CJ TRADE IDEAS

[Sinobas]

Kevin Love from 7 years ago would be great, but now the current version. I'd rather trade CJ for nothing.

[Epicurus]

Umm, the starting lineup had a very good defensive rating also 103.1. Thus I have no idea about what you are speaking in reference to my points. Or maybe you've started a new theme. BTW to go with the 103.1 defensive rating (which is points per possessions x 100), the offense of the starting three guard lineup for its 121 minutes together for the series was 124.8, also excellent. In brief, that starting lineup was certainly not the problem in winning the series. ( we agree that Lillard was excellent offensively and very good defensively).

[Goldbum]

I'm sort of hoping we can ad Cam Reddish in a CJ package. Obviously a 3 team trade... IDK what it would look like but Tobias Harris and Cam would balance the roster if we cant nab Simmons

[DeBlazerRiddem]

I'm sort of hoping we can ad Cam Reddish in a CJ package. Obviously a 3 team trade... IDK what it would look like but Tobias Harris and Cam would balance the roster if we cant nab Simmons

Man I was high on Cam when he was drafted and chalk it up to one of my many draft failures, but I like him as a buy-low candidate as well. Maybe not so much in a "keep Damian happy" type move, but he certainly has the tools to be a quality NBA player if he ever figures it out.

[JasonStern]

Olshey needs to draft Bam instead of Zach Collins
then not sign Derrick Jones
and not hold onto Anfrenee Simons like hes the next Giannis. People dont realize Simons is just a midget version of Duncan Robinson at best that has 0 playmaking ability (mostly because hes a straight line player than doesnt have any moves to get past the defense)

Looks like I have to back-handedly defend not trading Simons. The guy doesn't have the trade value the Blazers board seems to think he has. Same with Collins. Same with Little. The Blazers are best off not picking up Collins' high Q.O. and keeping Simons/Little in the hopes that they develop. They've shown flashes of being legit NBA players. But no NBA team is going to trade a legit all-star for CJ and "potential" players that are years into their rookie contracts.

The 2017 NBA draft definitely was a top 3 eff up by Olshey. Using likey the last lotto pick of the Dame era to draft Collins, then picking Swanigan over Brooks after Brooks literally making it to the "out for dinner with Paul Allen" stage significantly set the team back. That's 2-3 1st round picks with nothing to show for it 4 seasons later.

DJJ wasn't the worst signing. Made more sense to split the MLE and get two guys like Portis/Dunn/Harkless, or to make the signing a team option instead of a player option. Jones as a player was a questionable signing given Stotts' offense, but there's a chance Billups can hopefully find a role for him. Being fair, the signing only screws Portland over if it costs us retaining Powell due to our cap situation.

If we want to crap on Olshey for cap mismanagement, it always comes back to 2016.

Lose Aldridge in free agency for nothing.
Blow limited cap space on Turner, Crabbe, Ezeli, etc.
Get zero starters out of years of 1st round picks (with Covington being the exception).
And the "save the franchise" move was to trade the most valuable young player Portland had for a 6'3" guard to pair with... two other 6'3" or smaller guards.

Just mind-blowing that Olshey still has a job unless ownership is intentionally trying to sabotage the franchise in an attempt to move it to Seattle.

[GEE]

I'm not a betting man, but I'd be willing to place a pretty decent wager that GTJ will be as good as Powell by the season start, and better before season's end. I still hate that trade! GTJ has that Killer / I want to destroy you type of attitude that very few players have these days. He's special, and we let him get away.

[Wickzki]

I'm not a betting man, but I'd be willing to place a pretty decent wager that GTJ will be as good as Powell by the season start, and better before season's end. I still hate that trade! GTJ has that Killer / I want to destroy you type of attitude that very few players have these days. He's special, and we let him get away.

And we did it all for a guy playing for his own contract and no long-term benefit.

[DusterBuster]

I'm not a betting man, but I'd be willing to place a pretty decent wager that GTJ will be as good as Powell by the season start, and better before season's end. I still hate that trade! GTJ has that Killer / I want to destroy you type of attitude that very few players have these days. He's special, and we let him get away.

Yeah, I’m still totally unclear why that was considered a good deal.

