Win now trade idea thread (Build around Dame!!)

[BlazersBroncos]

What do you guys think about these trades I saw suggested on the the trade board?

Portland —> Atlanta: Bledsoe, small contract (Brown) & pick #7
Atlanta —> Portland: Collins & pick #16

Portland —> Detroit: TPE & pick #16
Detroit —> Portland: Grant

I would love this, but with ATL wanting to win-now I dont think they make a move for a pick, but at the same time they have alot of money to figure out sooner than later. Maybe ATL would want to move off Huerter and his $$$ for Winslow (Who could fill some PF minutes w/ the departure of Collins), while also opening up using #7 on a long term SG fit.

[DusterBuster]

What do you guys think about these trades I saw suggested on the the trade board?

Portland —> Atlanta: Bledsoe, small contract (Brown) & pick #7
Atlanta —> Portland: Collins & pick #16

Portland —> Detroit: TPE & pick #16
Detroit —> Portland: Grant

I’d actually come away pretty impressed with that.

[ebott]

What do you guys think about these trades I saw suggested on the the trade board?

Portland —> Atlanta: Bledsoe, small contract (Brown) & pick #7
Atlanta —> Portland: Collins & pick #16

Portland —> Detroit: TPE & pick #16
Detroit —> Portland: Grant

I’d actually come away pretty impressed with that.

Me too. I fully expect the Blazers to get one starting quality player with the 7th pick and EBEC (Eric Bledsoe's expiring contract). Then hope we can get a starting quality player with our MLE. If they ended up being able to trade for two starters and then have the MLE to spend on a bench player I'd be amazed.

[BlazersBroncos]

Starting to really talk myself into Eason. Think he has some Crash Wallace to him, that intensity will be adored by Billups.

Looking at the guys we brought in at the deadline, Tari 100% looks like a guy we would target. Wish we could trade down w/ CHA and still get him but he’s gonna be a riser IMO.

[DusterBuster]

What do you guys think about these trades I saw suggested on the the trade board?

Portland —> Atlanta: Bledsoe, small contract (Brown) & pick #7
Atlanta —> Portland: Collins & pick #16

Portland —> Detroit: TPE & pick #16
Detroit —> Portland: Grant

I’d actually come away pretty impressed with that.

Me too. I fully expect the Blazers to get one starting quality player with the 7th pick and EBEC (Eric Bledsoe's expiring contract). Then hope we can get a starting quality player with our MLE. If they ended up being able to trade for two starters and then have the MLE to spend on a bench player I'd be amazed.

At this point I'm too old to be naive to the fact that what I "think" will make a good roster actually will... BUT... if you can get Grant and Collins and end with a roster of...

Dame/Simons
Simons/Hart
Grant/Little
Collins/Winslow
Nurkic/FA/Eubanks

Dare I say... that's not altogether the worst roster I could imagine. In a pretty wide-open West, why not?

I do think DET would want another 1st for an outside lottery pick. I also worry about the C spot. So not sure if it's the most realistic, but if Portland trades 7, getting Collins is well worth it if they can - I would be much happier with than seeing 7 go out for Grant... hopefully, that actually is how it works out. I think he's underutilized in ATL. He and Nurk would be awesome together. Can go small-ball with Collins @ 5 too to go really athletic.

There's no perfect balance / calculation to team building, but if they can pull this kind of roster off, it's something pretty new and probably the most athletic roster since the days they had Barton and Robinson off the bench.

[Case2012]

It all depends on if Murray is gone. If he is, then Grant and Collins is pretty good for the 7th. I would still prefer going after Turner over Collins and working out some kind of sign and trade with nurk somewhere. Same with Simons. I would like to turn him into a lockdown defender at the 3. Mikal Bridges would be the dream but there's no way they move him

Apparently Cam Johnson is pretty good in that role off the bench. I would imagine his production would increase if he started. Hart, Johnson, Grant, and Turner would would be the best defensive starting lineup we've had since drafting Dame. That's also a five out offense which would work out perfect in billups system of driving and kicking it out. Personally I think Simons has more value than Johnson but the fit makes a lot of sense.

I don't think Phoenix is ready to move on from cp3 yet, but if they were I would approach them. They would save a lot of money with Simons and free up some money for Ayton.

[Goldbum]

I like the idea of Mo Bamba for the MLE. He's switchable, blocks shots and can hit the 3. I think with his shooting and foot speed he could see about 8 minutes a night along side Nurk and 20 backing him up. The moment he signs we stop being a tiny team.

[wjun15]

i don't think hawks will trade collins and 16 and 7th and fillers. but that would be amazing to get collins and grant for basically the 7th

[wjun15]

I like the idea of Mo Bamba for the MLE. He's switchable, blocks shots and can hit the 3. I think with his shooting and foot speed he could see about 8 minutes a night along side Nurk and 20 backing him up. The moment he signs we stop being a tiny team.

yes. nurk will prolly get injured too

[wjun15]

I’d actually come away pretty impressed with that.

