Twitter Trade Rumor Roundup

[Norm2953]

Brown is 26. Portland might still sign Jerami Grant and have Scoot, Simons and Sharpe in their BC with Nurk at center. If they could add another big body, that might be a playoff team

[DusterBuster]

Brown is 26. Portland might still sign Jerami Grant and have Scoot, Simons and Sharpe in their BC with Nurk at center. If they could add another big body, that might be a playoff team

Why would Brown want to be in Portland without Dame? He’s a FA after one season, outside of money, why would he resign in Portland with Grant, a rookie and a second year player?

[Case2012]

Brown is 26. Portland might still sign Jerami Grant and have Scoot, Simons and Sharpe in their BC with Nurk at center. If they could add another big body, that might be a playoff team

Why would Brown want to be in Portland without Dame? He’s a FA after one season, outside of money, why would he resign in Portland with Grant, a rookie and a second year player?

I don't like discussing Dame trades, it feels blasphemous. I'm severely disappointed by virtually everyone in here casually discussing trading away the most loyal and talented player we've ever had like the last 10 years meant nothing to them. I understand that the team isn't the Damian Lillard show, it's the blazers, but still... Gross.

Having said that, IF we did trade Dame for Brown+ we'd still have Scoot, Sharpe and Simons to make a move for another "win now" player that better complements Brown and makes sense for his age.

Maybe Scoot, Sharpe and Simons plus whatever firsts for Luka? There's been rumblings of him wanting out with the moves the Mavs have Made. I know how much everyone values Sharpe but Luka is 24 and... Actually I don't need to justify wanting to trade for Luka. Let Grant walk and use the cap space to force the Lakers to match Reeves or not.

Luka (24)
Brown (26)
Reeves? (24) Lakers probably match but still.

I think that's an interesting core. About the same age. Extremely competitive guys and would be a contender right way.

Pairing Luka and Brown would probably be the only way I live with trading Dame.

Dallas would have a new young core of Scoot, Sharpe and Simons plus their own lottery pick. They could sign and trade kyrie for a few assets as well. I don't think Luka and kyrie is gonna work out but they can't let him walk for nothing either so maybe just rebuilding is the best option. How much better can they get by simply trading their pick?

[Sinobas]

Dame himself insinuated that he may ask for a trade if we don't get a veteran team. Which means trading the #3 for an established star. So if that does not materialize, we're probably trading Dame. But it would be out of his own request.

[PDXKnight]

Brown is 26. Portland might still sign Jerami Grant and have Scoot, Simons and Sharpe in their BC with Nurk at center. If they could add another big body, that might be a playoff team

Why would Brown want to be in Portland without Dame? He’s a FA after one season, outside of money, why would he resign in Portland with Grant, a rookie and a second year player?

I don't like discussing Dame trades, it feels blasphemous. I'm severely disappointed by virtually everyone in here casually discussing trading away the most loyal and talented player we've ever had like the last 10 years meant nothing to them. I understand that the team isn't the Damian Lillard show, it's the blazers, but still... Gross.

Having said that, IF we did trade Dame for Brown+ we'd still have Scoot, Sharpe and Simons to make a move for another "win now" player that better complements Brown and makes sense for his age.

Maybe Scoot, Sharpe and Simons plus whatever firsts for Luka? There's been rumblings of him wanting out with the moves the Mavs have Made. I know how much everyone values Sharpe but Luka is 24 and... Actually I don't need to justify wanting to trade for Luka. Let Grant walk and use the cap space to force the Lakers to match Reeves or not.

Luka (24)
Brown (26)
Reeves? (24) Lakers probably match but still.

I think that's an interesting core. About the same age. Extremely competitive guys and would be a contender right way.

Pairing Luka and Brown would probably be the only way I live with trading Dame.

Dallas would have a new young core of Scoot, Sharpe and Simons plus their own lottery pick. They could sign and trade kyrie for a few assets as well. I don't think Luka and kyrie is gonna work out but they can't let him walk for nothing either so maybe just rebuilding is the best option. How much better can they get by simply trading their pick?

Watching Luka and dame try to fight for who Jacks up the most shots would be painful lol

[Village Idiot]

Brown is 26. Portland might still sign Jerami Grant and have Scoot, Simons and Sharpe in their BC with Nurk at center. If they could add another big body, that might be a playoff team

Why would Brown want to be in Portland without Dame? He’s a FA after one season, outside of money, why would he resign in Portland with Grant, a rookie and a second year player?