[Norm2953]

Olshey needs to draft Bam instead of Zach Collins
then not sign Derrick Jones
and not hold onto Anfrenee Simons like hes the next Giannis. People dont realize Simons is just a midget version of Duncan Robinson at best that has 0 playmaking ability (mostly because hes a straight line player than doesnt have any moves to get past the defense)

Looks like I have to back-handedly defend not trading Simons. The guy doesn't have the trade value the Blazers board seems to think he has. Same with Collins. Same with Little. The Blazers are best off not picking up Collins' high Q.O. and keeping Simons/Little in the hopes that they develop. They've shown flashes of being legit NBA players. But no NBA team is going to trade a legit all-star for CJ and "potential" players that are years into their rookie contracts.

The 2017 NBA draft definitely was a top 3 eff up by Olshey. Using likey the last lotto pick of the Dame era to draft Collins, then picking Swanigan over Brooks after Brooks literally making it to the "out for dinner with Paul Allen" stage significantly set the team back. That's 2-3 1st round picks with nothing to show for it 4 seasons later.

DJJ wasn't the worst signing. Made more sense to split the MLE and get two guys like Portis/Dunn/Harkless, or to make the signing a team option instead of a player option. Jones as a player was a questionable signing given Stotts' offense, but there's a chance Billups can hopefully find a role for him. Being fair, the signing only screws Portland over if it costs us retaining Powell due to our cap situation.

If we want to crap on Olshey for cap mismanagement, it always comes back to 2016.

Lose Aldridge in free agency for nothing.
Blow limited cap space on Turner, Crabbe, Ezeli, etc.
Get zero starters out of years of 1st round picks (with Covington being the exception).
And the "save the franchise" move was to trade the most valuable young player Portland had for a 6'3" guard to pair with... two other 6'3" or smaller guards.

Just mind-blowing that Olshey still has a job unless ownership is intentionally trying to sabotage the franchise in an attempt to move it to Seattle.

Makes one wonder if the city of Portland would be better off with an expansion team ala the Seattle Kraken as opposed
to the NO/Vulcans in Portland.

How pleased will Dame be if Portland's big move on draft day would be to buy themselves in the second round
and drafting another 6-3 guard? As far as anyone knows, Portland has been absolutely silent outside of the Dame/CJ
trade talk and the release of Zach. How I miss the old KP days who at least made things interesting in the off
season.

I wonder what they are doing there for doing nothing of consequence is only going to fuel a Dame trade demand
and likely less of a trade package in return.

[red_power]

Hopefully Olshey gave up an idea of singing and trading Norm for Ben Simmons, and he concentrated on materializing CJ for Simmons swap now.
It simply makes too much sense. Blazers need to break Dame-CJ-Norm conundrum without losing anybody for free. 76ers need to trade Ben as soon as they can, cause they got to the point where this dude became as toxic for them as the Chernobyl area is.
And CJ clearly the best player they can get on this market.

This move might not be as sexy as all those "CJ-for-Giannis" dreams, but could finally be another step in the right direction.

[DusterBuster]

Hopefully Olshey gave up an idea of singing and trading Norm for Ben Simmons, and he concentrated on materializing CJ for Simmons swap now.
It simply makes too much sense. Blazers need to break Dame-CJ-Norm conundrum without losing anybody for free. 76ers need to trade Ben as soon as they can, cause they got to the point where this dude became as toxic for them as the Chernobyl area is.
And CJ clearly the best player they can get on this market.

This move might not be as sexy as all those "CJ-for-Giannis" dreams, but could finally be another step in the right direction.

By all reports, the Sixers asking price for Simmons is outrageous. They are not going to accept anything short of Dame for Simmons, so obviously CJ for Simmons is a non-starter at this point and any incentives Portland adds to that isn’t going to cut it.

[Jsun947]

Hopefully Olshey gave up an idea of singing and trading Norm for Ben Simmons, and he concentrated on materializing CJ for Simmons swap now.
It simply makes too much sense. Blazers need to break Dame-CJ-Norm conundrum without losing anybody for free. 76ers need to trade Ben as soon as they can, cause they got to the point where this dude became as toxic for them as the Chernobyl area is.
And CJ clearly the best player they can get on this market.

This move might not be as sexy as all those "CJ-for-Giannis" dreams, but could finally be another step in the right direction.

By all reports, the Sixers asking price for Simmons is outrageous. They are not going to accept anything short of Dame for Simmons, so obviously CJ for Simmons is a non-starter at this point and any incentives Portland adds to that isn’t going to cut it.

That's what Philly is saying.

Honestly I'm not sure what type of offer they think they're going to get for Simmons. He doesn't have value for teams not trying to win and he doesn't have value as a top 3 or arguably a top 4 player on a championship caliber team.

