Draft prospects @ 10

call.me.dude · Post #121 » by **call.me.dude** » Thu Jan 24, 2013 2:35 am

Not saying I wouldn't consider McAdoo, Bennett and Mitchell but IMO there‘s only a small chance one of them becomes a competent part time SF. They‘re full time PFs.

Leonard/stopgap C/LMA/one of the above would be okay with me though. I could also live with Plumlee or one of the guards.

tester551 · Post #122 » by **tester551** » Sun Feb 3, 2013 9:09 pm

I got to watch Bennett play live last night. Was very impressed with his offensive game. He has a nice range to the elbow. He also has a nice first step.... but he didn't apear to be in that great of shape & wasn't overly fast. His defense and rebounding were poor to mediocre. He has a future in the NBA, but I see him as a low-level starting PF to first big off the bench type. I have trouble seeing him as a top 5 pick..... but maybe there just aren't any better choices.

In the range that Portland will pick (assuming the pick does not go to Charlotte), I like:
Markus Smart
CJ McCullem
Mason Plumlee
Trey Burke

And probably my favorite ( who I think is being severly underrateed).... Victor Oladipo. He is doing it all for IU. Jay Bailas tweeted out a stat that in yesterdays game against Michigan, Victor defended 45 possesions against 4 different players and only gave up 4 points. On top of being a great defender, he is averaging 14 pnts, 5.8 rpg, 2.5 apg & 2.5 steals. All of this while shooting 64% from 2 and 51% from 3!!!

tester551 · Post #123 » by **tester551** » Wed Feb 6, 2013 5:47 am

tester551 wrote:And probably my favorite ( who I think is being severly underrateed).... Victor Oladipo. He is doing it all for IU. Jay Bailas tweeted out a stat that in yesterdays game against Michigan, Victor defended 45 possesions against 4 different players and only gave up 4 points. On top of being a great defender, he is averaging 14 pnts, 5.8 rpg, 2.5 apg & 2.5 steals. All of this while shooting 64% from 2 and 51% from 3!!!

Speak of the devil... Draftexpress has a new scouting video on this kid. I don't know how to copy/paste a link on my tab, so you will have to go watch it yourself.

I think this kid will be like Wes, but better. If Portland can draft this kid, I would think long & hard about trading Matthews.

Jsun947 · Post #124 » by **Jsun947** » Wed Feb 6, 2013 6:46 am

I'd consider taking this kid in a heart beat.

I don't know why you'd trade Wes though...? He's far from fully developed. You might trade Wes later but certainly not until he's holding his own in the NBA

call.me.dude · Post #125 » by **call.me.dude** » Wed Feb 6, 2013 2:13 pm

Agreed, Oladipo is awesome. His percentages, especially from 3, should come down eventually so he could slip a little but right now he's projected to go at 21. We could try and move up to the 27-34 range as there are some interesting prospects who all have their flaws but bring qualities that are much needed on this team and would fit pretty well:
- Jeff Withey (amazing shotblocker and post defender with a developing midrange J)
- Patric Young (worse rebounding, better defending Hickson)
- Russ Smith (lockdown D, attacks the rim and draws fouls, one man fast break, but is a 6-0 SG. That could work with Batum though. And we desperately need scoring off the bench)
- Jackie Carmichael (great rebounder, good scorer, especially in PnR and low post, athletic, very solid 2.5 blocks per 40 pace adj)
- maybe Phil Pressey (tiny but athletic PG who is great at the PnR and run a team)
- maybe Andre Roberson (lockdown D, athletic, plays his heart out, awesome rebounder, great potential but very raw as of now)
- and, if he slips, Oladipo who would be ideal with his defense, athleticism, slashing and rebounding

Russ Smith DX video: [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLePKmfknmM&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
Oladipo DX video: [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgWJGiJJAwk[/youtube]

tester551 · Post #126 » by **tester551** » Wed Feb 6, 2013 5:20 pm

Jsun947 wrote:I'd consider taking this kid in a heart beat.

I don't know why you'd trade Wes though...? He's far from fully developed. You might trade Wes later but certainly not until he's holding his own in the NBA

My thought was that Wes & Victor would be too much of a duplication of tallent. Portland needs a second ball handler who can score off the drive..... Neither Wes nor Victor can do that too effectively. If Portland drafts Victor, it would be a better use of resources to trade Wes & sign someone like Billups / Tyreke / Jack / Ridenour to fill that tallent gap.

Case2012 · Post #127 » by **Case2012** » Wed Feb 6, 2013 7:10 pm

Wes is a much better shooter though. I would be fine with having him as a role player or sixth man hustle guy. any combo of him and nic and wes would be fantastic defense on the wings.

GreenRiddler · Post #128 » by **GreenRiddler** » Thu Feb 7, 2013 4:57 am

If we can trade our 2nrnders ad filler we could get this guy mid 1st. http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketb ... rgui-dieng Maybe Atl will play ball since they wanna save $ get a 2nd rounder for you 18ish pick and Barton.

