2022 draft/prospects thread

[Case2012]

Kinda crazy I haven’t anything about Orlando Robinson before.

Just watched a bunch of footage from him and I’m baffled as to why he’s not even projected as a first round pick, the guy is a 7’0 pf/C with a 7’4 wingspan and can score from all 3 levels, passes well and plays decent defense. The knocks on him are his level of competition playing for a mid major and his below the rim athleticism, combined with a need to get stronger although it looks like he has a solid frame to build on. He would be a STEAL with one of our seconds, I’m really high on him.

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[BlazersBroncos]

Robinson is sorta in that Luke Garza caliber where he really lacks functional NBA athleticism. I wouldnt take him with our higher SRP personally.

I am really starting to go all in on Kessler. He seems like such a sure thing as a rim protector that can set a screen and roll. Has NBA size, length and athleticism but his timing and hand-eye coordination with both hands for blocks really makes him special.

[Case2012]

I like Kessler as well, but I wouldn't take him with a lottery pick and I'm not trading down for sa lower picks.

Give me AJ Griffen, Murray a decent center in the second and I'll call it a day.

[The Sebastian Express]

I just want luck and Jabari Smith /sobs.

[DusterBuster]

I just want luck and Jabari Smith /sobs.

Yeah, I'm not really bothering to watch the standings that closely, just ready for the season to be over and the lottery to be here. Getting into the Bottom 4 pre-lottery isn't realistic; ORL, HOU, DET and OKC are just too far ahead of the crappy curve. I would say IND is probably to hard to catch too - Pacers and Blazers aren't far off from a win total, but Pacers have played a lot of extra games and have quite a few extra losses already racked up, so I'd be surprised if the Blazers can even get into the #5 slot even if they lost-out for the rest of the year. A chance they could with losing-out the rest of the season, but who knows.

I'm just hopeful the Blazers land around #6. I think if they can get up to that, I like the Blazers odds to jump up.

[Goldbum]

So my buddy says from the pre March madness/pre draft evaluations he's hearing from inside his organization and agents that Paolo won't go higher than 6th... Would you be happy with Paolo and one of Eason, Sharpe, Murray, or Duren? He has the top 5 as Smith, Ivey, Griffen, Chet and either Sharpe or Murray....

[Case2012]

Paulo to me is a Jabari Parker, Derrick Williams, Micheal Beasley type. I'll pass on him.

[wjun15]

cj on covid protocols, ingram out 1.5 plus weeks. not sure if this is good or bad for us...hard to say. we don't want them to be too bad so they jump up to top 4 but not good enough to win playin

[Case2012]

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Nice breakdown on Griffin. Kind of questioning his motor a bit after watching.

[Norm2953]

Let's just wait and see who shows up at the pre-draft workouts and how these guys do at the
draft combine. It will help to know measurables for the 6-10 guys who end up 6-8 are going
to struggle at the next level

[Case2012]

The more I watch Murray the more sold on him I am as a sure thing in the NBA, everyone else besides Smith has a lot of Question marks for me in the top 10.
Ivey can be a black hole when it comes to playmaking and shot selection at times.
Chet’s frame… I just can’t get past it.
Griffins handle and athleticism. His slow feet makes me think he’ll struggle to create and guard.
Davis athleticism
Duren’s offense and decision making
Eason seems slow laterally and despite his defensive numbers I’m not sure he’ll be that good at guarding the perimeter.

Check out the similarities between Murray and Smith, they both seem like the ideal forward in the modern NBA and I don’t think you could go wrong with either, but imagine the blazers getting both…

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[elias808]

I'd love to walk out of this draft with;

8th: Murray
9th: Eason or Duren
38th: O. Robinson
59th: Jalen Williams (who I'm shocked isn't mocked a lot of places. Would take him with the 38th pick.)

[DeBlazerRiddem]

The more I watch Murray the more sold on him as a sure thing in the NBA, everyone else besides Smith have a lot of Question marks for me in the top 10.
Ivey can be a black hole when it comes to playmaking and shot selection at times.

Agreed on Murray being one of the safest players in the draft. Like with any prospect are lots of ways his development could go wrong but his baseline seems higher than many others. Although I'm thinking we probably have to get a top 5 pick to get him as well.

