show me one realistic Dame trade

[DusterBuster]

I’m not a Heat or Blazers fan I’m just posting on a site called RealGM. As you were.

It's not bad in theory. Some of us are a little short because we have some people coming over, not you, who keep trying to tell us we have to trade Dame and we have to trade him for the bad packages they offer because it's what they want.

Like wiz said, we can't trade Dame during the draft. Portland would want a 20206 pick, I think, which Miami can't offer. Also we would reroute Herro to someone else for a pick or an asset. He doesn't have a place here.

I do appreciate you came and made trade ideas that actually are reasonable and aren't for a team you root for and are telling us we have to take it. Sorry you got snapped at.

It's just a bit exhausting for some of us right now.

Yeah, I’ll take the L on this one, it’s just been exhausting having outside fans peddle trash trades on the daily as I’ve mentioned and as TSE explained.

It’s one thing to have to deal with it weekly in the national media (ESPN, Steven A Smith and Bill Simmons to be specific), but then to have fans coming to this board with awful trades because “YOU HAVE TO TRADE DAME!!!!11!!1!1!1” is **** exhausting.

[Pattycakes]

Just curious what Blazers fans think of this proposal… go easy on me;

Heat trade:

G Kyle Lowry
G Tyler Herro
F Caleb Martin
F Nikola Jovic
2023 1st Round Pick #18 Overall
2027 1st Round Pick

Blazers trade:

G Damian Lillard
G Keon Johnson
F Nasir Little
F Jabari Walker

As a side note, I’d move Simons for Joe Harris, #21, and #22.

G Scoot Henderson/Kyle Lowry
G Tyler Herro/Jordan Hawkins
F Shaeden Sharpe/Joe Harris/Rayan Rupert
F Caleb Martin/Nikola Jovic
C Jusuf Nurkic/Noah Clowney

Respectfully, blazers have no need for Herro which is the real value being presented, so the only real way to make this feasible is to turn him into a top 10 pick from someone… the Simons trade is mid. We’re probably looking for an actual vet moving him, but if we just want to dump his contract (which were not) then I guess this is decent. Nice shots but we need to figure out the above gaps..

[Butter]

I can't see any Heat trade that doesn't send Bam to the Blazers.

[DusterBuster]

Just curious what Blazers fans think of this proposal… go easy on me;

Heat trade:

G Kyle Lowry
G Tyler Herro
F Caleb Martin
F Nikola Jovic
2023 1st Round Pick #18 Overall
2027 1st Round Pick

Blazers trade:

G Damian Lillard
G Keon Johnson
F Nasir Little
F Jabari Walker

As a side note, I’d move Simons for Joe Harris, #21, and #22.

G Scoot Henderson/Kyle Lowry
G Tyler Herro/Jordan Hawkins
F Shaeden Sharpe/Joe Harris/Rayan Rupert
F Caleb Martin/Nikola Jovic
C Jusuf Nurkic/Noah Clowney

Respectfully, blazers have no need for Herro which is the real value being presented, so the only real way to make this feasible is to turn him into a top 10 pick from someone… the Simons trade is mid. We’re probably looking for an actual vet moving him, but if we just want to dump his contract (which were not) then I guess this is decent. Nice shots but we need to figure out the above gaps..

Yeah, Herro has no fit in Portland. That said… he would undoubtedly be a core piece of any Dame to Miami deal. I think any Dame to Miami deal will be a 3 team deal with Herro getting redirected somewhere else for more picks and prospects. He has enough value to a team that would want him that Portland can get extra value back in a Dame deal.

It’s why I think if Dame gets moved, it’s probably to Miami with their picks coming back and Herro going to another team for like 2-3 firsts. Not sure who that third team may be for Herro tho… maybe Charlotte? If they’re taking Miller as expected, trade some future capital for Herro in the deal, that gives them an interesting starting 5…

Ball
Herro
Miller
Bridges
Williams

Maybe even Portland can unload Nurkic to them too?

[The Sebastian Express]

Just curious what Blazers fans think of this proposal… go easy on me;

Heat trade:

G Kyle Lowry
G Tyler Herro
F Caleb Martin
F Nikola Jovic
2023 1st Round Pick #18 Overall
2027 1st Round Pick

Blazers trade:

G Damian Lillard
G Keon Johnson
F Nasir Little
F Jabari Walker

As a side note, I’d move Simons for Joe Harris, #21, and #22.

