Summer League 2025

[DusterBuster]

Read on Twitter

[JRoy]

Gotta save some for Galactus.

[DaVoiceMaster]

They did not. Tonights the final game of SL for the Blazers.

You mean Saturday?

Yeah prob, I might have that wrong.

Saturday at 6:30pm on NBATV.

[DusterBuster]

You mean Saturday?

Yeah prob, I might have that wrong.

Saturday at 6:30pm on NBATV.

Yang ain't playing, so I'm skipping that one.

[JRoy]

Yeah prob, I might have that wrong.

Saturday at 6:30pm on NBATV.

Yang ain't playing, so I'm skipping that one.

Yeah I don’t need to see anymore of those terrible guards.

[DaVoiceMaster]

Don't have NBATV so I won't be watching either.

[zzaj]

Honest question - What’s the point of having a SL tournament if the 1-2 best players on every team sit out the last 1-2 games?

[Wizenheimer]

Honest question - What’s the point of having a SL tournament if the 1-2 best players on every team sit out the last 1-2 games?

there is really no point to summer league for 1st round picks and rotational players. Flagg only played 2 games. Teams shut down the better players early pretty consistently....and that trend will get super-charged after Queen's injury

G-League experience is more valuable than SL experience

SL is basically an excuse for NBA executives and veterans to spend time in Vegas around other executives and veterans. And it gives those executives a chance to look at candidates for 15th roster spots, 2-way contracts, G-League spots, and later in the season, 10-day contracts

but SL tells you absolutely nothing about the good players. Which is why it's nuts there are all these Hansen<-->Jokic comparisons. It's a hype train flying off the rails

[Walton1one]

Summer League\Per 36 (I bolded top 2/3 in each category)...

MP - PTS - TS% - DRB - ORB - AST - BLK

Yang: 99 - 15.6 - 55.8% - 4.5 - 1.5 - 5.5 - 3.3
Beringer: 93 - 10.5 - 57.7% - 8.9 - 4.6 - 2.3 - 3.9
Newell: 100 - 19.4 - 57.5% - 10.1 - 3.2 - 1.4 - 1.1
Kalkbrenner: 150 - 13.9 - 62.4% - 8.6 - 2.6 - 1.9 - 2.4
Raynaud: 123 - 18.7 - 53.9% - 6.7 - 2.3 - 2 - 1.5

Guys they chose not to take:

Essengue: 74 - 18.5 - 51.7% - 4.6 - 2.9 - 1 - 1
Bryant: 145 - 10.9 - 41.2% - 0 - .5 - 1.7 - 2.5
Jakucionis: 146 - 14.1 - 51.8% - 2.9 - 1 - 3.7 - .2
Clifford: 168 - 19.5 - 58.3% - 10.1 - .9 - 5.4 - .6

Did not include Fleming, Riley or McNeeley as they all played only 50min or so...

The best center in SL, was Joan Beringer....bad Per36 rebounding numbers from Yang

[url]

Read on Twitter

[/url]

[Wizenheimer]

Summer League\Per 36 (I bolded top 2/3 in each category)...

MP - PTS - TS% - DRB - ORB - AST - BLK

Yang: 99 - 15.6 - 55.8% - 4.5 - 1.5 - 5.5 - 3.3
Beringer: 93 - 10.5 - 57.7% - 8.9 - 4.6 - 2.3 - 3.9
Newell: 100 - 19.4 - 57.5% - 10.1 - 3.2 - 1.4 - 1.1
Kalkbrenner: 150 - 13.9 - 62.4% - 8.6 - 2.6 - 1.9 - 2.4
Raynaud: 123 - 18.7 - 53.9% - 6.7 - 2.3 - 2 - 1.5

Guys they chose not to take:

Essengue: 74 - 18.5 - 51.7% - 4.6 - 2.9 - 1 - 1
Bryant: 145 - 10.9 - 41.2% - 0 - .5 - 1.7 - 2.5
Jakucionis: 146 - 14.1 - 51.8% - 2.9 - 1 - 3.7 - .2
Clifford: 168 - 19.5 - 58.3% - 10.1 - .9 - 5.4 - .6

Did not include Fleming, Riley or McNeeley as they all played only 50min or so...

