Shams: Blazers hire Billups for HC

d-train · Post #21 » by **d-train** » Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:17 pm

I hope the coaching change works out. Billups and Lillard have a lot in common. Billups was not a good PG when he entered the NBA, but he was a great athlete. He wasn't good at managing a game or setting up his teammates. Billups learned these skills with experience in the NBA. Lillard has improved his PG skills every year, but managing the game and getting his teammates involved is still a weakness. Maybe a new messenger will change how the message is received.

Also, another box checked by Olshey. Olshey had to recruit Billups to Clippers. Olshey promised taking a smaller role with Clippers would be an inside track to achieving his goal to become a head coach. Olshey is making good on his claim.

mighty_duck · Post #22 » by **mighty_duck** » Sat Jun 26, 2021 11:43 pm

The record is hit-or-miss on NBA stars who jumped in to coaching a team in win-now mode, without (or hardly) any assistant coaching experience.
Larry Bird did great. Nash did well this past season (he had great assistants). Mchale wasn't bad.
Magic sucked. Isiah sucked. Kidd was mediocre

If we were in rebuilding mode I would be more in favor of a gamble like Billups.
Let's hope for the best, and pay top dollar for really good assistants.

Case2012 · Post #23 » by **Case2012** » Sat Jun 26, 2021 11:58 pm

This franchise is a mess. I think Jody Allen needs to sell the team. She reportedly doesn't really care about sports, which is obvious by olshey remaining in charge of the teams direction. Everyone knew he was going to hire billups because he's always loyal to his guys. Now Twitter and local media is jumping all over his decision to hire an alleged rapist over an equally, or potentially more qualified candidate in Hammons depending on how you qualify their experience.

Now Dame is on Twitter saying he didn't know about the allegations and coming at fans with animosity. This is directly a result of Neil's incompetence and hubris. He should be fired immediately for potentially distancing and alienating our generational point guard by making him look bad over this hire.

If Jody is too busy or oblivious to what olshey is doing then she shouldn't own the team. I've been thinking about this for weeks, and it just doesn't make sense that he's still in charge. Local and national media, along with most of the internet believes olshey is responsible for the failure to build a contender around Dame. Why doesn't Jody?

She should fire olshey today if she really cares about the organization and let Dame be involved in both the gm and coaching search. This is a potential public relations nightmare and the best way to save face is by firing the person responsible. Neil mother ***** olshey.

Norm2953 · Post #24 » by **Norm2953** » Sun Jun 27, 2021 12:15 am

This franchise will never be a total mess as long as Dame is invested in the team.

I'm hopeful Billips, Dame and NO are all on the same page. It has to start with re-signing Powell
for if he walks, they have no way of replacing him with no cap space or draft picks. It doesn't
take a genius to see Portland which played with one guy taller than 6-9 for most of last season
has to reinforce their front court with more size and length for they can't rely on Nurk and
Zach to stay healthy and now know they can't win in the post season with Enes Kanter playing
any real minutes. I'd be content if they broke CJ's contract into two $15 Million players but let's
see what the new coaching staff and management team decide what they wish to do this summer.

Post #25 » by **kdawg32086** » Sun Jun 27, 2021 1:13 am

Who would everyone want for assistant coaches on Chauncey's staff?

PDXKnight · Post #26 » by **PDXKnight** » Sun Jun 27, 2021 1:21 am

Case2012 wrote:This franchise is a mess. I think Jody Allen needs to sell the team. She reportedly doesn't really care about sports, which is obvious by olshey remaining in charge of the teams direction. Everyone knew he was going to hire billups because he's always loyal to his guys. Now Twitter and local media is jumping all over his decision to hire an alleged rapist over an equally, or potentially more qualified candidate in Hammons depending on how you qualify their experience.

Now Dame is on Twitter saying he didn't know about the allegations and coming at fans with animosity. This is directly a result of Neil's incompetence and hubris. He should be fired immediately for potentially distancing and alienating our generational point guard by making him look bad over this hire.

If Jody is too busy or oblivious to what olshey is doing then she shouldn't own the team. I've been thinking about this for weeks, and it just doesn't make sense that he's still in charge. Local and national media, along with most of the internet believes olshey is responsible for the failure to build a contender around Dame. Why doesn't Jody?

She should fire olshey today if she really cares about the organization and let Dame be involved in both the gm and coaching search. This is a potential public relations nightmare and the best way to save face is by firing the person responsible. Neil mother ***** olshey.

While i don’t love olshey or this hire for basketball reasons i’d say the rape allegations are questionable at best. He was accused never convicted as others pointed out to me awhile back. I’m sure they were privy to this info and did their research on the matter. Ultimately i don’t think this was a lapse, it’s media noise from prior allegations that are super questionable. I believe multiple teammates of billups were brought up in those allegations and it seems like there was no evidence that a rape occurred but if anyone has evidence to the contrary that the blazers fo (knowing how important pr is) might’ve missed i certainly welcome any evidence to the contrary

PDXKnight · Post #27 » by **PDXKnight** » Sun Jun 27, 2021 1:23 am

kdawg32086 wrote:Who would everyone want for assistant coaches on Chauncey's staff?

Hammon for a high paid lead assistant
wouldn’t shock me one bit given that Jody supposedly wanted to make her the hire.

Case2012 · Post #28 » by **Case2012** » Sun Jun 27, 2021 1:33 am

Why wouldn’t Dame request a trade from a team he’s been nothing but loyal to after getting the cancel culture treatment? He basically just said on twitter, I didn’t know about his history but if you wanna act like this screw you. How easy would it be for Olshey to say it wasn’t his fault Dame wanted a trade, he hired the guy he wanted? Maybe I’m overreacting but I could see this being the first domino in a Lillard trade.

d-train · Post #29 » by **d-train** » Sun Jun 27, 2021 2:32 am

The assistants are Chauncey's staff. They work for him. He should hire who he wants to hire. Olshey should make sure Chauncey has the infrastructure and resources to hire a staff.

