GP2?

[DusterBuster]

Glad this is over. All I have left to say on it is **** GP2 and **** that shady pos Warriors FO. Hope the Blazers never sign another Warriors FA or make another trade with that franchise.

Double birds and don’t let the door hit ya.

[Wizenheimer]

Hollinger at The Athletic wrote about the trade:

"As for the nuts and bolts of the dispute between Portland and Golden State, the Warriors have done a much better job in the PR battle, but it’s not clear to me that they’re sitting on an ironclad case to receive any further compensation.

The core issue here (sorry) is the NBA’s requirement on medical disclosures in trades and whether Portland followed the rules. In trades, teams are required to disclose any injuries a player may have or had. They are not, technically, required to disclose how those injuries have been treated; as a result, I’m not sure any complaints about Toradol pills will get much traction. At the time of the trade, teams are given access to the other team’s electronic medical records for a given player (everything is online now, or is supposed to be); if the Blazers failed to note a legitimate injury in here, that would be a more glaring issue, and the league could penalize them."

https://theathletic.com/4190727/2023/02/13/nba-trades-news-john-hollinger/?source=user-shared-article

I bolded the part that surprised me: Hollinger is saying, it seems, that the only reporting requirement of a trade is the injury itself. Teams are not required to report treatment options they have used. If that's true, the Blazers would have not been obligated to report the oral Toradol treatments. I'd wonder if that means Portland wouldn't have been required to report any Toradol injections, even though, reportedly, they didn't use them?

seems like Hollinger is saying that unless Payton re-injured himself, and the Blazers didn't report it, the Warriors don't have much of a case.

Maybe that's why, according to Chris Haynes, the Warriors are trying to show a pattern by deflecting their grievance behind the Larry Nance trade to New Orleans last season. Even though the the Pelicans knew full well that Nance was injured and were happy to get Nance for nearly free because of the injury

[DusterBuster]

Hollinger at The Athletic wrote about the trade:

"As for the nuts and bolts of the dispute between Portland and Golden State, the Warriors have done a much better job in the PR battle, but it’s not clear to me that they’re sitting on an ironclad case to receive any further compensation.

The core issue here (sorry) is the NBA’s requirement on medical disclosures in trades and whether Portland followed the rules. In trades, teams are required to disclose any injuries a player may have or had. They are not, technically, required to disclose how those injuries have been treated; as a result, I’m not sure any complaints about Toradol pills will get much traction. At the time of the trade, teams are given access to the other team’s electronic medical records for a given player (everything is online now, or is supposed to be); if the Blazers failed to note a legitimate injury in here, that would be a more glaring issue, and the league could penalize them."

https://theathletic.com/4190727/2023/02/13/nba-trades-news-john-hollinger/?source=user-shared-article

I bolded the part that surprised me: Hollinger is saying, it seems, that the only reporting requirement of a trade is the injury itself. Teams are not required to report treatment options they have used. If that's true, the Blazers would have not been obligated to report the oral Toradol treatments. I'd wonder if that means Portland wouldn't have been required to report any Toradol injections, even though, reportedly, they didn't use them?

seems like Hollinger is saying that unless Payton re-injured himself, and the Blazers didn't report it, the Warriors don't have much of a case.

Maybe that's why, according to Chris Haynes, the Warriors are trying to show a pattern by deflecting their grievance behind the Larry Nance trade to New Orleans last season. Even though the the Pelicans knew full well that Nance was injured and were happy to get Nance for nearly free because of the injury

If you watch Bob Meyers presser, it would seem to back up your assessment. Essentially the Warriors traded for an injured player, but a player he Blazers medical staff had found clear to play, their staff did not. Different doctors, different opinions, but Meyers is claiming because Payton played the night before against the Warriors, that he was totally healthy. They didn’t do their due diligence on his injury to see how they would assess it prior to the trade, then we’re upset after the trade.

The whole presser should give anyone some fun Neil Olshey vibes. Meyers comes off as another slimy used car salesman trying to blame someone else for his own mistake. He apparently didn’t realize GP has missed 35 games this year and has at best been in and out of the lineup when he has been available, and literally based his whole understanding of Payton’s health on the one game they played against Portland right before the deadline.

That’s a you prob Bob!

[Wizenheimer]

Hollinger at The Athletic wrote about the trade:

"As for the nuts and bolts of the dispute between Portland and Golden State, the Warriors have done a much better job in the PR battle, but it’s not clear to me that they’re sitting on an ironclad case to receive any further compensation.