GreenRiddler · Post #129 » by **GreenRiddler** » Thu Feb 7, 2013 5:09 am

I don't see us drafting Odalipo, we got our wing players. Also he won't be in the range we will be 8-12.

RoyalWun · Post #130 » by **RoyalWun** » Thu Feb 7, 2013 6:42 am

We need help everywhere so BPA should be the way to go anyway. The only position I think we should skip if we do keep our pick is PG. I'd rather bring in a vet PG for cheap as a primary backup instead of a rookie.

zzaj · Post #131 » by **zzaj** » Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:59 am

RoyalWun wrote:We need help everywhere so BPA should be the way to go anyway. The only position I think we should skip if we do keep our pick is PG. I'd rather bring in a vet PG for cheap as a primary backup instead of a rookie.

The only issue I have with a vet backup at PG (or any position for that matter) is you know what you're getting for the money. As far as team assets go, having an unknown on a cheap contract can be more valuable in the long run if that unknown ends up as a good player.

If Marcus Smart is available and the Blazers own their pick...I think he would be a great option. Granted, he's probably more of a combo guard. Also, despite his being undersized Trey Burke has that "somehow I find a way to take over games with skill" quality that's pretty rare.

I just hope Portland doesn't fall in love with MCW. That guy has bust written all over him IMO...

Norm2953 · Post #132 » by **Norm2953** » Mon Feb 11, 2013 5:57 am

If we're thinking about who to pick at around 12 (assuming we keep our pick), I'd
probably prefer we pick a Mason Plumlee who will be like the guy the Cavs picked
at 17 last year (Tyler Zeller). He'll be a guy who will play 6-8 years as a journeyman
PF type that most teams have and be the guy that Joel Freeland was supposed to
have been.

Post #133 » by **DeBlazerRiddem** » Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:14 am

What about Mike Muscala? I don't know much about him besides his stats.

31.7 minutes
18.7 points (51.3% FG, 37.5 3pt%, 77.6 FT% on 7.1 FTs)
11.4 rebounds
2.8 assists
2.8 blocks
0.6 steals
2.2 fouls
1.9 turnovers

fishnc · Post #134 » by **fishnc** » Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:18 pm

Norm2953 wrote:If we're thinking about who to pick at around 12 (assuming we keep our pick), I'd
probably prefer we pick a Mason Plumlee who will be like the guy the Cavs picked
at 17 last year (Tyler Zeller). He'll be a guy who will play 6-8 years as a journeyman
PF type that most teams have and be the guy that Joel Freeland was supposed to
have been.

Mason Plumlee and Tyler Zeller are completely different players. Their only real similarities are being tall and white.

tester551 · Post #135 » by **tester551** » Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:33 pm

fishnc wrote:Mason Plumlee and Tyler Zeller are completely different players. Their only real similarities are being tall and white.

That being said, I like Plumlee better as a prospect.

Norm2953 · Post #136 » by **Norm2953** » Tue Feb 12, 2013 5:14 am

fishnc wrote:
Norm2953 wrote:If we're thinking about who to pick at around 12 (assuming we keep our pick), I'd
probably prefer we pick a Mason Plumlee who will be like the guy the Cavs picked
at 17 last year (Tyler Zeller). He'll be a guy who will play 6-8 years as a journeyman
PF type that most teams have and be the guy that Joel Freeland was supposed to
have been.

Mason Plumlee and Tyler Zeller are completely different players. Their only real similarities are being tall and white.

They are similar in that they are four year college players who are likely maxed out as far as ceiling is
concerned. Zeller to be sure is a natural center but Plumlee is a PF/C type with some athletic ability
but likely will be an NBA journeyman front court player. Plumlee should be a good role player and
hopefully would give us some size in case we lose JJ Hickson in free agency.

Being white is besides the point there are any number of players like Plumlee in the league and they always
seem to be on teams providing some quality minutes.

Butter · Post #137 » by **Butter** » Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:54 pm

Any input or scouting break down on Gorgui Dieng?

GreenRiddler · Post #138 » by **GreenRiddler** » Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:40 pm

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Gorgui-Dieng-6219/

Butter wrote:Any input or scouting break down on Gorgui Dieng?

GreenRiddler · Post #139 » by **GreenRiddler** » Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:41 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=eclOw60dITg[/youtube]

Don't know what's so special, fun to watch in college, but he is just a Will Bynum to me.

GreenRiddler · Post #140 » by **GreenRiddler** » Sat Feb 16, 2013 9:59 pm

I take back what I sadi about Smart, he is really aa good leader and brings a winning culture whever he oes, if he take OKU even a little in the NCaA tourney he will be a top 5 pick lock, with a top 3 possibility. He does everything Dion Waiters does but with high character and work ethic.
Goodwin on the other hand is just trash, if we want a 2 guard we should go for Mccolum instead he can be a Jason terry type, and we all know the benefits of 4 years in college.

[youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omY6v5jJIjw[/youtube]