The NBENFANT Thread (NBA): 2023-2024 Edition!

[zzaj]

Been a fun 4 years on these boards, but man this was a tough way to go out. I'll see how long this lasts as RG is one of those things that has you back when you find 5 mins of spare time, but I think Imma be gone for good or a while, more likely for good. I deserve it just for that god dang jinx to end all jinxs. If there is one thing I know that is absolutely not gonna happen in life, it's this Blazer team coming back from 3-1 down vs this Warriors team (jinx redemption?).

See ya.

Yep, sorry to see you go. I may not always agree with you but I sure value your contributions here! Good luck in your next phase...

[GreenRiddler]

man watching that game pissed me off. Westbrook got as much attention as Dame did in game 2 at Oakland. He also gave it to his big instead of forcing it like Dame did. Only his big guy actually finished at the rim. Still can't believe Plumlee shot 33% at the rim that series.

[Fitz303]

Rankings for the NBA teams' best twitter accounts: http://www.complex.com/sports/2016/05/2015-16-nba-twitter-account-rankings/

Portland came in first! Hey, we won something

[DaVoiceMaster]

2 years running Fitz!!! Nice find

[Wizenheimer]

I probably shouldn't admit this but I don't even have a phone with the capability to tweet. It does have an old-fashioned ring tone though

[GreenRiddler]

One thing that has me changing my opinion is these playoffs' passing numbers. We were top 5 with only 21asts per game these playoffs, with Dame and CJ going 1 on 1 as much as they did. Big ast teams like Atl and SA spurs couldn't pass like they did in the Reg season.

Makes me wonder if that style of play can only get you to the playoffs and that you need the star power to get you the rest of the way. It was certainly a problem for Atl the past 2 playoffs VS the superior talented Cle team and even now the Spurs VS KD and Russ. GS is the only team that has done it well the past 2 playoff runs and the Spurs did it going to b2b finals, but that is not a lot to go on.

So I don't mind if we are middling as far as passing numbers as a whole. Heck the Kings were one of the highest passing team in that NBA to boot and they are a dumpster fire.

Not saying I don't like assisted field goals. Just don't think in the playoffs every FG needs to be assisted, or can be. Facing the same team 7 games is a lot different than the regular season where you have a different team every night. Need to players that can create shots rather than have a system that create shots. I would much rather have stars who can create shots like Dame and CJ than a passing team that gets a bunch of wins in the regular season but looks like they can't win passing that way in the playoffs like Atl. Very few teams have the discipline and perquisites to do what the Spurs did in 2013 and 2014.

Korver, Horford, Carrol, Bazemore, Teague and Atl as a whole looked out of place when you actually force them to play 1 on 1 like Cle did on defense the past 2 years.

Meanwhile the Spurs looked befuddled and very touch and go. With the passing of the torch from Duncan/Parker to Kawhi/LMA VS the Clippers last year and OKC this year and it lead to a lot of Leonard head scratching 1 on 1 plays, which you could tell he can't do and doesn't look good trying to. Kawhi---0.62PPP 5.7Percentile in Iso situations in the Playoffs 10% of his possessions Couldn't filter out Mem Series but still shows he is not good at that and the eye test shows he went 1 on 1 at a higher rate vs OKC.

Leonard's 3 pt % for one fell from a ridiculous 44% in the regular season to 28% vs OKC. The difference from having to create it for yourself vs having it created for you I guess. Something Leonard never had to do, let alone in a lose or go home pressure situation like VS OKC.

The same can be said for Atl who to be fair to the Spurs have even fewer shot creators, especially on their wing. Only Teague is passable but you can mitigate this by going under his screens. Millsap had good games but good luck making him a high rate work horse.

Suddenly I feel much better about this team's prospects, not that it was low after this great year.

[GreenRiddler]

Oh man Draymond eat it.

[GreenRiddler]

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Damn Draymond!

[Downtown]

Do you guys agree with Shaq, Barkley, and Kenny Smith that it was just an unfortunate thing with Green kicking out his leg and it's just a part of basketball and no suspension is warranted?

Their argument was that yes Green intentionally kicked out his leg the same way Westbrook sometimes kicks his out towards a defender but he wasn't purposely going for a groin kick to injure Adams.

It looked like there was intent to me. If Green's leg went straight out then I could buy it but he lifted it upwards as well which is where I draw the line.

[Wizenheimer]

Do you guys agree with Shaq, Barkley, and Kenny Smith that it was just an unfortunate thing with Green kicking out his leg and it's just a part of basketball and no suspension is warranted?

Their argument was that yes Green intentionally kicked out his leg the same way Westbrook sometimes kicks his out towards a defender but he wasn't purposely going for a groin kick to injure Adams.

It looked like there was intent to me. If Green's leg went straight out then I could buy it but he lifted it upwards as well which is where I draw the line.