The best center in SL, was Joan Beringer....bad Per36 rebounding numbers from Yang

[url]

Read on Twitter

[/url]

Hansen did some good things and he showed decent enough mobility and footwork around the paint. Like Clingan, he's going to have limited mobility sideline to sideline and top of arc to rim. His slow marks at the combine in lane agility and 3/4 sprint showed up at times in the half court on both ends of the floor

and yes, he was kind of disappointing as a rebounder; too often caught flat-footed and slow reacting IMO. His passing was encouraging but his nearly 1:1 assist/turnover totals in 96 CBA games carried over into SL: 15 assists & 15 turnovers. He seems to have good BBIQ so I'd expect he'll get better at that; might take a season or 2 though

[DusterBuster]

Summer League\Per 36 (I bolded top 2/3 in each category)...

MP - PTS - TS% - DRB - ORB - AST - BLK

Yang: 99 - 15.6 - 55.8% - 4.5 - 1.5 - 5.5 - 3.3
Beringer: 93 - 10.5 - 57.7% - 8.9 - 4.6 - 2.3 - 3.9
Newell: 100 - 19.4 - 57.5% - 10.1 - 3.2 - 1.4 - 1.1
Kalkbrenner: 150 - 13.9 - 62.4% - 8.6 - 2.6 - 1.9 - 2.4
Raynaud: 123 - 18.7 - 53.9% - 6.7 - 2.3 - 2 - 1.5

Guys they chose not to take:

Essengue: 74 - 18.5 - 51.7% - 4.6 - 2.9 - 1 - 1
Bryant: 145 - 10.9 - 41.2% - 0 - .5 - 1.7 - 2.5
Jakucionis: 146 - 14.1 - 51.8% - 2.9 - 1 - 3.7 - .2
Clifford: 168 - 19.5 - 58.3% - 10.1 - .9 - 5.4 - .6

Did not include Fleming, Riley or McNeeley as they all played only 50min or so...

The best center in SL, was Joan Beringer....bad Per36 rebounding numbers from Yang

[url]

Read on Twitter

[/url]

Not to take anything away from the post, but man, I'm so over Per36 or most advanced stats. They tell such a small portion of the story imo. Not insignificant, but trying to use advanced stats from 4-8 summer league games... common ya'll, what are we doing here?

[DusterBuster]

Summer League\Per 36 (I bolded top 2/3 in each category)...

MP - PTS - TS% - DRB - ORB - AST - BLK

Yang: 99 - 15.6 - 55.8% - 4.5 - 1.5 - 5.5 - 3.3
Beringer: 93 - 10.5 - 57.7% - 8.9 - 4.6 - 2.3 - 3.9
Newell: 100 - 19.4 - 57.5% - 10.1 - 3.2 - 1.4 - 1.1
Kalkbrenner: 150 - 13.9 - 62.4% - 8.6 - 2.6 - 1.9 - 2.4
Raynaud: 123 - 18.7 - 53.9% - 6.7 - 2.3 - 2 - 1.5

Guys they chose not to take:

Essengue: 74 - 18.5 - 51.7% - 4.6 - 2.9 - 1 - 1
Bryant: 145 - 10.9 - 41.2% - 0 - .5 - 1.7 - 2.5
Jakucionis: 146 - 14.1 - 51.8% - 2.9 - 1 - 3.7 - .2
Clifford: 168 - 19.5 - 58.3% - 10.1 - .9 - 5.4 - .6

Did not include Fleming, Riley or McNeeley as they all played only 50min or so...

The best center in SL, was Joan Beringer....bad Per36 rebounding numbers from Yang

[url]

Read on Twitter

[/url]

Hansen did some good things and he showed decent enough mobility and footwork around the paint. Like Clingan, he's going to have limited mobility sideline to sideline and top of arc to rim. His slow marks at the combine in lane agility and 3/4 sprint showed up at times in the half court on both ends of the floor

and yes, he was kind of disappointing as a rebounder; too often caught flat-footed and slow reacting IMO. His passing was encouraging but his nearly 1:1 assist/turnover totals in 96 CBA games carried over into SL: 15 assists & 15 turnovers. He seems to have good BBIQ so I'd expect he'll get better at that; might take a season or 2 though

This is I think the right takeaway. Summer League is more of an eyetest setting. It's too small of a sample size and too lite on cohesiveness for the teams practicing to really gather anything from advanced stats.

Summer League teams are largely consisted of assistant coaches or FO people trying to work their way to a coaching spot, guys auditioning and then the rookies. They get like 4 practices a couple weeks after the draft and then expect to play together. It's glorified YMCA scrimmages with way more talented players.

Did he show some NBA level mobility, timing and touch. Yes. Did he look like a rookie with some major issues that will be magnified in the actually league. Hell yes.

Let's not overcomplicate this people.