Jason Quick: Cho turning deals down for Rudy

[The Sebastian Express]

Actually the situation has been mismanaged since last year and mid-season hen Rudy requested a trade before the deadline, and KP didn't even inform Allen allegedly.

[DeBlazerRiddem]

I like Cho already

[blazers73]

If Rudy is going to hold out, he won't play, and he will not play in any FIBA league, so he would essentially throw away millions... Rudy can't afford to do that.

I think Rudy is playing chicken with the wrong guys. Cho has said all the right things and PA could care less about the money. I don't assume to know how it works but if Rudy doesn't show, then he would get fined the amount of the contract right? It hurts Rudy a lot and it doesn't hurt this team much. He's demonstrated a lack of professionalism, maturity and now IQ.

[Shem]

Rudy is a spoiled rotten crybaby who needs to be taught a very serious lesson. If he had just kept his mouth shut, the Blazers could have traded him for equal value by now. But since he's so spoiled, he couldn't help but open his big trap. Someone needs to explain that to him and I do hope he has to sit out for two years, but I doubt he'll learn the lesson. He'll just blame everybody else but himself. I doubt he understands the concept of take responsibility for himself and his actions.

My only regret now is that he will never play for another NBA team which means he won't be making any trips to the Rose Garden so that the fans can boo him mercilessly. If you thought Hedo Turkaglu or Darius Miles got horrible booing treatment, I guarantee their treatment will look like star treatment compare to what will be in store for Rudy.

[Blazer_Dreamer]

FYI... a cookie goes to whomever can figure out the theme to the Cho interview.

"no va a ser intimidado por un llorón"


http://translate.google.com/translate_t?text=+not+going+to+be+bullied+&t1=en&sourceid=ie8-activity#es|en|no%20va%20a%20ser%20intimidado%20por%20un%20llor%C3%B3n


Rudy's Nickname = perra llorona

[TBpup]

FYI... a cookie goes to whomever can figure out the theme to the Cho interview.

"At the end of the day, we are going to do what is best for the organization."

"We will not make a trade just to make a trade."

Cho uttered those quotes at least 4-5 times each in that interview. It was like he was on auto-replay. I'm glad Rich is a numbers guy because he is a brutal interview. Wonder how he talks to other GMs in trade discussions? Even after the interview, the radio guys commented on how terrible he was.

[The Sebastian Express]

Well Pritchard was an amazing interview and he didn't do much in trade discussions, so.

[sisibilio]

Bulls. Won't give Gibson keeps pushing James Johnson. If Johnson is what the Bulls are offering I'm glad we are not trading with them.

Of course if it's just Johnson it's a big NO FCKING WAY.
If it's Johnson and a 2nd round it's still a no, if it's Johnson and the Bobcats pick it's a no brainer, and if it's Johnson and the Bulls 1st round pick i'd do it.

[The Sebastian Express]

A friend of mine who is a Bulls fan says Johnson is like worse than Travis BBIQ was.

Edit: I totally meant Bulls fan and not player.

[sisibilio]

Yea, Johnson is basically just an expiring to the Blazers, but he could be useful come the deadline.

[PDX MM]

Question lets say Trudy indeed doesn't show for camp and we suspend him. Does that free up that roster spot and what little cap space his deal is or would we be looking at dead space for 2 years? I am all for letting him sit in Spain for 2 years but as long as it doesn't hurt us with holding a roster spot.

[Billy]

Question lets say Trudy indeed doesn't show for camp and we suspend him. Does that free up that roster spot and what little cap space his deal is or would we be looking at dead space for 2 years? I am all for letting him sit in Spain for 2 years but as long as it doesn't hurt us with holding a roster spot.

If I remember right, in the mid nineties when Rod went AWOL, the Blazers were allowed to sign Rumeal Robinson to replace him. I would assume that the Blazers would have a similar recourse for a player who refuses to come due to wanting to be traded.

I'm guessing as far as the NBA is concerned that the Blazers are in good shape. Of course the players association will probably make a stink. But the NBA has made it pretty clear that trade demands and things of that nature don't float.

[GregB]

Just wondering? How exactly is Cho handling this well?

Everytime Rudy opens his mouth he is hurting his trade value more. You guys were offered future first for him when Cho demanded two first. Which is completely ridiculous when the team trading for him isnt sure he wont pout and demand to go back to europe if he isnt happy enough with his role.

Now since Chos recent demands it has reduced Rudys market more as teams have moved onto other options. The offers are getting worse not better. Cho should have traded him for best offer a month ago.

[Gold Chain]

I think Fernandez thinks a tad too highly of himself.

He's not a star in Portland and is not worthy of all this press he is getting.

[BballFanAddict]

Just wondering? How exactly is Cho handling this well?

Everytime Rudy opens his mouth he is hurting his trade value more. You guys were offered future first for him when Cho demanded two first. Which is completely ridiculous when the team trading for him isnt sure he wont pout and demand to go back to europe if he isnt happy enough with his role.