G Scoot Henderson/Kyle Lowry
G Tyler Herro/Jordan Hawkins
F Shaeden Sharpe/Joe Harris/Rayan Rupert
F Caleb Martin/Nikola Jovic
C Jusuf Nurkic/Noah Clowney

Respectfully, blazers have no need for Herro which is the real value being presented, so the only real way to make this feasible is to turn him into a top 10 pick from someone… the Simons trade is mid. We’re probably looking for an actual vet moving him, but if we just want to dump his contract (which were not) then I guess this is decent. Nice shots but we need to figure out the above gaps..

Yeah, Herro has no fit in Portland. That said… he would undoubtedly be a core piece of any Dame to Miami deal. I think any Dame to Miami deal will be a 3 team deal with Herro getting redirected somewhere else for more picks and prospects. He has enough value to a team that would want him that Portland can get extra value back in a Dame deal.

It’s why I think if Dame gets moved, it’s probably to Miami with their picks coming back and Herro going to another team for like 2-3 firsts. Not sure who that third team may be for Herro tho… maybe Charlotte? If they’re taking Miller as expected, trade some future capital for Herro in the deal, that gives them an interesting starting 5…

Ball
Herro
Miller
Bridges
Williams

Maybe even Portland can unload Nurkic to them too?

I believe Charlotte has a future first owed to someone?

[DusterBuster]

Respectfully, blazers have no need for Herro which is the real value being presented, so the only real way to make this feasible is to turn him into a top 10 pick from someone… the Simons trade is mid. We’re probably looking for an actual vet moving him, but if we just want to dump his contract (which were not) then I guess this is decent. Nice shots but we need to figure out the above gaps..

Yeah, Herro has no fit in Portland. That said… he would undoubtedly be a core piece of any Dame to Miami deal. I think any Dame to Miami deal will be a 3 team deal with Herro getting redirected somewhere else for more picks and prospects. He has enough value to a team that would want him that Portland can get extra value back in a Dame deal.

It’s why I think if Dame gets moved, it’s probably to Miami with their picks coming back and Herro going to another team for like 2-3 firsts. Not sure who that third team may be for Herro tho… maybe Charlotte? If they’re taking Miller as expected, trade some future capital for Herro in the deal, that gives them an interesting starting 5…

Ball
Herro
Miller
Bridges
Williams

Maybe even Portland can unload Nurkic to them too?

I believe Charlotte has a future first owed to someone?

Maybe. I barely even remember the Hornets exist lol, so it’s entirely possible. I would think the Heat would prefer it that the third team Herro goes to isn’t a Top 4 eastern team, so I would think Sixers, Boston and Milwaukee are out. Milwaukee and Sixers are low on assets, and Boston doesn’t need him, so probably fine there. I could see Magic, Raptors, Pacers and Pistons being interested in Herro. Seems like a good fit for a younger team building who still have a lot of guys on rookie deals. Rockets maybe too if Harden stays put in Philly. I think Rockets have had previous interest in Herro.

[m0ng0]

So this revelation about Dame not being tradable came from that extension yes? Strike 2 Cronin!!! dumb dumb and dumber. "If" that is true that's f00king unforgivable, it didn't need to be done and Dame kinda wants out (imo) already

[DusterBuster]

So this revelation about Dame not being tradable came from that extension yes? Strike 2 Cronin!!! dumb dumb and dumber. "If" that is true that's f00king unforgivable, it didn't need to be done and Dame kinda wants out (imo) already

The "revelation" is nonsense and classic RealGM overthink. Anyone believing he's not tradable need to get off the internet for a few days.

[tester551]

So this revelation about Dame not being tradable came from that extension yes? Strike 2 Cronin!!! dumb dumb and dumber. "If" that is true that's f00king unforgivable, it didn't need to be done and Dame kinda wants out (imo) already

The "revelation" is nonsense and classic RealGM overthink. Anyone believing he's not tradable need to get off the internet for a few days.

Due to CBA requirements, Dame is NOT tradable until July 10th. It's neither a revelation, nor is it a big deal.

Everything can be agreed to ahead of time & just executed in July. I do think it's a moot point though. The earliest that I can see Dame asking out is in late July (after FA is complete).

Most likely, I think he begins the season with the Blazers & asks out in December depending upon how the early part of the season is going.

[m0ng0]

Good stuff, Did Dames extension cause this?

