Not exactly 'shorts'....

[James72]

I'd be fine bringing Maynor back. he's only 27, wasn't spectacular but solid during his first tenure, and likely fairly motivated to prove that he still belongs in the league. I can't imagine a third string point guard getting minutes, so while Farmar and Bynum are probably better players, would they even sign with Portland knowing they're behind Lillard and Blake?

If they don't have other options.... yeah. Also, its not like they're benched for a whole year and was promised minutes, they'll know their role. Is there any contender he wouldn't be the third string?

Even if I'm a millionaire, money is still better than no money.

I prefer Farmar because i feel he has the most experience, even on contenders. He also has a perimeter game, unlike Maynor.

[Billy]

This isn't to doubt what was told to me but I get the feeling Olshey is talking to Prince's agent in a big way trying to figure out where he would go if Boston buys him out. If Prince (who is from LA I believe) says he wants to come to Portland in stead of the Clippers, no matter what he might have working for Chandler, I think he take Prince at the veteran minimum after the buy out and waive whomever to create a roster spot.

That saves a pick and keeps the youngsters although since they don't have extensions, that is a bit of a mute point.

That makes total sense to me. It's hard to imagine Prince picking us over the Clips--but that doesn't mean he wouldn't. If you do get that commitment, you could instead search for a backup SG, or perhaps consolidate a couple solid contributors into one more big bench piece.

[DaVoiceMaster]

If he wants to go with the better team, that's the Blazers. Griffin is out for a few weeks, maybe a month and a half and the team just seems to be floundering. The Blazers on the other hand seem to be a team on the rise. It's a no-brainer! : )~

[James72]

This isn't to doubt what was told to me but I get the feeling Olshey is talking to Prince's agent in a big way trying to figure out where he would go if Boston buys him out. If Prince (who is from LA I believe) says he wants to come to Portland in stead of the Clippers, no matter what he might have working for Chandler, I think he take Prince at the veteran minimum after the buy out and waive whomever to create a roster spot.

That saves a pick and keeps the youngsters although since they don't have extensions, that is a bit of a mute point.

That makes total sense to me. It's hard to imagine Prince picking us over the Clips--but that doesn't mean he wouldn't. If you do get that commitment, you could instead search for a backup SG, or perhaps consolidate a couple solid contributors into one more big bench piece.

To me it doesn't make sense to then avoid a Chandler or Afflalo deal. Both are significantly better offensively, which is what we need. We don't really want the pick, it has a lot more value to us trading it then using it, and its not like we are trading future picks, we have another one for 2016. The players mentioned outgoing do not play any sort of consistent role with us and are FA next offseason, and we wouldn't resign. So essentially, we would not really be losing anything by trading for Chandler and Afflalo while signing Prince.

[DavidSterned]

Yeah, not a fan of going after Prince and forgoing a deal for a legit bench scorer. Prince isn't much of a scorer at this point and not capable of playing major minutes for us in the playoffs if we need him to.

[Billy]

To me it doesn't make sense to then avoid a Chandler or Afflalo deal. Both are significantly better offensively, which is what we need. We don't really want the pick, it has a lot more value to us trading it then using it, and its not like we are trading future picks, we have another one for 2016. The players mentioned outgoing do not play any sort of consistent role with us and are FA next offseason, and we wouldn't resign. So essentially, we would not really be losing anything by trading for Chandler and Afflalo while signing Prince.

I think if you had a commitment for Prince, it may make sense to pursue Afflalo rather than Chandler simply for the ability to fill out additional depth and positions of need on the team. Also, I don't think Prince would sign here if he knew he'd have to share minutes directly with Chandler. I think at least with someone like Afflalo, it's conceivable that they could share court time. I think adding Prince would be great, but like you said, you still need that scorer.

[GreenRiddler]

I don't get that at all, Barton and T Rob are worthless to us. The 1st pick would be a rookie and we already have 3 solid Prospects in CJ Meyers and Crabbe.

Why forgo Wilson because of the minimal cost in favor of a washed up player who won't cost anything, but IMO wouldn't impact the game more than Crabbe?

[Wizenheimer]

Prince certainly fits Olshey's M.O. when it comes to bench transactions he's done as Blazer GM, that being to shop in the bottom of the bargain bin, even though there were excellent discounts and bargains available out on the shelves

now, all we get are rumors so maybe the actual trade discussions include critical details we don't hear about. It also could be that Paul Allen is directing things more then we know, especially financially

[Billy]

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[James72]

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Then Prince...

I am really happy if we land Prince, as long as we get someone like Afflalo or Chandler also.

Afflalo is in a poor situation and is having a pretty bad year. But i bank on his perimeter shooting being similar to years past, especially in our system which gets a lot of open looks.

His defense is not that great, and he doesn't have the versatility of Chandler, but he is much better offensively IMO.

[Billy]

I would still love to find a way to get both Afflalo and Chandler. If Denver is truly in an "all things must go!" mode, Portland could benefit strongly. If PA is willing to commit some bucks to this crew in the off-season, Portland could have quite a nice (and still fairly young) top 7-8 core.