He clearly had intent and he clearly kicked a guy in the crotch. It was no basketball move, and after Dahtney Jones was suspended for a similar move just hours earlier, the punishment should be obvious

Shaq, Barkley, and Kenny Smith are employed by the network that gets huge bucks for televising the playoffs. It's to their employer's advantage for that series to go as long as possible. Green missing game 4 would make it likely that OKC would go up 3-1. Which team do you think TV would like to see in the finals, OKC or GS?

yeah, another conspiracy theory, but we've all watched the NBA star treatment for decades. Green should absolutely be suspended. The rules are clear and the precedent is hours old. But I'll bet he plays in game 4

[zzaj]

Do you guys agree with Shaq, Barkley, and Kenny Smith that it was just an unfortunate thing with Green kicking out his leg and it's just a part of basketball and no suspension is warranted?

Their argument was that yes Green intentionally kicked out his leg the same way Westbrook sometimes kicks his out towards a defender but he wasn't purposely going for a groin kick to injure Adams.

It looked like there was intent to me. If Green's leg went straight out then I could buy it but he lifted it upwards as well which is where I draw the line.

I feel like you can always tell by the body language of the offender after the offense. If it's unintentional there is a tiny bit of checking in on the player that got hurt and is on the ground...even if it's just looking at him. Westbrook doesn't check in on him at all.

[Wizenheimer]

Do you guys agree with Shaq, Barkley, and Kenny Smith that it was just an unfortunate thing with Green kicking out his leg and it's just a part of basketball and no suspension is warranted?

Their argument was that yes Green intentionally kicked out his leg the same way Westbrook sometimes kicks his out towards a defender but he wasn't purposely going for a groin kick to injure Adams.

It looked like there was intent to me. If Green's leg went straight out then I could buy it but he lifted it upwards as well which is where I draw the line.

I feel like you can always tell by the body language of the offender after the offense. If it's unintentional there is a tiny bit of checking in on the player that got hurt and is on the ground...even if it's just looking at him. Westbrook doesn't check in on him at all.

you mean Green don't you?

[zzaj]

Do you guys agree with Shaq, Barkley, and Kenny Smith that it was just an unfortunate thing with Green kicking out his leg and it's just a part of basketball and no suspension is warranted?

Their argument was that yes Green intentionally kicked out his leg the same way Westbrook sometimes kicks his out towards a defender but he wasn't purposely going for a groin kick to injure Adams.

It looked like there was intent to me. If Green's leg went straight out then I could buy it but he lifted it upwards as well which is where I draw the line.

I feel like you can always tell by the body language of the offender after the offense. If it's unintentional there is a tiny bit of checking in on the player that got hurt and is on the ground...even if it's just looking at him. Westbrook doesn't check in on him at all.

you mean Green don't you?

Yeah, Freudian slip...

[GreenRiddler]

Man has Draymond played poorly the last 2 games or what! You might say he has doubt they can win this one.

He is doing his usual disappearing act when 1 of Klay/Curry struggle, the real dependable player behind those 2, Finals MVP Igoudala is too dang old to save there butts every time one of the splash bros struggles like he did in the finals instead of Draymond. We all know Draymond is too afraid of the big moments to do so.

Best of all now that Dray didn't get suspended they have no excuses if they lose. They just got beat by the better team.

[GreenRiddler]

73 wins gonna be all for naught? I hope that light years ahead knowledge gets them to draft another Draymond green steal late in the 1st.

[PDXKnight]

These playoffs are proof to me that big men still have a substantial advantage in this league and maybe even moreso with some of the better teams going with small ball. The key is size with athleticism to go with it

[DusterBuster]

Morey says Rockets need a more defensive coach, management hires Mike D'Antoni. lol

Is Morey done in Houston? I have to imagine Dwight definitely is with this move.

[Wizenheimer]

Morey says Rockets need a more defensive coach, management hires Mike D'Antoni. lol

Is Morey done in Houston? I have to imagine Dwight definitely is with this move.

I think Dwight was about 75% out of the door before this. With the D'Antoni hire, he's likely not only all the way out the door, he's probably half way down the driveway

[DusterBuster]

Morey says Rockets need a more defensive coach, management hires Mike D'Antoni. lol

Is Morey done in Houston? I have to imagine Dwight definitely is with this move.

I think Dwight was about 75% out of the door before this. With the D'Antoni hire, he's likely not only all the way out the door, he's probably half way down the driveway

Here's a quote from Jason Terry less than 24 hours ago:

“I wouldn’t rule (a return) out,” Terry said in an interview with Justin Termine and Eddie Johnson on SiriusXM NBA Radio. “He has yet to opt out. Again, it’s just going to depend on if you get the right coach in there. At this point in his career, he’s not going to be the focal point offensively. They’ve made that clear. He’s gonna have to, if he remains in Houston, buy into the role fully, commit himself to setting screens, rebounding, running the floor, blocking shots and working on his free throws, obviously.”

lmao.

Yep, he's probably already booked the moving crew.

And honestly, with this, Morey may not even make an attempt to resign Dwight. He's clearly lost the trust of management by how badly he got overruled here by owner Les Alexander. Morey's gonna have to totally revamp his summer plans which originally was to focus totally on improving the Rockets defense. Now he needs to add scorers, considering he really only has one on that team.

[Shem]

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