My preference is to re-route Brown to Atlanta and in return receive:

Onyeka Okungwu - rapidly emerging as an elite defender who excels switching onto guards. Stuck backing up Capela since Trae Young prefers Clint. 22 y/o on a cheap deal. Decent offense but nothing special

Dejounte Murray - 26 year-old, defensive oriented, combo guard from Seattle. On an ending contract but can be extended. Hasn't worked out alongside Trae Young

Danilo Gallinari - on an ending deal

#15 pick

[DusterBuster]

Not Twitter, but Bill Simmons spent a good chunk of his show Monday discussing Ant and 3 for Brown after The Celtics went down 0-3. Around the 45min mark

[Norm2953]

Brown is 26. Portland might still sign Jerami Grant and have Scoot, Simons and Sharpe in their BC with Nurk at center. If they could add another big body, that might be a playoff team

Why would Brown want to be in Portland without Dame? He’s a FA after one season, outside of money, why would he resign in Portland with Grant, a rookie and a second year player?

I don't like discussing Dame trades, it feels blasphemous. I'm severely disappointed by virtually everyone in here casually discussing trading away the most loyal and talented player we've ever had like the last 10 years meant nothing to them. I understand that the team isn't the Damian Lillard show, it's the blazers, but still... Gross.

Having said that, IF we did trade Dame for Brown+ we'd still have Scoot, Sharpe and Simons to make a move for another "win now" player that better complements Brown and makes sense for his age.

Maybe Scoot, Sharpe and Simons plus whatever firsts for Luka? There's been rumblings of him wanting out with the moves the Mavs have Made. I know how much everyone values Sharpe but Luka is 24 and... Actually I don't need to justify wanting to trade for Luka. Let Grant walk and use the cap space to force the Lakers to match Reeves or not.

Luka (24)
Brown (26)
Reeves? (24) Lakers probably match but still.

I think that's an interesting core. About the same age. Extremely competitive guys and would be a contender right way.

Pairing Luka and Brown would probably be the only way I live with trading Dame.

Dallas would have a new young core of Scoot, Sharpe and Simons plus their own lottery pick. They could sign and trade kyrie for a few assets as well. I don't think Luka and kyrie is gonna work out but they can't let him walk for nothing either so maybe just rebuilding is the best option. How much better can they get by simply trading their pick?

C'mon now, Luka is one of the 5-6 players in the league who would really make a difference for any team
(Giannis, Joel, Nikola, Victor, Luka and either Jayson or SGA). All the other guys who make 1-2 all NBA like
Dame/Steph, Lebron are less valuable given their age/injuries.

Its unlikely any of those guys are available at any price, especially with the upcoming second tax apron
in the new CBA, which is designed to keep teams from over-spending.

All these win now scenarios you advocate aren't going to happen for Portland already with Dame, Nurk, Ant
and likely a handshake deal with Grant, already has $120 Million tied up in 4 players, which means
Portland can't do most of the Ant + 3 deals unless its for Bridges who also is unlikely to be moved
given his age/contract.

It's not blasphemous but simply sports business. Guys come/go all the time for the remember how many times
Steve Blake came/went. Clyde Drexler put in as much time in Portland as Dame and when his time came,
Portland took care of him by sending him where he wanted to play. When Dame's time comes, Portland
will send him where he wants to go to compete for titles, for after losing out on Victor, there is no
win now move that can suddenly vault Portland into contention, unless Portland decides to place themselves
in with the LAC, GSW who are both facing cutting salaries with the second tax apron looming.

Its likely the return for Dame will be underwhelming and I fully understand Brown may not want to be
in Portland without Dame. It may be possible to get Brown from Boston without sending out Dame, but
its highly unlikely anyone can sell Brown as a win now piece.

[Norm2953]

Not Twitter, but Bill Simmons spent a good chunk of his show Monday discussing Ant and 3 for Brown after The Celtics went down 0-3. Around the 45min mark

That's a proposal the Boston board has proposed.

Portland would have to extend Brown at 140% of his salary, and he'd be very unhappy, since he seems to
want a supermax extension from the Celtics.

Once again, I don't know anyone can sell Brown as a win now piece for the Celtics with a better team in
place than Portland, just flamed out in the ECF. Seems nuts to take on the task of extending Brown unless
the team reneges on their handshake deal with Grant.