The core issue here (sorry) is the NBA’s requirement on medical disclosures in trades and whether Portland followed the rules. In trades, teams are required to disclose any injuries a player may have or had. They are not, technically, required to disclose how those injuries have been treated; as a result, I’m not sure any complaints about Toradol pills will get much traction. At the time of the trade, teams are given access to the other team’s electronic medical records for a given player (everything is online now, or is supposed to be); if the Blazers failed to note a legitimate injury in here, that would be a more glaring issue, and the league could penalize them."

https://theathletic.com/4190727/2023/02/13/nba-trades-news-john-hollinger/?source=user-shared-article

I bolded the part that surprised me: Hollinger is saying, it seems, that the only reporting requirement of a trade is the injury itself. Teams are not required to report treatment options they have used. If that's true, the Blazers would have not been obligated to report the oral Toradol treatments. I'd wonder if that means Portland wouldn't have been required to report any Toradol injections, even though, reportedly, they didn't use them?

seems like Hollinger is saying that unless Payton re-injured himself, and the Blazers didn't report it, the Warriors don't have much of a case.

Maybe that's why, according to Chris Haynes, the Warriors are trying to show a pattern by deflecting their grievance behind the Larry Nance trade to New Orleans last season. Even though the the Pelicans knew full well that Nance was injured and were happy to get Nance for nearly free because of the injury

If you watch Bob Meyers presser, it would seem to back up your assessment. Essentially the Warriors traded for an injured player, but a player he Blazers medical staff had found clear to play, their staff did not. Different doctors, different opinions, but Meyers is claiming because Payton played the night before against the Warriors, that he was totally healthy. They didn’t do their due diligence on his injury to see how they would assess it prior to the trade, then we’re upset after the trade.

The whole presser should give anyone some fun Neil Olshey vibes. Meyers comes off as another slimy used car salesman trying to blame someone else for his own mistake. He apparently didn’t realize GP has missed 35 games this year and has at best been in and out of the lineup when he has been available, and literally based his whole understanding of Payton’s health on the one game they played against Portland right before the deadline.

That’s a you prob Bob!

I din't watch the presser but that's what I pay you for....good job! (check is in the mail)

[DusterBuster]

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[DusterBuster]

Those sneaky Blazers, hiding from Bob all those box scores from the 90% of games played where Payton was out because of injury.

[Wizenheimer]

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that's excellent, and funny as hell....I'm stealing it!

[monopoman]

What's also hilarious is this injury occurred when he was a Warrior. The Warriors should have the most data on the injury it occurred while he was playing for their team.

Unless this is related to a second injury which I don't believe there is one, he might have had a sprain or something as a Blazer but that was nowhere near something that would keep him sidelined for more than a few games.

[PDXKnight]

What's also hilarious is this injury occurred when he was a Warrior. The Warriors should have the most data on the injury it occurred while he was playing for their team.

Unless this is related to a second injury which I don't believe there is one, he might have had a sprain or something as a Blazer but that was nowhere near something that would keep him sidelined for more than a few games.

In a small way it feels like karma for the Festus signing

And this does feel like a continuation of the same injury indeed so I'm not sure why there's so much of a gripe here especially after they chose to go through with the deal still. Whatever their motivation (obviously financial) they had the choice in their hands

[Case2012]

Matisse did more in 3 qtrs than Gary did in 14 games or whatever it feels like. It's wild he couldn't get minutes in Philly, Rivers is not a good coach. It's hard to believe josh and Matisse are the same height, he plays much bigger. Having him in the starting line up next to Grant is going to be big for us.

I wonder what Simons and our potential lottery pick can bring back? I would love to keep adding size. Maybe the price will go down on OG since he'll be expiring next year.

Something like Simons and the 11th pick for OG? Feels like a massive overpay when it should be straight up imo. Idk, I just love the idea of 2 all defense wings starting next to Dame with Matisse at the 2(especially if he keeps hitting those 3s!) OG at the 3 with Grant at 4. Hopefully we upgrade the 5 somehow. I'm still hoping for Turner with something like Nurkic, Nas, keon and the NY pick? But other teams will probably beat that if they don't decide to keep him.

Anyways, having a super long defensive starting line up would be awesome. Matisse/OG/Grant/Turner would be the near ideal complimentary players next to Dame if a second star doesn't become available.

[monopoman]

Matisse sure looked damn good in his first Blazer game, hopefully he can keep it up.