nj + pdx + dallas

[SoHo]

The Truehoop blog over at ESPN has some interesting analysis on the rumored trade

He talks about how Harris might fit in our offense as well as why our roster situation makes it make sense. Of course he also talks about how terrible it could be for us if Harris didn't meet expectations and Outlaw continued to blow up.

[ppp000]

Like I said Portland is high on Outlaw, Mavs are high on Harris. Besides this rumor going around, there are others that do not include Harris or Portland. In any case, the Mavs are not going to make any rash moves to lose Harris and depth when PG is not an an area of weakness for them to warrant such a big change.

And even IF the mavs were shopping Harris for Kidd, which by Dallas accounts they are NOT, I don't see the need for Portland to be involved in this deal when you guys have a nice young core.

[Butter]

Like I said Portland is high on Outlaw, Mavs are high on Harris. Besides this rumor going around, there are others that do not include Harris or Portland. In any case, the Mavs are not going to make any rash moves to lose Harris and depth when PG is not an an area of weakness for them to warrant such a big change.

And even IF the mavs were shopping Harris for Kidd, which by Dallas accounts they are NOT, I don't see the need for Portland to be involved in this deal when you guys have a nice young core.

Agreed. The Blazers should either deal straight with NJ or pass on the trade completely.

[DeezXXnutZ]

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Agreed. The Blazers should either deal straight with NJ or pass on the trade completely.

Even if we are going for Kidd I don't feel Outlaw will be on the table..Martell is the trade piece in my mind....

[Fitz303]

If there is ANY way of getting Harris without giving up Roy, LMA, Oden, or Outlaw, KP would be an idiot not to take it. I would take back Dampiers ridiculous contract if it meant getting Harris. The kids numbers do him no justice. He is a VERY good player (also a great character guy) and if giving up Webster, Jack, and a 1st rd pick would bring him in, I hope KP would sign without a second thought

[Butter]

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Even if we are going for Kidd I don't feel Outlaw will be on the table..Martell is the trade piece in my mind....

I have no idea if the Blazers are even interested in dealing with anyone right now, but I can't really see a good reason to bring in Harris when the Blazers have so many young PG's with potential to be solid starters in this league.

If the Blazers were to make a deal, I'd much rather see Kidd playing for this year and next, expire, and leave the Blazer with a significant cap space. In that span, they would hopefully be able to identify if any of their current PG's are going to be able to step up, or if they need to make a run at a different PG with all of that $$$.

[Norm2953]

I'd like to know how everyone thinks Devon Harris would fit with
Portland if the trade somehow comes down?

I'm not totally unopposed to the deal if it yields us a serious
upgrade at a spot we could use an upgrade (PG). Four months
ago, we would have jumped at moving Outlaw, Frye and JJ
for Harris but I'd be uncomfortable losing Frye and Outlaw
from our front court.

[Billy]

If ESPN grows the cajones to put something on the main page of their site that isn't an insider article we may have something.

[Ripcity4life]

I am 99% sure the trade as laid out by that Paper and reported on ESPN does not even pass the Trade checker test. this being the case the ONLY thing that MIGHT be true is that either NJ or Dallas was/is trying to get the Blazers involved. Everything after that is complete and utter GARBAGE.

Let's not even mention the fact that it makes NO sense for the Blazers to pull the trigger. I believe its getting close to time to LOCK this SILLY/STUPID/IDIOTIC Thread, pick your word it fits.


NEXT TOPIC ............

[mojomarc]

If ESPN grows the cajones to put something on the main page of their site that isn't an insider article we may have something.

There's nothing on Insider that we haven't already discussed in this thread.

[Dakotah612]

Failed Trade Scenario
Sorry, but this trade does not work.

There were BYC players involved in this trade, so this trade is subject to the BYC provisions of the CBA. Due to New Jersey, Dallas and Portland being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. New Jersey, Dallas and Portland had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did not happen here (only New Jersey met the condition). This trade does not satisfy the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

Trade ID #4452796

[Dakotah612]

Devin Harris fits our system and complements Brandon Roy to a T. He can score, pass, and defend. However, this deal overpaying for him by A LOT.

[Pugsley_2491]

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-2 ... -Fun-.html

interesting take on the situation from Pritchard's perspective.

[Billy]

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There's nothing on Insider that we haven't already discussed in this thread.

I know. I was commenting on the fact that ESPN is doing "teasers" for a possible trade. Unless they are willing to put it in black and white I don't think they have anything worth reporting yet. That's all I'm sayin

[SaintofKillers]

He's a point guard on a very good offensive team with guys like Stackhouse and Dirk to pass to, and he can't even average more assists than Brandon does?

Harris is not a PG. His value lies in his ability to get to the rim at will (although saying it's top 10 material is an overstatement of epic proportions) and provide elite-level perimeter defense, provided its coupled with a big man that can defend pick-and-rolls.

His downside is that his jump shot goes from non-existent to spotty, reacts to every foul call like he's been accused of raping a chinchilla, and has the playmaking skills of Andrew Declerq.

So you got to weight which is more important to you.

If Devin Harris is all that - then why do the Mavericks need Jason Kidd?

Our core is approaching, or are already in their 30s; the championship window is closing. If you can get the best point guard in the league then you do it.

[ppp000]

If the Mavs really were willing to give up Harris, why the need for a third team to be involved? Why not just a simple Harris+filler+crap for Kidd.

I don't see much incentive for Portland in this. Probably b/c this rumor is bogus.

[SaintofKillers]

If the Mavs really were willing to give up Harris, why the need for a third team to be involved? Why not just a simple Harris+filler+crap for Kidd.

Bingo, which is why I think this rumor is bogus. It also doesn't jive with Cuban's over-the-top "crack dealer" response.

[Billy]

Don't know if this has been posted, but this is an article from Adrian Wojnarowski:

Link

If so I'm sorry and I must've missed it.

Normally I wouldn't give this guy the time of day, but he did also report this completely far fetched deal shortly before the draft:

Link

[abuzz]

Lucky Charms bought me to my senses and to pay attention to the postings that appear like airports ':wink:'

Ten pages too. ':oops:'

Here is more to the rumor mill.


http://www.protrade.com/content/Display ... 6376561661

[Wizenheimer]

all these different 'sources' reporting the same ridiculous trade.

Here's what I think it is: this is basically BS put out by NJ's FO to try and drive Kidd's price up.

I guess another way to put it would be to say it's a lie