Dame Lizard wrote:Demin is 6'9/6'10, although his average wingspan makes him comparable to a 6'7/6'8 player. He's also pretty slow, and doesn't use his length for rebounding (which is quite poor). His assist to turnover ratio isn't overly amazing either.Walton1one wrote:The level of competition matters, the fact that Bryant played on a team of high usage vets as a freshman matters, the fact that Bryant was a top 20 recruit is relevant
I am not saying that Coward could not be that older diamond in the rough (Dame) but that scenario is more the exception than the rule, and Bryant being 3 years younger, does matter in terms of runway for development
Also, the level of competition concerns cannot be overstated, he has been playing against subpar players & then 6 games vs some weaker teams at WSU & everyone seems to be extrapolating from that, as if those stats would be similar if he played in the SEC or ACC.
What would he be like playing at Duke? We won’t know because he’s not going there. Instead he turned pro, now he could end up being great, he could also end up really struggling, and we’re not even talking about Duke. We are talking about going up against NBA level players
He has some tantalizing measurables & intriguing stats but banking on his shooting vs subpar teams\limited major conference exposure translating at an NBA level is a real risk
Now a lot of draft analysts and scouts really like him, and he is definitely moving up the boards to around the back third of the lottery, so I am really curious to see where he goes, but IMO he is a taking a swing pick, like Essengue, where they both have the requisite tools but nothing definitive that you can bank on that will translate at the NBA level
Bryant - defense
Demin - passing, floor mapping\vision, I would also add the positional versatility is highly valued, particularly since he will play at 6’9 - 6’10
Jakucionis - passing, shooting (pre injury he was lights out) & positional versatility
Those would be the 3 players that POR should target IMO. After that take the swing (Essengue\Coward\Newell\Riley)
I just don't see it with him. I'd take him at #20, but #11 would be a disappointing outcome for Portland imo.
I keep envisioning Demin as Ben Simmons skillset without the defense. Probably better mentally and willing to shoot, but not good at it from what he has done in games. Jaku may simultaneously be arguably the BPA while fitting a need (shooting/point guard).