Dame, Brown, Sharpe and Nurk core is hardly a core that could reach the WCF and quite possibly not
get past the first round of the playoffs.

[DusterBuster]

Not Twitter, but Bill Simmons spent a good chunk of his show Monday discussing Ant and 3 for Brown after The Celtics went down 0-3. Around the 45min mark

That's a proposal the Boston board has proposed.

Portland would have to extend Brown at 140% of his salary, and he'd be very unhappy, since he seems to
want a supermax extension from the Celtics.

Once again, I don't know anyone can sell Brown as a win now piece for the Celtics with a better team in
place than Portland, just flamed out in the ECF. Seems nuts to take on the task of extending Brown unless
the team reneges on their handshake deal with Grant.

Dame, Brown, Sharpe and Nurk core is hardly a core that could reach the WCF and quite possibly not
get past the first round of the playoffs.

Not sure why everyone thinks these are one and done deals and no other moves would be made to complete a roster.

[BlazersBroncos]

I am not sure on Brown - he has such a poor handle, really bad court vision and is like a diet Kyrie in many of his beliefs.

I still think simply moving Simons for DDR and keeping the 3 for a blue chipper is the way to go.

[Norm2953]

Not Twitter, but Bill Simmons spent a good chunk of his show Monday discussing Ant and 3 for Brown after The Celtics went down 0-3. Around the 45min mark

That's a proposal the Boston board has proposed.

Portland would have to extend Brown at 140% of his salary, and he'd be very unhappy, since he seems to
want a supermax extension from the Celtics.

Once again, I don't know anyone can sell Brown as a win now piece for the Celtics with a better team in
place than Portland, just flamed out in the ECF. Seems nuts to take on the task of extending Brown unless
the team reneges on their handshake deal with Grant.

Dame, Brown, Sharpe and Nurk core is hardly a core that could reach the WCF and quite possibly not
get past the first round of the playoffs.

Not sure why everyone thinks these are one and done deals and no other moves would be made to complete a roster.

I really dislike most of the one and done moves, for the cost of the extensions just prices out the move for Portland.

Trading for DDR doesn't really accomplish much and if Dame in the end, eventually asks out, the pick owed
to Chicago doesn't matter for it conveys whenever Portland reaches the playoffs.

Historically every Portland contending team was built via the draft with an occasional final piece trade
such as the Buck Williams trade. Portland after this draft, is about half way done with a rebuild for Sharpe
and Scoot is a solid start. Team still needs to draft one of the 7-1 guys that will be in next years draft and
then allow those guys to develop together before they are a playoff contender.

[BlazersBroncos]

Trading for DDR doesn't really accomplish much and if Dame in the end, eventually asks out, the pick owed
to Chicago doesn't matter for it conveys whenever Portland reaches the playoffs.

I dont understand this. No, DDR doesnt put us into contention - but he makes the team markedly better. A secondary playmaker / facilitator with size and the ability to draw fouls would be huge for us. He would be like Batum but w/ worse defense and a tradeoff of FTA for 3PT.

Also, by all advanced metrics DDR, Pascal and Brown are not far off in on-court impact - even defensive metrics have DDR above Pascal and Brown - and none are quality 3PT shooters (DDR .32% - Brown - .33% - Pascal .32%).

I just cant be talked into taking the road of moving #3 for Pascal or Brown when a player with similar metrics but overall slightly worse would almost certainly be available for a far, far lower cost.

[Pattycakes]

I like Jaylen in general but to me the 3 and Ant have more value to our organization currently - esp with JB due an extension that he may or may not even want to sign here. I’m leaning he wouldn’t

[DusterBuster]

Trading for DDR doesn't really accomplish much and if Dame in the end, eventually asks out, the pick owed
to Chicago doesn't matter for it conveys whenever Portland reaches the playoffs.

I dont understand this. No, DDR doesnt put us into contention - but he makes the team markedly better. A secondary playmaker / facilitator with size and the ability to draw fouls would be huge for us. He would be like Batum but w/ worse defense and a tradeoff of FTA for 3PT.

Also, by all advanced metrics DDR, Pascal and Brown are not far off in on-court impact - even defensive metrics have DDR above Pascal and Brown - and none are quality 3PT shooters (DDR .32% - Brown - .33% - Pascal .32%).