Although its worth noting that Murray might be even more of a blackhole than Ivey. 15 shots on 1.4 assists is pretty bad. I watched a little bit of that Northwestern game and he didn't seem to be playing too selfishly so that could just be the way the team is constructed and coached but that is my main concern for him, that in the wrong situation (ie if he goes to a bad team and can jack up shots) he might develop into a bit of a me-first chucker. But again, that is coaching and development and I don't really worry about Billups encouraging those type bad habits.

[Village Idiot]

So my buddy says from the pre March madness/pre draft evaluations he's hearing from inside his organization and agents that Paolo won't go higher than 6th... Would you be happy with Paolo and one of Eason, Sharpe, Murray, or Duren? He has the top 5 as Smith, Ivey, Griffen, Chet and either Sharpe or Murray....

heck ya on Banchero. I have him in my second tier (first being Smith and Ivey). Banchero has really strong passing skills and should do better with NBA spacing than what we've seen in college. I have his ceiling being a bigger Tatum.

The more I look at Eason the less I like due to his offensive limitations. With our 2nd pick I'd look to move down and get two more picks from the Spurs or Grizzlies and get Agbaji and Baldwin. Kamagate is the other guy I really like with a late first, early 2nd.

[BlazersBroncos]

So my buddy says from the pre March madness/pre draft evaluations he's hearing from inside his organization and agents that Paolo won't go higher than 6th... Would you be happy with Paolo and one of Eason, Sharpe, Murray, or Duren? He has the top 5 as Smith, Ivey, Griffen, Chet and either Sharpe or Murray....

heck ya on Banchero. I have him in my second tier (first being Smith and Ivey). Banchero has really strong passing skills and should do better with NBA spacing than what we've seen in college. I have his ceiling being a bigger Tatum.

The more I look at Eason the less I like due to his offensive limitations. With our 2nd pick I'd look to move down and get two more picks from the Spurs or Grizzlies and get Agbaji and Baldwin. Kamagate is the other guy I really like with a late first, early 2nd.

Banchero doesnt have near the perimeter game of Tatum. He is more of a PF/C. I think a 21st century Derrick Coleman is more apt a comparison IMO. But his passing is really impressive and his shot has the form, just not the consistency. A Duke poster on the Draft Board basically put it like '15 feet and in Paolo looks like a top-3 pick' but the issue is becoming a true peremiter threat, as well as where he fits defensively.

I like him as the type of guy that starts at PF but only plays a fraction of his minutes there, mostly playing as a small ball C (IE 10mpg at starting PF, 20mpg as the backup C). I think the position he best defends is for sure C, he has great strength and is faster / twitchier than most centers (And would be better switching than most C's). But at PF he will get picked on. I couldnt imagine him consistently trying to guard someone like Jabari Smith at PF, iso him and he is toast IMO.

A plus for Paolo on a team that might be trying to win next year is he is for sure NBA ready from a size perspective, he is gonna be good to bang with the big boys immediatley.

[Tim Lehrbach]

I'm not the most informed, but from what I've seen Sharpe and Murray stand out the most. Problem is, I bet they'll both end up going in the top 5.

[DusterBuster]

I’m not even bothering scouting prospects until after the lottery.

[Tim Lehrbach]

First time watching Ivey today. Awesome burst, good handles and vision. Absolutely must fix that shot if he's gonna be a star. Even aside from the middling effectiveness, his release looks low and slow.

From this same game, MSU's Marcus Bingham and Purdue's Trevion Williams both seem like guys who'll get multiple looks in the league. Not sure either one is projected to get drafted?

Also, if Max Christie is a first rounder, then I need to give Ivey credit for defense, too. Christie was totally erased in this one.

[Goldbum]

I'd love to walk out of this draft with;

8th: Murray
9th: Eason or Duren
38th: O. Robinson
59th: Jalen Williams (who I'm shocked isn't mocked a lot of places. Would take him with the 38th pick.)

That would be a beautiful draft. Now what is we drafted Eason with our second pick, would you move 38+59 and another second to get Mark Williams or (pipe dream)Kessler ?

Dame/Ant/B.Will
Ant/Hart/Keon
Eason/Nas/Winslow/GB3
Murray/Winslow/Watford/GB3
Nurk/M.Williams/Watford/GB3

That's with no free agents added. I think that team struggles for about 25 games but gets better everyday and has a shot to surprise in the playoffs.

[Tim Lehrbach]

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Nice breakdown on Griffin. Kind of questioning his motor a bit after watching.

Just getting around to watching Griffin. Can he beat or stay with NBA 3's? If he's a small 4 he's not particularly exciting.

Next up for me are his teammates.