Trade Thread

[Roy The Natural]

I can't see Portland doing anything at the trade deadline for the team is playing well and won't
do anything to upset Dame. If there is anything that will happen with Whiteside, it will be
something prior to the draft where Portland facilitate a move to another team.

Portland has to be realistic about where they are for while they are playing well, they are still
four games under .500 and would be heavy underdogs to the Lakers. Their priorities have not
changed for long term health of Nurk and Zach along with adding another solid young player
up front for Ariza is 35.

This is the issue. Your second paragraph is in DIRECT conflict with your first. Portland shouldn't lose sight of where they are, and their chances. No moving Whiteside is a terrible move for the future of the franchise. Even moving Whiteside for Batum and a 2nd round pick is preferable to keeping Whiteside for the future of the franchise over the next 2-3 years.

Realistically there likely is no real path for a Whiteside trade that would yield a meaningful young talent at the
trade deadline. Their likely course of action will be to play out their hand unless they simply settle for cap
relief which would really infuriate Dame. It's not likely SA will agree to trading LA unless Portland offered up
a FRP and its not likely Minnesota will trade Covington unless Portland once again overpaid.

Prior to the draft, Portland can look over their options for let's say Whiteside has a big last half of the season.
The market for bigs is deep and few teams have any cap space and though unlikely, Portland could opt to keep
Whiteside and move Nurk if that's what Dame wants. I wouldn't view Batum +2 as meaningful for I'd rather Portland
let Whiteside walk for that Nic would have to be nuts to decline a $27 Million option for 20/21.

Portland can ABSOLUTELY bring back meaningful talent. They have plenty of assets to attach to Whiteside's contract.

[Showdown]

I am sure that it was NO's plan from the beginning, get Whiteside for two EC's , use excuse that Blazers can't get anything meaningful by using injury or age of some of the potential trade targets altough it was obvious that trading two smaller EC's is much easier , then give him 3 year 15+ milions per year contract at the end of the year and then use his contract as excuse why Whiteside needs to play as starter next year. He would do the same thing with M.Gasol/Howard/Cousins if he failed to get Whiteside last summer.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Why don't you all just attach something to Whiteside and trade him for Drummond? I love Nurkic, but you don't know how healthy he's going to be coming back this year, or even next year - you can't bank on him for anything. Drummond has faults, but you'd hope that, like Kanter, the environment and system could focus him, and he's way more explosive than Whiteside horizontally and vertically.. At this point it seems like Detroit mostly wants to get out of Drummond's contract and is worried he'll opt in..

[red_power]

The tax situation makes sort of trade almost inevitable and I personally doubt Hood will last long on this team's roster.

Nevertheless Skal could be on his way out too..

[Waynearchetype]

I really hope they don't trade Skal. Got more hope for him than Collins. Hood is rough. It would be smart to send him and a 2nd out, but I'm not sure its good business to have a guy sign for less money, get hurt then cut ties. I think Olshey values agents/players opinions too much for that.

[DaVoiceMaster]

I really hope they don't trade Skal. Got more hope for him than Collins. Hood is rough. It would be smart to send him and a 2nd out, but I'm not sure its good business to have a guy sign for less money, get hurt then cut ties. I think Olshey values agents/players opinions too much for that.

Agreed. I see him as the backup PF/C in the future. Having said that, I would not hesitate to include him in a trade that brings us the better player. If necessary, I'd send him to Minnesota with Whiteside and Simon's to get Dieng, Covington, and Napier.

[Wizenheimer]

I've never believed Portland traded for Whiteside with the idea they were going to turn around and trade him again before the deadline. The priority was getting a competent starting C after Kanter turned them down. It's pretty clear Portland knew Nurkic was going to be out till around the all-star break

and I also believe Portland has every intention of NOT being a tax team next season. That limits any possible Whiteside deals because Portland simply doesn't have much margin between what they have guaranteed next year, and the tax line. Those aren't absolute intentions, but any possible deals have to include a path to staying out of repeater tax

all that said, if some no-brainer deal for Whiteside came along that brought a massive upgrade somewhere in the rotation, Portland would probably make a move. But I'd bet the Blazers are reluctant to attach any assets to move Whiteside. They might refuse to do so in fact

