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Re: Free agency 

Post#161 » by Blazer50 » Wed Jul 6, 2022 1:01 am

looking at Montrezl Harrell - or (sitting) LaMarcus Aldridge?
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Post#162 » by DaVoiceMaster » Wed Jul 6, 2022 1:21 am

Blazer50 wrote:looking at Montrezl Harrell - or (sitting) LaMarcus Aldridge?


I think I would stay away from Harrell.
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Re: Free agency 

Post#163 » by Blazer50 » Wed Jul 6, 2022 2:28 am

DaVoiceMaster wrote:
Blazer50 wrote:looking at Montrezl Harrell - or (sitting) LaMarcus Aldridge?


I think I would stay away from Harrell.


Just lowering my expectations - though there are worse options out there.

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Re: Free agency 

Post#164 » by BlazersBroncos » Wed Jul 6, 2022 2:57 am

His consistently horrible advanced stats and On/Off worries me re Harrell. Weed charges, could care less.
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Post#165 » by GEE » Wed Jul 6, 2022 3:49 am

Seemed like there were a ton of quality bigs available, but that list surely has dried up. If Harrell is the best option left, we are screwed and I would rather just take my chances with Watford and Eubanks. Considering we didn't move on one of those available bigs, and we grabbed a b/u PG instead, makes me even more suspicious about Dame's future. Eventually we will fill the void of PFotf. Not sure who it will be, but I do hope he is on the team in the coming weeks, not months.
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Re: Free agency 

Post#166 » by PDXKnight » Wed Jul 6, 2022 4:34 am

GEE wrote:Seemed like there were a ton of quality bigs available, but that list surely has dried up. If Harrell is the best option left, we are screwed and I would rather just take my chances with Watford and Eubanks. Considering we didn't move on one of those available bigs, and we grabbed a b/u PG instead, makes me even more suspicious about Dame's future. Eventually we will fill the void of PFotf. Not sure who it will be, but I do hope he is on the team in the coming weeks, not months.


Heck take a flyer on ed davis and hope he has something left in the tank in reserve minutes
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Post#167 » by Jsun947 » Wed Jul 6, 2022 5:31 am

Of the remaining available bigs I’d look at Gomez.

Based on that though I’d rather leave the spot open and maybe we can pick someone up as bigger pieces shift around with Durant, Kyrie, etc.

There’s a number of teams with a glut of bigs that would probably move one for our TPE after the dust is settled.
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Post#168 » by Case2012 » Wed Jul 6, 2022 5:45 am

Why didn't we sign Warren?... Why?... He would rather play for a team that's about to blow up and trade it's best players? I think he signed for the minimum too. We could've offered the bae right?

We need a starting sf and he was just sitting there for 4 days. I don't get it.
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Re: Free agency 

Post#169 » by DeBlazerRiddem » Wed Jul 6, 2022 5:55 am

Roles we still need, in no particular order

Pass first PG - When Dame and Simons both sit, get someone who can run an offense for the other players out there. Must play decent defense.

Sniper with size: All our shooters are 6'5 or below. Someone bigger than 6'8 whose primary job is to spot up for 3.

7 foot bruiser: Nurkic is foul prone, we need someone who can come in, get physical, take up space and rebound.



I am not super thrilled with our current role players. We basically have 5 real players. Watford, Eubanks, Winslow, Johnson, Little, Didi, Brown and Hughes is a lot of roster spots that I think will combine for minimal production, its just an atrocious bench worthy of Olshey.
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Post#170 » by Jsun947 » Wed Jul 6, 2022 8:10 am

DeBlazerRiddem wrote:Roles we still need, in no particular order

Pass first PG - When Dame and Simons both sit, get someone who can run an offense for the other players out there. Must play decent defense.

Sniper with size: All our shooters are 6'5 or below. Someone bigger than 6'8 whose primary job is to spot up for 3.

7 foot bruiser: Nurkic is foul prone, we need someone who can come in, get physical, take up space and rebound.



I am not super thrilled with our current role players. We basically have 5 real players. Watford, Eubanks, Winslow, Johnson, Little, Didi, Brown and Hughes is a lot of roster spots that I think will combine for minimal production, its just an atrocious bench worthy of Olshey.


When Dame is on the bench Simons will be effectively playing PG. Payton can play next to either Dame or Simons when one is on the bench, and Hart can slide over to SG in some of those minutes as well. We’ll virtually never see Payton and Hart on the floor at PG/SG together unless Dame or Simons is unavailable to play. My guess is we’ll have Brandon Williams again on a two way contract. Our Guard minutes really shouldn’t be a concern.