Now since Chos recent demands it has reduced Rudys market more as teams have moved onto other options. The offers are getting worse not better. Cho should have traded him for best offer a month ago.

With all due respect, your post is just one of a million that have been posted on this subject that throws around speculation and rumor as if fact. Do you have ANY proof whatsoever that Portland was offered a 1st from anyone? Let alone that Cho asked for 2 firsts?

What fans from other teams completely neglect to acknowldege, because all they really want is to rip off the Blazers for their own team's fortune anyway, is what if this was YOUR team. Would you want YOUR FO to give into a whiny, crying, bitching player who is demanding to not only be traded but be traded to locations of his own desire? Do you want to see YOUR team give into these type of demands?

Also, keep in mind a late 1st round means virtually NOTHING to an owner who buys them whenever he wants them.

So, I suggest you stop trying to hide behind what you think is a "fair" offer (when we all know you just want Rudy on your team for theft) and instead try to imagine your own team in this situation.

This goes for all of the idiotic, crying and critical Chicago fans that rip on the Blazer's FO as if this is their fault and Rudy is the victim. Just too funny.

Delusion and hypocrisy all wrapped in a poop tortilla.

[deanwoof]

I can envision 82 DNP - CDs next year or stashing him on the IR with PMS symptons. And the following year. We don't need to do anything with him. We already replaced him with Wes Matthews.

[SabasRevenge!]

I can envision 82 DNP - CDs next year or stashing him on the IR with PMS symptons. And the following year. We don't need to do anything with him. We already replaced him with Wes Matthews.

Thank God. Matthews epitomizes what's right with sports. He worked hard and transformed himself into an asset for his team. The guy understands that he needs to carve out a niche for himself by playing tough D and sticking shots when needed. I'm glad he got paid and I'm glad we got him.

[DeBlazerRiddem]

Agreed with BBFA. What these children from other team's forums cannot seem to understand, is that it is RUDE to come over here and say that kind of stuff just to "stir the pot". Do you think we haven't heard a Celtic fan offer those sentiments before? Think we haven't heard that same thing from numerous Chicago fans? From multiple New York fans?

You are all forgetting that there are 3 ways to measure Rudy's value. There is his innate value, what skills and talents he bring relative to his contract. He has a team value, which is what he represents and brings to the Blazers themselves. And finally he has a trade value, which is what is currently being offered for him. At the moment, his trade value is criminally below the other two values.

Innate value - Come one, do I really have to argue this? There is a reason why the thought of Rudy makes people giddy enough to find out the Portland forum and ask for him. Before Curry, Rudy broke the rookie record for 3pt shots, which he did as a back-up and role player. He is an energy player who, if you ask almost any Portland fan can testify for his ability to change games when on the top of his game.

Team value - This is the one that people are vastly underestimating. Yes, he might not even play for us this year, but even so I bet he sells more of his jerseys than it costs to pay him. He is/was a fan favorite, who was also a favorite of the owner. Unfortunately human nature makes it such that, going from being a fan favorite to pariah on the team means we still hold some residual value on him - enough that we would rather him rot than get a bum deal for him. Allen has even expressed sentiments similar to that.

Trade value - This is the embarrassingly low aspect, that fans like GregB, are interpreting as free game and blood in the water. If we are going to trade Rudy, it has to be for something that actually helps us, and certainly clear a roster spot. A late draft pick next year wont help us, we are already way overstocked on draftees, and usually buy the ones we want anyways. It would also probably be easier to trade Rudy if he had a bigger contract - instead we are not only getting bottom of the barrel offers for Rudy, but those we are getting aren't even good enough to have earned any sizable money yet, the poorest bottom of the barrel.

All this is saying is - if you are going to repeatedly offer us stupidly low offers - then you can prepare to go and suck it like every other team that has lowballed us. If you seriously cannot understand why we do not run with your offer than please do not come to this forum again and express that. We don't care that you lack any perception or insight, and that your ability to think critically has been impacted by your lack of maturity - just dont friggin' bother us with it.

[deanwoof]

^ i was just thinking about his jersey sales the other day. i'm fairly certain he's sold more jerseys to 10-50 year old women than any other player in blazers history [no facts, just pulling it out my ass].

[dagger]

With all due respect, your post is just one of a million that have been posted on this subject that throws around speculation and rumor as if fact. Do you have ANY proof whatsoever that Portland was offered a 1st from anyone? Let alone that Cho asked for 2 firsts?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5477272

A league source told ESPN.com that in late June, several teams with draft picks in the teens offered to send their pick to Portland for Fernandez, but the Blazers -- who were being run by then-general manager Kevin Pritchard -- declined.

The Celtics and Bulls have since offered their No. 1 picks in 2011, the source said, and the Knicks have offered shooting guard Wilson Chandler. But with more than a month remaining until the start of NBA training camps, Cho is waiting to see what else becomes available.