Walton1one wrote:tester551 wrote:Butter wrote:
ID bet it's down to Simon's and Sexton
Magic fans think they're in the running for Cam Johnson.
Also a few think they might target Tre Jones.
Yeah, ORL just does not seem to be that interested in Simons, kind of chasing every player but him. Makes you wonder if they have had discussions with Cronin and the asking price is ridiculous, so they have moved on. If Cronin wanted (2) 1st's for example or a 1st & Black, then ORL is right to move on, better off spending those (2) 1st's on Cam Johnson, who is a better player on a better contract.
Even Sexton's stats are better than Simons this year:
18.7ppg 47.8% FG - 41.4% 3ptFG
Simons is, 18.2ppg 42.4% FG - 36.9% 3ptFG%
I think it could be that rumors are true about Cronin, he sets unrealistic prices on his players and refuses to move off them. Hope I am wrong, but certainly doesn't appear to be the case so far.
Orlando fans have been pretty adamant that their FO wants and focuses on 2-way and defensive minded players and their roster moves have generally reflected this, going for guards like Black and Suggs when better offensive options were available. So I can buy the theory that they just simply aren't real interested in Simons, unless maybe we legit just give him away (and some folks here would be more than happy to do so.)
No idea regarding Cronin, he doesn't seem to be real pro-active moving players which is a major problem for where we currently sit. In theory setting the starting price high is not a bad negotiating strategy, but it cannot be so high that you prevent yourself from making moves.
There is often sometimes other context to consider, the Lakers trade with Grant is a good example, the second pick was asked for because we would have to eat bad salary and waive like 3-4 of our young players and so wanted compensation for that. Maybe we should have done that, trade Grant, waive a bunch of young players, and eat useless 2-3 year contracts all for a single measly Lakers pick that was probably protected anyways, but I can see where the juice wasn't worth the squeeze from them without a second pick in that scenario. I know I don't value Laker picks very highly and the Luka trade shows exactly why. But of course when rumors leak they don't mention all the secondary costs Portland would incur for a Grant for 1 first round pick, they just say Portland wants 2 picks for Grant and not Portland wants a protected pick for Grant and a protected pick for waiving players and eating useless contracts, which is still maybe too much to ask but not quite as unreasonable in that context. But I am generally a bit skeptical of how trades leak to the fans, big market teams seem to be much better at getting their narrative out there.
But regardless, results matter more than excuses. I can buy a trade or two falling apart because the other team asks for too much and gives too little but when it happens time and time again then there is a problem to be addressed. He has a couple days but if all 3 of the players in this thread post are still on the team post the deadline no quarter should be given.