Me too. I fully expect the Blazers to get one starting quality player with the 7th pick and EBEC (Eric Bledsoe's expiring contract). Then hope we can get a starting quality player with our MLE. If they ended up being able to trade for two starters and then have the MLE to spend on a bench player I'd be amazed.

At this point I'm too old to be naive to the fact that what I "think" will make a good roster actually will... BUT... if you can get Grant and Collins and end with a roster of...

Dame/Simons
Simons/Hart
Grant/Little
Collins/Winslow
Nurkic/FA/Eubanks

Dare I say... that's not altogether the worst roster I could imagine. In a pretty wide-open West, why not?

I do think DET would want another 1st for an outside lottery pick. I also worry about the C spot. So not sure if it's the most realistic, but if Portland trades 7, getting Collins is well worth it if they can - I would be much happier with than seeing 7 go out for Grant... hopefully, that actually is how it works out. I think he's underutilized in ATL. He and Nurk would be awesome together. Can go small-ball with Collins @ 5 too to go really athletic.

There's no perfect balance / calculation to team building, but if they can pull this kind of roster off, it's something pretty new and probably the most athletic roster since the days they had Barton and Robinson off the bench.

can we even pay to keep these players?

Dame simons Collins grant that's alot of money

[Jsun947]

What do you guys think about these trades I saw suggested on the the trade board?

Portland —> Atlanta: Bledsoe, small contract (Brown) & pick #7
Atlanta —> Portland: Collins & pick #16

Portland —> Detroit: TPE & pick #16
Detroit —> Portland: Grant

I would love this, but with ATL wanting to win-now I dont think they make a move for a pick, but at the same time they have alot of money to figure out sooner than later. Maybe ATL would want to move off Huerter and his $$$ for Winslow (Who could fill some PF minutes w/ the departure of Collins), while also opening up using #7 on a long term SG fit.

At the very least this feels lopsided. We’d probably have to include one or more of Little, Johnson, Mil 1st, and our 2nd round picks.

Ultimately I’m not sure we’re good trade partners. Atlanta wants to win now and needs a serious talent upgrade at the wing. We want to win now and need a serious talent upgrade at the wing. We both want the same thing.

[DusterBuster]

And there it is...

https://theathletic.com/3328595/2022/05/23/nba-draft-combine-analysis/

"The pick that seems even more certain to be on the move is Portland’s at No. 7, with sources saying the Blazers will push to immediately put a competitive team around Damian Lillard rather than start over. Detroit’s Jerami Grant has been the hot name here, but the Blazers could look at other options."

First time in print by national media floating the idea of #7 being traded for Grant. I honestly think this is about as much of a lock as you can get to happen. They'll shop it around the league for sure, but at the end of the day I think they end up back here.

[Norm2953]

This just means we'll be back to where we are today in 2025

[DeBlazerRiddem]

And there it is...

https://theathletic.com/3328595/2022/05/23/nba-draft-combine-analysis/

"The pick that seems even more certain to be on the move is Portland’s at No. 7, with sources saying the Blazers will push to immediately put a competitive team around Damian Lillard rather than start over. Detroit’s Jerami Grant has been the hot name here, but the Blazers could look at other options."

First time in print by national media floating the idea of #7 being traded for Grant. I honestly think this is about as much of a lock as you can get to happen. They'll shop it around the league for sure, but at the end of the day I think they end up back here.

Especially because Detroit gets to sit around dreaming of getting pick 7 and so will be harder to convince to take less than that without serious other options on the table for the Blazers, essentially meaning they will strongly resist attempts to bring a 3rd team into the trade in order to give us more value (and them less) unless we show a willingness to walk away from the deal entirely.

It's going to show Cronin's resolve, if he is able to talk a rival into taking less than they have talked themselves into being able to get or whether he caves due to the pressure on our side to compete now.

[Blazers20]

BRK: Bledsoe-Hart-7th-Bucks 2025 Pick
DET: Ant
PHO: Nurk (S&T)
ORL: Little-Didi-Keon
POR: Simmons-Grant-Ayton-Suggs

Sign Bamba-Bol

1: Dame
2: Suggs
3: Grant-Bol
4: Simmons
5: Ayton-Bamba

[tester551]

And there it is...

https://theathletic.com/3328595/2022/05/23/nba-draft-combine-analysis/

"The pick that seems even more certain to be on the move is Portland’s at No. 7, with sources saying the Blazers will push to immediately put a competitive team around Damian Lillard rather than start over. Detroit’s Jerami Grant has been the hot name here, but the Blazers could look at other options."

First time in print by national media floating the idea of #7 being traded for Grant. I honestly think this is about as much of a lock as you can get to happen. They'll shop it around the league for sure, but at the end of the day I think they end up back here.

Especially because Detroit gets to sit around dreaming of getting pick 7 and so will be harder to convince to take less than that without serious other options on the table for the Blazers, essentially meaning they will strongly resist attempts to bring a 3rd team into the trade in order to give us more value (and them less) unless we show a willingness to walk away from the deal entirely.