[James72]

I would still love to find a way to get both Afflalo and Chandler. If Denver is truly in an "all things must go!" mode, Portland could benefit strongly. If PA is willing to commit some bucks to this crew in the off-season, Portland could have quite a nice (and still fairly young) top 7-8 core.

It would mean a 1st, Leonard and Crabbe or CJ.

[TBpup]

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Then Prince...

I am really happy if we land Prince, as long as we get someone like Afflalo or Chandler also.

Afflalo is in a poor situation and is having a pretty bad year. But i bank on his perimeter shooting being similar to years past, especially in our system which gets a lot of open looks.

His defense is not that great, and he doesn't have the versatility of Chandler, but he is much better offensively IMO.

I agree that Afflalo is the better player but that leaves the Blazers still with a hole at SF or a SG playing up in the 'small lineup' that Stotts seems to love. Matthews, Afflalo, CJ and Barton....lots of SG and still no legit option at SF outside of Batum.

[James72]

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Then Prince...

I am really happy if we land Prince, as long as we get someone like Afflalo or Chandler also.

Afflalo is in a poor situation and is having a pretty bad year. But i bank on his perimeter shooting being similar to years past, especially in our system which gets a lot of open looks.

His defense is not that great, and he doesn't have the versatility of Chandler, but he is much better offensively IMO.

I agree that Afflalo is the better player but that leaves the Blazers still with a hole at SF or a SG playing up in the 'small lineup' that Stotts seems to love. Matthews, Afflalo, CJ and Barton....lots of SG and still no legit option at SF outside of Batum.

I would assume Barton is gone in the trade. CJ not sure is playoff ready for a contender, and this is where I'm hoping Prince happens, gives us a decent wing defender and a 40% 3point shooter.

[TBpup]

I would assume Barton is gone in the trade. CJ not sure is playoff ready for a contender, and this is where I'm hoping Prince happens, gives us a decent wing defender and a 40% 3point shooter.

True...likely Barton would be gone but those minutes didn't even include the time Dame spends at the '2' when he and Blake are playing together. Stotts seems to like small ball and Afflalo is the better player. We just have such at hole at SF and I'd rather have a natural 6'8" SF than a 6'5" SG playing out of position.

[d-train]

I don't see the cost benefit of Chandler. First, I wouldn't even begin to consider him unless he waived the $2M guarantee money next season. I don't know if playoff money would offset his loss but regardless, he would have to agree to give up the guaranteed money.

Assuming Chandler gives up the guaranteed money next year, any trade would have to include Wright. The only thing that works is Wright and Claver for Chandler.

Wright & Clavor _FOR_ Chandler

The great benefit for the Blazers is in the consolidation of 8th man minutes into 1 player. We can do this without the trade. We have 5 guys that have shared 8th man minutes that if given all the 8th man minutes could produce as well as Chandler in that same position.

I don't object to improving the team if a trade is possible. But, we would have to aim a little higher than Chandler.

We are thin at PG and a move to add some cheap PG depth might be worth it.

[Wizenheimer]

I don't see the cost benefit of Chandler. First, I wouldn't even begin to consider him unless he waived the $2M guarantee money next season. I don't know if playoff money would offset his loss but regardless, he would have to agree to give up the guaranteed money.

Assuming Chandler gives up the guaranteed money next year, any trade would have to include Wright. The only thing that works is Wright and Claver for Chandler.

Wright & Clavor _FOR_ Chandler

TRob & Barton work for Chandler. TRob & Claver work for Afflalo. I think there's a reason why we've heard TRob is a potential outgoing Blazer, and it's because the only positive value he has is as an expiring contract

I don't object to improving the team if a trade is possible. But, we would have to aim a little higher than Chandler.

since Olshey has been the Blazer GM, other then Lopez, his free agent signings and trades have brought in:

Joel Freeland
Victor Claver
Ronnie Price
Eric Maynor
Mo Williams
Thomas Robinson
Dorell Wright
Earl Watson
Chris Kaman
Steve Blake

"aiming higher" then Chandler doesn't seem to fall into his comfort zone too often

[Goldbum]

I've been on the Chandler bandwagon all aling and I will be very upset if its AAA instead. With CJ developing and Crabbe on the roster i just think Chandler is a much better fit.

[Norm2953]

19.5 hours to go before the trade deadline. I'd be curious if Olshey will have to offer up a
sweetener to get a Chandler deal done for Denver seems to want more than T-Rob and
Will Barton and a pick. Personally I'd like to get both Affalo and Chandler for I tend to
think Chandler by himself is not enough to be the difference in a tough first round
matchup in the West.

[Ripcity4life]

I really hope TB's sources are correct cause i like AA but i would prefer Chandler. What i do wonder is i assume they would trade 2 players out and that leaves a roster spot free who besides Prince IF he gets bought out they might target.