Hiring assistants will be the easiest thing Chauncey does all year. He will also be sitting in on Blazers plans this summer. He will likely be a pointman for the Blazers talking with Powell and other free agents. Chauncey is a champion MVP, the only individual accolade that has any real meaning. Chaucey brings real gravitas to the Blazers.

Norm2953 · Post #30 » by **Norm2953** » Sun Jun 27, 2021 3:38 am

Oden2 wrote:
kdawg32086 wrote:Who would everyone want for assistant coaches on Chauncey's staff?

Hammon for a high paid lead assistant
wouldn’t shock me one bit given that Jody supposedly wanted to make her the hire.

Why would she leave SA to be an assistant since she's likely the heir apparent to Pop who is 72?

JasonStern · Post #31 » by **JasonStern** » Sun Jun 27, 2021 3:54 am

Read on Twitter

Sinobas · Post #32 » by **Sinobas** » Sun Jun 27, 2021 4:04 am

A lot of teams are going to interview Becky just to get the SJW brownie points, but will she ever get hired? Is she getting attention because of her skill or because she's a woman? This is akin to all the BLM propaganda that went on last summer.

Case2012 · Post #33 » by **Case2012** » Sun Jun 27, 2021 4:10 am

Read on Twitter

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This is not a positive sign.

Case2012 · Post #34 » by **Case2012** » Sun Jun 27, 2021 4:26 am

JasonStern wrote:

Read on Twitter

He’s gotta be talking about Olshey right?

elias808 · Post #35 » by **elias808** » Sun Jun 27, 2021 4:52 am

Case2012 wrote:
JasonStern wrote:

Read on Twitter

He’s gotta be talking about Olshey right?

Don't stress too hard over a random Twitter quote.

Case2012 · Post #36 » by **Case2012** » Sun Jun 27, 2021 5:10 am

elias808 wrote:
Case2012 wrote:
JasonStern wrote:

Read on Twitter

He’s gotta be talking about Olshey right?

Don't stress too hard over a random Twitter quote.

I wouldn't. This ain't some random quote, it's a veiled statement. The context and timing is what I'm worried about. The Blazers FO are letting Dame receive the backlash for this hiring and haven't released a statement about it. Instead Neo is leaking info to woj to absolve themselves of any wrongdoing without having to personally account for their decisions. This is classic olshey, showing his true colors and I think it's possible that's what Dame is indirectly referring too.

Andre 2999 · Post #37 » by **Andre 2999** » Sun Jun 27, 2021 5:12 am

elias808 wrote:
Case2012 wrote:
JasonStern wrote:

Read on Twitter

He’s gotta be talking about Olshey right?

Don't stress too hard over a random Twitter quote.

No, this is worthy of concern imo. I've seen quite a few comments from fans questioning Lillard's character, even though he's been nothing but a consummate pro here. It seems this tweet is directed at the fact that some of our fans are turning on him in 1 day, after 9 years of him being a loyal and upstanding franchise leader.

We need to make sure we don't let things get sour with Dame this summer. We just came off a disappointing season, Dame's coach of 9 years was fired, and now there's a bunch of backlash from the new hire. Dame's probably feeling pretty fed up right now.

soobias · Post #38 » by **soobias** » Sun Jun 27, 2021 5:18 am

Andre 2999 wrote:
elias808 wrote:
Case2012 wrote:
He’s gotta be talking about Olshey right?

Don't stress too hard over a random Twitter quote.

No, this is worthy of concern imo. I've seen quite a few comments from fans questioning Lillard's character, even though he's been nothing but a consummate pro here. It seems this tweet is directed at the fact that some of our fans are turning on him in 1 day, after 9 years of him being a loyal and upstanding franchise leader.

We need to make sure we don't let things get sour with Dame this summer. We just came off a disappointing season, Dame's coach of 9 years was fired, and now there's a bunch of backlash from the new hire. Dame's probably feeling pretty fed up right now.

bingo!

elias808 · Post #39 » by **elias808** » Sun Jun 27, 2021 5:24 am

At the end of the day WE WILL NEVER KNOW what happened that night back in '97.

I'm all for judging the (potential) hire of Billups based off merit and experience. Those two bullet points are why I wouldn't have hired him. But to smash a person off of a situation where there is no empirical evidence of wrong doing, is pretty buck wild in my book.

The question I ask: to those who feel SO STRONG in not hiring Billups; where were you when the Clippers hired him? Did you make your voice heard then? Did you cheer when he beat the Lakers as a player?

Or, now that this emotionally affects you; as a Blazer fan: it's something you care about?

elias808 · Post #40 » by **elias808** » Sun Jun 27, 2021 5:37 am

soobias wrote:
Andre 2999 wrote:
elias808 wrote:
Don't stress too hard over a random Twitter quote.

No, this is worthy of concern imo. I've seen quite a few comments from fans questioning Lillard's character, even though he's been nothing but a consummate pro here. It seems this tweet is directed at the fact that some of our fans are turning on him in 1 day, after 9 years of him being a loyal and upstanding franchise leader.

We need to make sure we don't let things get sour with Dame this summer. We just came off a disappointing season, Dame's coach of 9 years was fired, and now there's a bunch of backlash from the new hire. Dame's probably feeling pretty fed up right now.

bingo!

I'm well in the "trade Dame. Trade everyone. Blow it up" camp. It's a flawed roster with no wiggle room to make meaningful impact via trade, draft, or FA.

We play for championships. No one remembers who came in second.