[DusterBuster]

So this revelation about Dame not being tradable came from that extension yes? Strike 2 Cronin!!! dumb dumb and dumber. "If" that is true that's f00king unforgivable, it didn't need to be done and Dame kinda wants out (imo) already

The "revelation" is nonsense and classic RealGM overthink. Anyone believing he's not tradable need to get off the internet for a few days.

Due to CBA requirements, Dame is NOT tradable until July 10th. It's neither a revelation, nor is it a big deal.

Everything can be agreed to ahead of time & just executed in July. I do think it's a moot point though. The earliest that I can see Dame asking out is in late July (after FA is complete).

Most likely, I think he begins the season with the Blazers & asks out in December depending upon how the early part of the season is going.

Oh fair, I was thinking it was another "he's overpaid and no one will want his contract!!!" posts. That's my bad.

Still don't really see why it was such a "HUGEEEEE STIKE!!!", I don't think they would have entertained trading him before or during this draft regardless. It's been pretty clear from the get-go both sides want this summer to play before having "another conversation".

I think your timeline looks spot on of the plan and it doesnt even seem like it was that secret of a plan, so not sure why m0ng0 is throwing a fit, but w/e.

[m0ng0]

I wouldn't say I was throwing a fit but it seems silly to limit your options by appeasing a star player by extending him when there really was no reason for it other than please Dame we love you don't leave and we will try better? In doing so you have handcuffed this team to Dame or bust in that we have lost all flexibility to trade him, his salary makes him even less desirable and in reality he could demand a trade anyways and we have lost the ability to build thru the draft this year.

[DusterBuster]

I wouldn't say I was throwing a fit but it seems silly to limit your options by appeasing a star player by extending him when there really was no reason for it other than please Dame we love you don't leave and we will try better? In doing so you have handcuffed this team to Dame or bust in that we have lost all flexibility to trade him, his salary makes him even less desirable and in reality he could demand a trade anyways and we have lost the ability to build thru the draft this year.

I don't see how this was something in Cornin's control. It was a rule in the CBA after signing him and the stated goal has always been to try and give Dame a chance to win here this summer vs a full rebuild. So the "handcuffing" you see is hardly that since it was never an option they were considering at this time anyway and by the time they will consider it, that won't be an issue.

A team getting "handcuffed" is like what Olshey did by trading a 1st round pick with 285903 years of lottery protection on it to Chicago for a 10th man. Now THAT is how you truly handcuff a team. Your point is just simply being upset the team cant do what you want them to do (and that they weren't considering) for like 6 weeks lol.

So while I missed your original point, my point about overthinking or getting upset over literally an extremely minor detail that is inescapable due to the CBA is still very valid.

[Wizenheimer]

I wouldn't say I was throwing a fit but it seems silly to limit your options by appeasing a star player by extending him when there really was no reason for it other than please Dame we love you don't leave and we will try better? In doing so you have handcuffed this team to Dame or bust in that we have lost all flexibility to trade him, his salary makes him even less desirable and in reality he could demand a trade anyways and we have lost the ability to build thru the draft this year.

c'mon man...it's a CBA rule and any/every/all players who sign an extension, while under contract, can't be traded for a year if the extension is not immediately a component of a S&T. That's been a CBA provision for years now. Whining about it makes no sense. By the way, the rule is a good rule because it prevents teams from circumventing S&T provisions.

I do not agree with those who say it's simple to make draft selections than complete the trade 3 weeks later. Yes, it's possible but just too many potential monkey-wrenches can wreck deal

in Dame's case it doesn't matter. Portland will not trade dame unless he asks to be traded and he was never going to do that at the draft. That ask probably won't happen, if it ever does, till around the beginning of next season

all of these trade ideas where Portland somehow gets any 2023 draft picks in return for Dame are completely unrealistic and wishful-thinking nonsense

[m0ng0]

I appreciate your response, didn't Simons sign a contract extension also?

[Wizenheimer]

I appreciate your response, didn't Simons sign a contract extension also?

technically no...his rookie scale contract had expired and he was not under contract to Portland. A QO doesn't count as a contract until it's signed by the player

[m0ng0]

I appreciate your response, didn't Simons sign a contract extension also?

technically no...his rookie scale contract had expired and he was not under contract to Portland. A QO doesn't count as a contract until it's signed by the player

Ok I appreciate the clarification, thank you