + Leonard for Anderson. Portland seems to be taking the approach that they aren't going to be competing for a title for a few years, so they need to make some great draft moves and hope they come up with a star. My problem here in this potential deal is that you give up one of only a small handful of good contracts you have to acquire an ugly one that will play in front of your two rookies you're hoping to develop.

If this were Meyers and Turner for Anderson--you do that and figure out how to still get Collins and Swanigan PT. Otherwise, this is just a move that will generate some excitement now, and we'll be back here one year from now discussing how to dump his remaining 41.5 million over the next two years--hopefully not at the cost of dumping another player we'd like to keep.

[BlazersBroncos]

Agreed 100% with Billy.

I view Harkless as considerably move valuable than Ryno. I would, however, have little issue dealing Vonleh. He isn't going to be resigned next season with Zach and Caleb at PF, so while he is a nice talent, it may be best to cash in now.

Turner and Vonleh for Ryno is something I could do. I see ET and Ryno as similar values, but Ryno has a more 'in demand' skillset. And the deal opens time for Zach and Caleb at PF. Something like Ryano for 24mpg, then Aminu if we need to defend small ball PF, and the rest of the PF minutes rotate between the rookies depending on hot hand and/or if we need D or O.

[GEE]

More 3 point shooting and less defense... Exactly what we need.

[Blazers98]

The good news is we are in the drivers seat being the facilitators.
IF we do a deal, then we need to do a deal that is clearly beneficial for us.
Harkless and Meyers for Rino -not good for us.
Turner and Meyers for Rino-heck yea.
Harkless and Myers for Rino and HOU 1st rounder- maybe?
Houston won't have a high 1st rounder but still might make it worth while.

[Blazers98]

With the Raps trading Carroll, a 1st and a second round pick to attain Hamilton, the market is really hard to unload bad contracts. I think more and more that we are just stuck for at least 2 more years. Please Turner, start practicing your 3 ball! If he could shoot like Crabbe, he would be a decent contract.

Yeah and even if he could shoot 10 percent lower than crabbe From 3 he'd seem far less overpaid than he does shooting sub 30 %

Yea, when we signed Turner for that outrageous contract that was simply much much more than ANYBODY else would dream of offering him, I still tried to think that if Turner could develop his 3 pointer, then it wouldn't be a terrible contract. He shot 26% from 3 point land last year Terrible contract.

[HoopsFanAZ]

Having Anderson + Turner + Crabbe on the Blazers at the same time violates several laws having to do with human rights for Blazers fans ... or should be. As for other variations on the trade ... sure.

Watching Anderson get a pass and go right up from 3 -- no hesitation -- shows a guy who wants the rock. 30 minutes of playing time this year can be available at PF since absolutely no one has claimed those minutes since Aldridge left town. If they earn their minutes, Collins and Swanigan will get some.

[Fitz303]

This is an article that Woj just posted. If that doesn't sound like Meyers Leonard, then I don't know what does....

No deal was imminent Wednesday, but the Knicks and Rockets are confident that they have a willing third-team trade partner incorporated into the framework, the sources said.

The fourth team was needed to move a particular player contract that neither the Knicks nor Rockets could or would accept in the deal, league sources said.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19972743/new-york-knicks-houston-rockets-working-multiple-carmelo-anthony-trade-scenarios

[Goldbum]

Sure feels like NY has been hot for Moe for awhile...

[BlazersBroncos]

Giving up Mo for Ryan Anderson is just a laughably bad move. Even if it means Myers is dumped.

Its easy. Turner? Yes. Crabbe? Maybe. Mo? No.

[Wizenheimer]

This is an article that Woj just posted. If that doesn't sound like Meyers Leonard, then I don't know what does....

No deal was imminent Wednesday, but the Knicks and Rockets are confident that they have a willing third-team trade partner incorporated into the framework, the sources said.

The fourth team was needed to move a particular player contract that neither the Knicks nor Rockets could or would accept in the deal, league sources said.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19972743/new-york-knicks-houston-rockets-working-multiple-carmelo-anthony-trade-scenarios

yeah...I think that's likely the hangup....finding a team that will take Meyers and coming up with the incentive for doing so

The good news is we are in the drivers seat being the facilitators.
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if Portland is involved and moving Meyers is the problem, Blazers are not in any "driver's seat"....the three teams that allegedly want the deal have to come up with the price of dumping Meyers, so it would be likely some shared burden

teams were rumored to have asked for two firsts to absorb Anderson's contract. It says something about Portland if they are willing to take that contract without getting a first and giving up a comparable player as well....it sure doesn't say anything good afaic

Hark + Meyers for Anderson would be a crap trade. Portland's defense would suffer and we get to see more of Turner and Aminu pounding the ball and hurling bricks...oh joy; and between Crabbe and Anderson, the Blazers would be paying 40M a year for a pair of one-dimensional players that both live in the same dimension...more joy

at this point, short of hearing something different, my fingers are crossed that this trade will crash and burn

[Butter]

Where is TBPup when we need him?

[TBpup]

Where is TBPup when we need him?

He is very busy with investment work. I have been in touch with a contact back East who is much closer to the Nets than to the Knicks but still has been a good source of information. He said that if Portland was interested in just Anderson, the deal would have been done long ago. They don't feel like getting him does anything to alleviate their cap situation and would rather have 2 smaller bad contracts than 1 bigger one.

He thinks the Blazers might do something like that if draft picks or similar asset were included. He thinks the Knicks want Harkless and Portland doesn't want to give him up. The search for a 4th team is because there are some pieces that no one is interested in and they have to find another way to make it work which is why it is taking so long.

From the discussion, I don't hold out much hope that there is anything that happens very much in Portland's favor and that we might not like what eventually happens.

[TBpup]

FWIW, Mo's Twitter account has been cleared and all that is left is a NY skyline and a little kid wearing Knicks colors.