Hart will see most of his minutes at SF, and while that’s not optimal, short of an upgrade that doesn’t seem to be available at the moment it is what it is. Little is fine as a back up there as well and I actually like Didi as a third stringer in development.

Our back up PF & C minutes behind Grant & Nurkic are a mess. Winslow is too small, Brown isn’t ready, Watford & Eubanks I’m not convinced are NBA quality players. Then on top of that Nurkic & Grant have been very injury prone the last few years so we’re really going to be depending on these guys.

On a scale of 1-10 our depth at PF and C is easily a 1…. It’s really absolutely terrible and to make it even worse we’re compounding that on our undersized and lack luster SF rotation.

It’s so bad that if there isn’t a plan to address this in the immediate future it’s almost a fireable offense as a GM when your team is supposed to be competing.
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Post#171 » by Dame Lizard » Wed Jul 6, 2022 8:23 am

Jsun947 wrote:
DeBlazerRiddem wrote:Roles we still need, in no particular order

Pass first PG - When Dame and Simons both sit, get someone who can run an offense for the other players out there. Must play decent defense.

Sniper with size: All our shooters are 6'5 or below. Someone bigger than 6'8 whose primary job is to spot up for 3.

7 foot bruiser: Nurkic is foul prone, we need someone who can come in, get physical, take up space and rebound.



I am not super thrilled with our current role players. We basically have 5 real players. Watford, Eubanks, Winslow, Johnson, Little, Didi, Brown and Hughes is a lot of roster spots that I think will combine for minimal production, its just an atrocious bench worthy of Olshey.


When Dame is on the bench Simons will be effectively playing PG. Payton can play next to either Dame or Simons when one is on the bench, and Hart can slide over to SG in some of those minutes as well. We’ll virtually never see Payton and Hart on the floor at PG/SG together unless Dame or Simons is unavailable to play. My guess is we’ll have Brandon Williams again on a two way contract. Our Guard minutes really shouldn’t be a concern.

Hart will see most of his minutes at SF, and while that’s not optimal, short of an upgrade that doesn’t seem to be available at the moment it is what it is. Little is fine as a back up there as well and I actually like Didi as a third stringer in development.

Our back up PF & C minutes behind Grant & Nurkic are a mess. Winslow is too small, Brown isn’t ready, Watford & Eubanks I’m not convinced are NBA quality players. Then on top of that Nurkic & Grant have been very injury prone the last few years so we’re really going to be depending on these guys.

On a scale of 1-10 our depth at PF and C is easily a 1…. It’s really absolutely terrible and to make it even worse we’re compounding that on our undersized and lack luster SF rotation.

It’s so bad that if there isn’t a plan to address this in the immediate future it’s almost a fireable offense as a GM when your team is supposed to be competing.
Agreed with this.

I'm fine with our PG situation. Sure, we don't have a pure pass first type of player on the roster (think Steve Blake), but while Dame and Ant are on the team together, they'll split the 48 mpg at the PG position.

We are in absolute dire need of big man depth. Ideally we'd sign someone who can play both PF/C.
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Post#172 » by Case2012 » Wed Jul 6, 2022 5:10 pm

So we're waiving bledsoe... Our salary cap guru traded for him for flexibility in deals then couldn't get one done. Hard capped us with Payton and now he's waiving and stretching Bledsoe (hmm, olshey's favorite move, I wonder where he learned that from?). So we traded Powell and Roco for Keon and a second. You're really telling me that we couldn't have just kept Powell and traded him during the draft for something? What a tremendous waste of assets. We're still weak at the forward and center. Oh and waiving Bledsoe means we can't use the bae!! The Blazers are a joke. Waiting for a Dame trade request at this point. We still lack playmaking, rebounding, and shooting. Another putrid off season, but it's not surprising given Cronin was groomed by olshey. More of the same.
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Re: Free agency 

Post#173 » by BlazersBroncos » Wed Jul 6, 2022 5:30 pm

Case2012 wrote:Why didn't we sign Warren?... Why?... He would rather play for a team that's about to blow up and trade it's best players? I think he signed for the minimum too. We could've offered the bae right?

We need a starting sf and he was just sitting there for 4 days. I don't get it.


TJ was a PF before the injury and with 2 years in street clothes you can bet he is even more of a PF today. He isnt a better SF than Josh Hart.

Bledsoe may have retuned something like Tim Hardaway JR but really is that worth it? I dont see a viable player we could have flipped Bledsoe for without adding at least a FRP.

Everyone should just pretend Hart is 6'7 or something to alleviate the doom-and-gloom. He plays about that size anyways.