I don't like Olshey at all, but I have repeatedly given him credit for being a master at bargain hunting. Being johnny-on-the-spot when some team is willing to dump a player for next to nothing. He did it again with the Ariza trade. He was able to cut the tax bill in half (a tax bill his 2016 dumbness was responsible for), and he got two things: an upgrade at SF that include some actual length on the perimeter; and an option to keep Ariza next season and have a very trade-able expiring contract. Pretty safe to say that Hood is likely to be a shell of himself next season and the Blazers will need a starting level SF. I think that trade ratchets the pressure way down for making other moves

trading Whiteside right now would be a slap in the face to Dame and what he's been doing for the team this season

[BlazersBroncos]

I know that Neil is near dogmatic in his instance to not have a backup PG, but I hope something changes and he uses the Hood exception or one of the TPE's to bring in an underused guy. We just need someone for 10-12 minutes that can initiate the offense.

Even someone like Raul Neto or Ryan Arcidiacono would be nice. We could cut Mario to make the room since our F rotation suddenly has decent (Albeit unspectacular) depth.

[DusterBuster]

Agreed with Wizenheimer. I think the chances of trading Whiteside were entirely dependant on the teams success. Up until probably 2 weeks ago, that chance may have been higher, but I would put it near zero at this point less - as Wiz mentioned - some no-brainer deal comes along.

All in all, I think the Blazers are in for a quiet trade deadline and already made their deadline deal a bit ago with Ariza. I've been critical of Olshey's wiffs this summer for filling out the roster, but he made a great deal for Ariza by pinpointing that it wasn't his skills suddenly falling off a cliff, but just him being in a terrible position.

[Myth]

I just threw this out on the trade board in a thread, but what about a Porzingis for CJ/Zach based trade?

[Khazim]

I just threw this out on the trade board in a thread, but what about a Porzingis for CJ/Zach based trade?

No, thank you. I get it from a talent/skill fit standpoint a little bit. But from an injury and personality standpoint, that's a serious hardpass from me.

[BlazersBroncos]

I would make that trade for Zinger pretty quickly. I think he and Nurkic would be an absolutely elite defensive duo. I would want a G back. Delon Wright would make our starting lineup elite defensively.

Doesn't matter b/c Dallas isn't looking to move him.

[DaVoiceMaster]

Why does Dallas make that trade?

[d-train]

Why does Dallas make that trade?

Blazers don't do that deal, so it doesn't matter what Mavs want.

[Roy The Natural]

I'm going to be PISSED if the Blazers don't do something of significance at the deadline. I shouldn't have to explain how awful keeping Whiteside through the deadline is for this team going forward. But quite simply, not making a move with Whiteside's contract at the deadline is unacceptable.

[Norm2953]

I'm going to be PISSED if the Blazers don't do something of significance at the deadline. I shouldn't have to explain how awful keeping Whiteside through the deadline is for this team going forward. But quite simply, not making a move with Whiteside's contract at the deadline is unacceptable.

The market for Whiteside however just doesn't seem to be there unless the team sacrifices themselves financially
by taking on Love or another big contract. Merely getting out of taxes would likely enrage Dame but I wonder if
Portland can get involved in the rumored 3-4 way deal that would send Dlo to Minnesota.

[Roy The Natural]

I'm going to be PISSED if the Blazers don't do something of significance at the deadline. I shouldn't have to explain how awful keeping Whiteside through the deadline is for this team going forward. But quite simply, not making a move with Whiteside's contract at the deadline is unacceptable.

The market for Whiteside however just doesn't seem to be there unless the team sacrifices themselves financially
by taking on Love or another big contract. Merely getting out of taxes would likely enrage Dame but I wonder if
Portland can get involved in the rumored 3-4 way deal that would send Dlo to Minnesota.

I'd honestly do Whiteside for Batum and 2 seconds. That's better than nothing. And it gives us Batum's expiring next year when all the NBA is scrambling to prepare for the 2021 free agent class. ANYTHING is better than burying our heads in the sand and getting nothing out of these expirings.

[deanwoof]

Looks like Covington isn't coming. Because of course not. I haven't seen all the details but Atlanta turned Evan turner into capella and Nene. We turned Evan turner into .. Ariza?

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[d-train]

I would have traded Covington for Beasley too. T-pups make what looks like a good trade. I don't see what Rockets get out of this trade.

[d-train]

Rockets must have another deal to get a center.