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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#1041 » by Fitz303 » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:08 pm

I agree with Quick on these.. Much like how nobody had any clue that Aminu was our target last year at midnight, I don't think anybody really knows who we're going to talk to this year at midnight. Here's hoping it's Whiteside or Howard (Horford pipe dream).

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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#1042 » by DusterBuster » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:12 pm

It's probably a good thing Olshey keeps things as quiet as he does, but annoying as a fan who's desperate for some news.

Who knows with Canzano's tweet. Probably more likely just a play for him to get listeners to tune into the BFT than anything serious, but with it being a desert for information right now.... who knows.
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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#1043 » by Fitz303 » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:18 pm

DusterBuster wrote:It's probably a good thing Olshey keeps things as quiet as he does, but annoying as a fan who's desperate for some news.

Who knows with Canzano's tweet. Probably more likely just a play for him to get listeners to tune into the BFT than anything serious, but with it being a desert for information right now.... who knows.


Agreed. It sucks for us fans, starving for info and rumors. But while the Pritchard years were fun for that kind of stuff, it was too often just that, rumors. Olshey seems to have substance. The next 48 hours are going to be huge. I'm cautiously optimistic.
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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#1044 » by Masterfully » Wed Jun 29, 2016 9:21 pm

I doubt Canzano would straight up lie about Dwight. Let's just say Dwight's agent wants a max offer from NY. Wouldn't it be helpful if there was whispers out there about Portland? I would bet Dwight's agent insinuated something "anonymously" to help himself out.
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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#1045 » by DusterBuster » Wed Jun 29, 2016 9:36 pm

Wizenheimer wrote:Blazers have the worst possible timing. They have gobs of cap-space at the same time about 20 other teams have gobs of cap-space. And they have 3 RFA's that may very well attract some of that cap-space gobs.


Do they really though? I've heard this sentiment before and to me it's not that they have bad timing, it's just a reality of the NBA. There's always going to be competition for FA's and there's always going to be unexpected changes in the NBA.

I don't think there's any perfect way to plan for the future in the NBA and there's a good amount of simply having to play the hand you're dealt.
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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#1046 » by DusterBuster » Wed Jun 29, 2016 9:44 pm

Something else kinda interesting going back to the Dwight rumor, this was from Howard Beck and the blog post has been getting a lot of play on social media....

"Team executives who spoke to B/R predicted Howard might command $10-15 million in a starting salary—far short of the $23.3 million he just opted out of in Houston, and less than half the $31 million max salary he is said to be seeking. He might also have to settle for a short deal."

http://thelab.bleacherreport.com/would-you-pay-dwight-howard-31-million/

Man, that would be a huge bargain if Portland could get Howard at anything under 20mil.
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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#1047 » by JasonStern » Wed Jun 29, 2016 9:52 pm

Billy wrote:If Neil Olshey is unable to attract a quality free agent (definition of quality is entirely up to you :) ) with the cap space does that change your perspective on his abilities as a GM?


of course not. it's what he does immediately after that will define how I view his tenure as the Blazers' GM.
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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#1048 » by Beeboywhoo » Wed Jun 29, 2016 9:56 pm

I LOVE DWIGHT FOR 10-15MIL WOWWWWWWWWW

also quick question, very novice question at that: If the 76ers offer allen crabbe 13M, and portland decides to match, is that it? Portland keeps? Or can 76ers (or any other NBA team) come in and counter offer with something higher - and create a bidding war for crabbe
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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#1049 » by Andre 2999 » Wed Jun 29, 2016 9:59 pm

Yeah, Dwight for $10-$15 million would be fantastic!

As for the Crabbe question, if Portland matches an offer sheet then that's it, he'll re-sign with us for that amount.
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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#1050 » by Wizenheimer » Wed Jun 29, 2016 10:16 pm

Billy wrote:I don't want to sidebar things too much, but this seemed like a good thread to ask the question:

If Neil Olshey is unable to attract a quality free agent (definition of quality is entirely up to you :) ) with the cap space does that change your perspective on his abilities as a GM?


I'm probably less impressed with Olshey then most...

however, considering the Blazers' historical problem of attracting free agents, it would probably be a bit unfair to slam him for being unable to do what so many past Blazer GM's have been unable to do. Now, Olshey is supposed to be a master salesman and the Blazers ended the season with some serious positive momentum, so if Olshey craps out in signing any quality free agents (I'll define it as any guys generally a little more talented then current Blazer role players), then he does deserve a couple of demerits.

On the other hand, if Olshey fails to bring in at least one good free agent with his cap-space, then turns around and re-signs Crabbe & Leonard to big, ridiculous deals, I will slam him. I'd consider that combination of events to be a significant fail
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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#1051 » by Wizenheimer » Wed Jun 29, 2016 10:19 pm

Beeboywhoo wrote:I LOVE DWIGHT FOR 10-15MIL WOWWWWWWWWW

also quick question, very novice question at that: If the 76ers offer allen crabbe 13M, and portland decides to match, is that it? Portland keeps? Or can 76ers (or any other NBA team) come in and counter offer with something higher - and create a bidding war for crabbe


what Andre said

in fact, when/if Crabbe signs an offer sheet, then that will end up being his next contract, whether it's with the other team or Portland
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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#1052 » by DusterBuster » Wed Jun 29, 2016 10:58 pm

Crabbe will most likely want anywhere from $54-60 million on a four-year contract from any team interested in his services. If Sacramento wants to be a real player in the Crabbe sweepstakes, they will probably have to offer him $57 million to even be considered, sources tell Cowbell Kingdom.


http://cowbellkingdom.com/allen-crabbes-suitors-will-need-to-bid-in-the-vicinity-of-15-million-per-season/

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Barf.