The main weak spot is backup C, but we clearly liked what the cost-to-production ration Eubanks and Watford provide. Wouldnt take a has-been like LMA over that platoon at this point. Winslow is the backup PF, and a guy that we target specifically in that LAC deal - face it Billups is building this roster as much as anyone and he wants high motor defenders, he was 100% involved in that LAC deal; Keon and Winslow are the types that will remind him of the Pistons toughness and defense from back in the day.

We were never coming out of this offseason as a true contender, what we built is fine. I assume it shakes out like this for opening day:

G - Damian Lillard / Anfernee Simons / Keon Johnson
G - Anfernee Simons / Gary Payton II / Shadeon Sharpe / Keon Johnson
F - Josh Hart / Nas Little / Shadeon Sharpe / Jabari Walker
F - Jerami Grant / Justice Winslow / Greg Brown
C - Jusuf Nurkic / Drew Eubanks / Trendon Watford
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Post#174 » by Case2012 » Wed Jul 6, 2022 5:40 pm

Warren is wayyyyy better than Hart LMAO. Even if he played the 4, Grant can play the 3. I'm sorry, you can't justify not going after Warren. We need size. Pretending Hart is 6'7 isn't going to make him 6'7.

Winslow is a big dude but he's also 6'5. I would much rather have him as the back up 3.

We talked about getting bigger, but we didn't... It seems like all the obvious moves a bunch of forum posters can figure out all seem lost on the blazers front office... It's actually impressive how bad they are at this. Take Dame off this team and we're a bottom five team. With Dame on it we're fighting for the play in. Dame's been asking for help for years and we still refuse to push our chips in. Is olshey secretly pulling the strings from the shadows? Sure seems like more of the same bs.
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Re: Free agency 

Post#175 » by Norm2953 » Wed Jul 6, 2022 5:47 pm

There are still moves to be made after we get under and stay under the tax line.

Portland still has a surplus of guards and can move one of their guards for a developmental
player that might give them a few minutes for the team has to know Watford/Eubanks
won't do if Nurk gets hurt (again).
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Post#176 » by Jsun947 » Wed Jul 6, 2022 5:49 pm

SAS/HOU/OKC/SAC/Utah are pretty clearly 11-15

Portland is probably the favorite to be 10th in the conference as of right now. Short if injuries throughout the league that’s probably fairly close to our ceiling. If Nurk and/or Grant and/or Dame go down our floor is probably 12th.

That’s what all the tanking got us.
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Post#177 » by Norm2953 » Wed Jul 6, 2022 6:05 pm

It's not the end of the world and likely the best thing for this franchise to be in the lottery
for the 2023 draft is just loaded with front court players and has a franchise altering talent
in Victor.

I'd be perfectly content if we drafted 7 again and drafted one of those guys to team up with
Portland's young core of Simons, Sharpe, Little. If we traded Dame for picks/pick swaps + ?
we'd be following the path of OKC, Houston, Utah and the SAS. I'd rather follow that path
as opposed to hovering around the tax line with a team that seems destined for a first round
exit.
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Post#178 » by BlazersBroncos » Wed Jul 6, 2022 6:17 pm

Case2012 wrote:Warren is wayyyyy better than Hart LMAO. Even if he played the 4, Grant can play the 3. I'm sorry, you can't justify not going after Warren. We need size. Pretending Hart is 6'7 isn't going to make him 6'7.


Warren doesnt play defense and has never contributed meaningful minutes on a good team, not to mention he is coming off a 2 year injury hiatus. He is worse at everything that Josh does other than volume shooting. If you want an iso offensive player, sure TJ is a better fit. I dont think we need another iso centric guy.

By all metrics Josh is a better defender, rebounder, passer and from the eye test he makes far more 'winning' plays than TJ ever did. Warren is a forward version of Jamal Crawford / Jordan Clarkson - sexy raw offensive stats w/ little impact to getting W's.

Hart is better than TJ if you want to win games and its not particularly close.
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Post#179 » by Norm2953 » Wed Jul 6, 2022 6:26 pm

Interesting to see the Grant trade is now official with Grant going to Portland for 36, Milwaukee pick
and two other SRP in 25,26.

Interesting the release mentions Portland also getting French big Ismael Kamagate in deal as the 46th
pick. I thought I understood his draft rights went to Denver for a 2024 SRP.
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Post#180 » by Blazers98 » Wed Jul 6, 2022 6:35 pm

I'm much more concerned about signing another big than worrying about an SF, although, I would have liked to have taken a risk on Warren for that price. Let's face it, we need someone to fill in for Nurk when he gets hurt and can actually play as a starter with heavy minutes.
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