I just cant be talked into taking the road of moving #3 for Pascal or Brown when a player with similar metrics but overall slightly worse would almost certainly be available for a far, far lower cost.

I definitely feel like a lot of people on this board disregard good players that would make the team a playoff contender right away like DDR would. If they could get him for a reasonable price, he would absolutely be a huge get and a great fit next to Dame because their games complement each other really well. Would it make the Blazers a "contender", on paper no, but I also contend that wayyyyy too many people on here seem to think they obviously know what makes a "contender". If you get into the playoffs and go on a run, anything can happen. Pair Dame with another 25ppg player and see what happens! The last time Dame played with a true All Star next to him with Aldridge, the team was considered a real contender for a title before Matthews went down.

[DusterBuster]

I like Jaylen in general but to me the 3 and Ant have more value to our organization currently - esp with JB due an extension that he may or may not even want to sign here. I’m leaning he wouldn’t

Again, I would assume the Blazers only do a JB trade with a guarantee he's extending.

[tester551]

Brown is 26. Portland might still sign Jerami Grant and have Scoot, Simons and Sharpe in their BC with Nurk at center. If they could add another big body, that might be a playoff team

Why would Brown want to be in Portland without Dame? He’s a FA after one season, outside of money, why would he resign in Portland with Grant, a rookie and a second year player?

My preference is to re-route Brown to Atlanta and in return receive:

Onyeka Okungwu - rapidly emerging as an elite defender who excels switching onto guards. Stuck backing up Capela since Trae Young prefers Clint. 22 y/o on a cheap deal. Decent offense but nothing special

Dejounte Murray - 26 year-old, defensive oriented, combo guard from Seattle. On an ending contract but can be extended. Hasn't worked out alongside Trae Young

Danilo Gallinari - on an ending deal

#15 pick

I agree. But I'm not sure Portland could net all that.

[zzaj]

Trading for DDR doesn't really accomplish much and if Dame in the end, eventually asks out, the pick owed
to Chicago doesn't matter for it conveys whenever Portland reaches the playoffs.

I dont understand this. No, DDR doesnt put us into contention - but he makes the team markedly better. A secondary playmaker / facilitator with size and the ability to draw fouls would be huge for us. He would be like Batum but w/ worse defense and a tradeoff of FTA for 3PT.

Also, by all advanced metrics DDR, Pascal and Brown are not far off in on-court impact - even defensive metrics have DDR above Pascal and Brown - and none are quality 3PT shooters (DDR .32% - Brown - .33% - Pascal .32%).

I just cant be talked into taking the road of moving #3 for Pascal or Brown when a player with similar metrics but overall slightly worse would almost certainly be available for a far, far lower cost.

Yeah, I'm with you on this, BBroncos. I think that the upgrade from Simons to DDR would actually be pretty substantial, and for the cost Brown just doesn't make sense. That's one of those moves that feels like after 8 years everyone will look back on and say, "Blazers gave up Simons AND ___________ (#3) just to get Jaylen Brown?!"

I'm also a pretty firm believer that should the Blazers trade the #3, they HAVE to split up Simons and #3 to maximize the benefit. If there were a "contender maker" that could be had with them together, fine trade them together...but there is not. So Package Simons/#3 or Nurk/#3 or Simons/Nurk, whatever...but the Blazers need to bring in two very good players with those assets since there isn't going to be 1 contender maker available.

I'm also still interested in the Blazers adding another pick in that 5-9 range, too. I think this draft class's lotto is going to be the best one we've seen in quite a few years.

[ArthurVandelay]

Can any Blazer season ticket holder verify this email?

Read on Twitter

A lot of effort being put into rebuilding the Blazers by their fans but, if this email is true, it really and truly appears Dame is sticking around for the foreseeable future.

[zzaj]

Can any Blazer season ticket holder verify this email?

Read on Twitter

A lot of effort being put into rebuilding the Blazers by their fans but, if this email is true, it really and truly appears Dame is sticking around for the foreseeable future.

I can't verify it, but even if it is true it doesn't mean much...certainly nothing 'really and truly'. The Blazers are going to do everything they can to get butts in seats and Lillard is the main attraction for potential season ticket holders and casual fans--they are going to sell that angle no matter what. Even if the plan is to trade Lillard, why would the org let fans and season ticket holders know that?