Interesting that all the teams interested in giving him a stupid amount of money are the crappiest of the league in Sac, Nets and Philly. Of all that teams that are going to poop the bed and offer massive overpays, it's gonna be teams that routinely make awful awful awful roster moves and those 3 teams have been the cream of the crap for doing stupid moves over the past 3 or so years in the NBA.
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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#1053 » by DusterBuster » Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:28 pm

Olshey has shown a history for liking to go back to the well. Would he consider Eric Gordon as the 3rd guard if he came at a fairly reasonable price?
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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#1054 » by Wizenheimer » Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:34 pm

DusterBuster wrote:
Crabbe will most likely want anywhere from $54-60 million on a four-year contract from any team interested in his services. If Sacramento wants to be a real player in the Crabbe sweepstakes, they will probably have to offer him $57 million to even be considered, sources tell Cowbell Kingdom.


http://cowbellkingdom.com/allen-crabbes-suitors-will-need-to-bid-in-the-vicinity-of-15-million-per-season/

:sour:

Barf.

Interesting that all the teams interested in giving him a stupid amount of money are the crappiest of the league in Sac, Nets and Philly. Of all that teams that are going to poop the bed and offer massive overpays, it's gonna be teams that routinely make awful awful awful roster moves and those 3 teams have been the cream of the crap for doing stupid moves over the past 3 or so years in the NBA.


the stories we're hearing about what players will be getting are all over the place. Crabbe at 15 million year is gross

but I have to wonder how much of this is actually front offices leaking, and how much of this is player agents exaggerating in order to prime the pump and create a feeding frenzy at midnight

if it's true that free agents who are role players will be getting contracts almost as big as free agents who are starters, it might be real smart to try and get a starter, or two, and then sit out for a while and see who is left in the bargain bin.
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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#1055 » by Wizenheimer » Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:36 pm

DusterBuster wrote:Olshey has shown a history for liking to go back to the well. Would he consider Eric Gordon as the 3rd guard if he came at a fairly reasonable price?


in that vein, Blake Griffin could be UFA next season and Olshey could have major cap-space if he plays this summers cards right
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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#1056 » by DusterBuster » Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:38 pm

Wizenheimer wrote:
DusterBuster wrote:
Crabbe will most likely want anywhere from $54-60 million on a four-year contract from any team interested in his services. If Sacramento wants to be a real player in the Crabbe sweepstakes, they will probably have to offer him $57 million to even be considered, sources tell Cowbell Kingdom.


http://cowbellkingdom.com/allen-crabbes-suitors-will-need-to-bid-in-the-vicinity-of-15-million-per-season/

:sour:

Barf.

Interesting that all the teams interested in giving him a stupid amount of money are the crappiest of the league in Sac, Nets and Philly. Of all that teams that are going to poop the bed and offer massive overpays, it's gonna be teams that routinely make awful awful awful roster moves and those 3 teams have been the cream of the crap for doing stupid moves over the past 3 or so years in the NBA.


the stories we're hearing about what players will be getting are all over the place. Crabbe at 15 million year is gross

but I have to wonder how much of this is actually front offices leaking, and how much of this is player agents exaggerating in order to prime the pump and create a feeding frenzy at midnight

if it's true that free agents who are role players will be getting contracts almost as big as free agents who are starters, it might be real smart to try and get a starter, or two, and then sit out for a while and see who is left in the bargain bin.


The Sixers board think they may go as high as 17mil for Crabbe! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#1057 » by zzaj » Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:49 pm

I would be floored if Dwight made anything less than 20 mill/yr.

One of the main reasons his coming to Portland doesn't make sense is that it isn't in line with his "winning" constraint.

Lillard/CJ/Dwight aren't going to be winning any titles soon. Even with the bump in cap next year, there won't be enough money left to field a competetive roster.
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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#1058 » by zzaj » Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:56 pm

Crabbe?

He'll get over paid and I'll be happy for him in an expanded role on a losing team. In a normal year this wouldn't be much of a conversation.

I've always prefered keeping Henderson anyway...he's a better defender, passer, gets to the FT line every once in a while, and plays like he actually cares about being on the basketball court.
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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#1059 » by Masterfully » Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:03 am

Am I the only one completely unsurprised by these numbers? If Barnes can get the max then Harkless and Crabbe should be around $15-17 million. They're are not so different.
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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#1060 » by DusterBuster » Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:06 am

[tweet]https://twitter.com/sam_amick/status/748301242632273921[/tweet]

Apparently "a lot of buzz" with Dwight on a short-term deal. Hmmmmm.....
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