The only teams he makes sense on are teams outside of the playoffs trying to get into the playoffs but also that have enough shooting around him for it to work.... But those teams aren't going to give up their best young players or anything of tremendous value.

[DusterBuster]

Hopefully Olshey gave up an idea of singing and trading Norm for Ben Simmons, and he concentrated on materializing CJ for Simmons swap now.
It simply makes too much sense. Blazers need to break Dame-CJ-Norm conundrum without losing anybody for free. 76ers need to trade Ben as soon as they can, cause they got to the point where this dude became as toxic for them as the Chernobyl area is.
And CJ clearly the best player they can get on this market.

This move might not be as sexy as all those "CJ-for-Giannis" dreams, but could finally be another step in the right direction.

By all reports, the Sixers asking price for Simmons is outrageous. They are not going to accept anything short of Dame for Simmons, so obviously CJ for Simmons is a non-starter at this point and any incentives Portland adds to that isn’t going to cut it.

That's what Philly is saying.

Honestly I'm not sure what type of offer they think they're going to get for Simmons. He doesn't have value for teams not trying to win and he doesn't have value as a top 3 or arguably a top 4 player on a championship caliber team.

The only teams he makes sense on are teams outside of the playoffs trying to get into the playoffs but also that have enough shooting around him for it to work.... But those teams aren't going to give up their best young players or anything of tremendous value.

I think it’s a lot of posturing on their part. I think by setting the initial bid so stupidly high, the hope by morey is that by the time negotiations have happened, the deal is still pretty good on their end even after a couple concessions.

Either that or he left is brains in Houston.

[PDXKnight]

By all reports, the Sixers asking price for Simmons is outrageous. They are not going to accept anything short of Dame for Simmons, so obviously CJ for Simmons is a non-starter at this point and any incentives Portland adds to that isn’t going to cut it.

That's what Philly is saying.

Honestly I'm not sure what type of offer they think they're going to get for Simmons. He doesn't have value for teams not trying to win and he doesn't have value as a top 3 or arguably a top 4 player on a championship caliber team.

The only teams he makes sense on are teams outside of the playoffs trying to get into the playoffs but also that have enough shooting around him for it to work.... But those teams aren't going to give up their best young players or anything of tremendous value.

I think it’s a lot of posturing on their part. I think by setting the initial bid so stupidly high, the hope by morey is that by the time negotiations have happened, the deal is still pretty good on their end even after a couple concessions.

Either that or he left is brains in Houston.

I think cj + simons + 3 first round picks might be in the range of what they’re posturing for if they do a cj trade. That does seem like an overpay to me, the type of offer we could make for someone of superior talent like beal. I feel like we should have an offer for beal in hand in case morey tries to overplay his cards and refuses to back down from his price. Dame wants a roll of the dice franchise altering trade and i think making a solid run at beal says we are willing to take that risk. And ultimately i think beal would resign for us as he seems more about being in a good situation than being in a big market. Paul George might be a better fit though, resign powell and add george and man we look good at least on paper

[PDXKnight]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.blazersedge.com/platform/amp/2021/7/31/22603544/could-portland-trail-blazers-cj-mccollum-toronto-raptors-pascal-siakam-trade

cj for siakum would certainly fix some holes. Would be perfect with powell hopefully the. returning as a more suitable 2 next to dame

To those on some sites seemingly worried about losing roco (on top of cj) for siakum roco would be more redundant at that point anyhow so i think it’s a reasonable move though of course if we can keep roco that’d be way more awesome for our depth

[Norm2953]

Very likely teams are in the tampering phase of free agency which isn't supposed to start until August 2.
Let's see if Powell opts to re-sign with Portland which would seem to indicate CJ will finally be dealt.

For Portland, all eyes are on Toronto for passing on Suggs at 4 does seem to appear there is something
to the CJ/Siakum talk. Dame is waiting patiently with team USA to see if NO can get off the couch and
get something done

[PDXKnight]

Theoretically if toronto wants something like cj + 2 firsts +roco for paschal (also this is if we know we can retain powell with fairly high confidence) is that a yes or a no?

[The Sebastian Express]

That's a no. Big no. I'd do CJ + multiple firsts for Simmons, but not Pascal.

[Sinobas]

I'd trade CJ for Pascal straight up.

Then we try to dump DJJ or trade RoCo for a 1st. Use that 12 million to be able to offer Powell 20+ mil per year.

[Sinobas]

Side note: anyone notice on real gm's trade checker, it still has Marcelo Nicola on there? He's 50 years old!!!