Trade deadline, buyouts, and waivers

[PDXKnight]

Bagley isnt a player that a team in the business of winning should want.

yeah, i do think he’s a nice prospect and a decent gamble for a team in a rebuild but in Portland’s situation it’d be odd to pay a ton of talent for him

[BlazersBroncos]

yeah, i do think he’s a nice prospect and a decent gamble for a team in a rebuild but in Portland’s situation it’d be odd to pay a ton of talent for him

Even for a team in a rebuild, what does he do that will help them build for the future. He doesnt play good man defense, help defense or protect the rim. On offense he is not good enough to justify high usage, but needs high usage to be good enough to justify minutes. He is literally a bigger version of Jabari Parker. I just dont think he fits anywhere unless a team wants their 6th man bench scorer to be a PF/C which just isnt a good fit either in the current NBA IMO.

[Waynearchetype]

yeah, i do think he’s a nice prospect and a decent gamble for a team in a rebuild but in Portland’s situation it’d be odd to pay a ton of talent for him

Even for a team in a rebuild, what does he do that will help them build for the future. He doesnt play good man defense, help defense or protect the rim. On offense he is not good enough to justify high usage, but needs high usage to be good enough to justify minutes. He is literally a bigger version of Jabari Parker. I just dont think he fits anywhere unless a team wants their 6th man bench scorer to be a PF/C which just isnt a good fit either in the current NBA IMO.

There isn't a single positive defender on the Kings. DBPM Bagley is close to neutral. DWS Bagley is bad. RAPTOR defensive rating he's the 3rd best on the kings but still below average.

Defense is much more of a team game than most care to admit. I think the verdict on Bagley isn't going to be clear until we see him on a different team next year.

He does suffer from a bit of the tweener syndrome. However, he has a good 3PT%, and that alone will likely keep him in the NBA.

[DeBlazerRiddem]

When will we learn to stop going after Sacramento's failed big man projects? I didn't even like Bagley that much in his draft, just not a fit in the modern NBA, and he hasn't really shown much since.

[Norm2953]

Trading for a Bagley would be a classic buy low. NO reclamation project. I wouldn't offer much more than
Hood and perhaps some cash and if its not enough, its no big deal.

[JRoy]

Supposedly Lillard wants AG

[Waynearchetype]

Supposedly Lillard wants AG

Where are you reading that?

[Blazinaway]

Supposedly Lillard wants AG

"if true" that's ok, only thing that would worry me is an "overpay" because Dame wants him

[JRoy]

Kevin O Connor

YMMV

[PDXKnight]

Supposedly Lillard wants AG

let’s make our every decision based on what a 30 year old superstar locked up for a long time wants. that always works out well

[JRoy]

Supposedly Lillard wants AG

let’s make our every decision based on what a 30 year old superstar locked up for a long time wants. that always works out well

I’m on record as not being a fan of AG

I don’t want him at almost any cost

[PDXKnight]

Supposedly Lillard wants AG

let’s make our every decision based on what a 30 year old superstar locked up for a long time wants. that always works out well

I’m on record as not being a fan of AG

I don’t want him at almost any cost

i’m kinda 50/50, if we can get him without GTJ i’d have to consider

[PDXKnight]

Trading for a Bagley would be a classic buy low. NO reclamation project. I wouldn't offer much more than
Hood and perhaps some cash and if its not enough, its no big deal.

i kind of agree here. 14 ppg, 50 percent fg, 38 from 3 and 7 boards in 25 mpg. He seems like an aaron Gordon with less defense but those stats are productive, just clearly not worth passing on luka for

[DaVoiceMaster]

If the Blazers can get Gordon for some combination of Hood, Collins, Simon's, Giles III, Elleby, and/or a pick, I'd make that trade. You're gonna get more out of Gordon then you would out of all those players combined. I'm not looking long-term. It's all in now while Lillard and CJ are still really productive.

[DaVoiceMaster]

Where is PUP with the trade rumors? Haven't seen him around here for a while now.

[PDXKnight]

If the Blazers can get Gordon for some combination of Hood, Collins, Simon's, Giles III, Elleby, and/or a pick, I'd make that trade. You're gonna get more out of Gordon then you would out of all those players combined. I'm not looking long-term. It's all in now while Lillard and CJ are still really productive.

works for me. Though if la gets bought out i’d rather have him for free as a signing

[BlazersBroncos]

i kind of agree here. 14 ppg, 50 percent fg, 38 from 3 and 7 boards in 25 mpg. He seems like an aaron Gordon with less defense but those stats are productive, just clearly not worth passing on luka for

We wouldnt be trading for AG because of his raw stats. We would be trading for him because he can defend both forward positions and has the athleticism and bulk to matchup with the forwards that run the Western Conference, specifically in the playoffs. Bagley likely wouldnt even be a rotation guy come playoff time.

AG has never, ever been close to the right situation that maximizes his skills. He isnt cut out to be the 1st, 2nd or even 3rd best player on a team. Thats what ORL has asked of him for years now. But what he can be is a near elite 4th option who brings numerous skills that we clearly lack; another ballhandler, another passer, a quality cutter, a body that can match with nearly any SF/PF, excellent lateral mobility for his large size on defense. His shooting should only improve as a guy who gets more kickouts as well, as he hasnt played with a guy who can attack and pass near the level as Dame, or even CJ.

I love GTJ. I dont love the idea of having a SG duo making 50M combined and I really dont think he makes us as good a playoff team as having AG does. The West is falling apart in some ways, LAL has big injuries, LAC has no chemistry, UTA seems like a classic elite regular season team and DEN hasnt consistently shown the internal improvement many expected. Its not insane to say the West could be much more wide open come playoff time than expected. And for that reason making a win-now move makes all the sense in the world. It may make more sense right now than in any season the past 10 years. I think Dame may realize that. I hope the managment does too and finds a way.

[Norm2953]

How disappointed will it be if its a quiet trade deadline for it does look like AG will end up in Boston
and LA will sign with Miami.

[DaVoiceMaster]

If the Blazers can get Gordon for some combination of Hood, Collins, Simon's, Giles III, Elleby, and/or a pick, I'd make that trade. You're gonna get more out of Gordon then you would out of all those players combined. I'm not looking long-term. It's all in now while Lillard and CJ are still really productive.

works for me. Though if la gets bought out i’d rather have him for free as a signing

Why can't you have both? There is already an open roster spot.

[Roy The Natural]

How disappointed will it be if its a quiet trade deadline for it does look like AG will end up in Boston
and LA will sign with Miami.

I have no interest in Aldirdge. Would rather have McGee to be honest.