It's going to show Cronin's resolve, if he is able to talk a rival into taking less than they have talked themselves into being able to get or whether he caves due to the pressure on our side to compete now.

If I'm Cronin - I make a Best & Final offer right now.
The offer is Grant for Keon + Bledsoe + Buck '25 pick. Detroit can have until June 15th - otherwise we're going another direction.

[DusterBuster]

Anyone have any context on what Casey is trying to get at here?

Read on Twitter

[tester551]

Anyone have any context on what Casey is trying to get at here?

Read on Twitter

It's in reference to this article (ie - Blazers will not trade #7 for Grant):

And there it is...

https://theathletic.com/3328595/2022/05/23/nba-draft-combine-analysis/

"The pick that seems even more certain to be on the move is Portland’s at No. 7, with sources saying the Blazers will push to immediately put a competitive team around Damian Lillard rather than start over. Detroit’s Jerami Grant has been the hot name here, but the Blazers could look at other options."

First time in print by national media floating the idea of #7 being traded for Grant. I honestly think this is about as much of a lock as you can get to happen. They'll shop it around the league for sure, but at the end of the day I think they end up back here.

Especially because Detroit gets to sit around dreaming of getting pick 7 and so will be harder to convince to take less than that without serious other options on the table for the Blazers, essentially meaning they will strongly resist attempts to bring a 3rd team into the trade in order to give us more value (and them less) unless we show a willingness to walk away from the deal entirely.

It's going to show Cronin's resolve, if he is able to talk a rival into taking less than they have talked themselves into being able to get or whether he caves due to the pressure on our side to compete now.

If I'm Cronin - I make a Best & Final offer right now.
The offer is Grant for Keon + Bledsoe + Buck '25 pick. Detroit can have until June 15th - otherwise we're going another direction.

[zeebneeb]

And there it is...

https://theathletic.com/3328595/2022/05/23/nba-draft-combine-analysis/

"The pick that seems even more certain to be on the move is Portland’s at No. 7, with sources saying the Blazers will push to immediately put a competitive team around Damian Lillard rather than start over. Detroit’s Jerami Grant has been the hot name here, but the Blazers could look at other options."

First time in print by national media floating the idea of #7 being traded for Grant. I honestly think this is about as much of a lock as you can get to happen. They'll shop it around the league for sure, but at the end of the day I think they end up back here.

Especially because Detroit gets to sit around dreaming of getting pick 7 and so will be harder to convince to take less than that without serious other options on the table for the Blazers, essentially meaning they will strongly resist attempts to bring a 3rd team into the trade in order to give us more value (and them less) unless we show a willingness to walk away from the deal entirely.

It's going to show Cronin's resolve, if he is able to talk a rival into taking less than they have talked themselves into being able to get or whether he caves due to the pressure on our side to compete now.

If I'm Cronin - I make a Best & Final offer right now.
The offer is Grant for Keon + Bledsoe + Buck '25 pick. Detroit can have until June 15th - otherwise we're going another direction.

Pistons fan here. There is no way Weaver will take that deal. Dead in the water. All that extra salary, for that pick? Weaver wanted two firsts for Grant, and refused to move him at the deadline when he didn't get what he wanted.

[DusterBuster]

Especially because Detroit gets to sit around dreaming of getting pick 7 and so will be harder to convince to take less than that without serious other options on the table for the Blazers, essentially meaning they will strongly resist attempts to bring a 3rd team into the trade in order to give us more value (and them less) unless we show a willingness to walk away from the deal entirely.

It's going to show Cronin's resolve, if he is able to talk a rival into taking less than they have talked themselves into being able to get or whether he caves due to the pressure on our side to compete now.

If I'm Cronin - I make a Best & Final offer right now.
The offer is Grant for Keon + Bledsoe + Buck '25 pick. Detroit can have until June 15th - otherwise we're going another direction.

Pistons fan here. There is no way Weaver will take that deal. Dead in the water. All that extra salary, for that pick? Weaver wanted two firsts for Grant, and refused to move him at the deadline when he didn't get what he wanted.

All that salary? Bledsoe’s final year is only partially guaranteed for 2 or 3 mil. So he’s essentially expiring and the pistons would get Johnson and whatever that 2025 pick turns out to be.

Not saying that he would still do that deal, but figured you might not have all the information based on your reaction.

FWIW, I still fully expect the Blazers to move 7 for Grant unfortunately. I think it’s a pretty dumb trade considering trading for Grant also means paying his soon to be overpriced extension, but Grant and Dame are close so if Dame wants it, it’ll happen, regardless of any “final offers” fans here want.

I think the Blazers plan this summer is to try and get Grant and Ayton both. 7 pick isn’t really in place for Ayton given the timing of the draft and FA. So I think they’re gonna try and move Grant for 7 (deal agreed to on draft but not completed until after so the Blazers “technically” make the pick), then try and work a double S&T of Ayton for Nurkic and package the Blazers 2023 FRP, a pick swap in 2024 and the Bucks 2025.