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OG Anunoby Poll

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OG Anunoby Situation

Keep the 7th pick and let Eric Bledsoe walk
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27%
Trade the 7th pick and Eric Bledsoe for OG Anunoby
22
73%
 
Total votes: 30

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Re: OG Anunoby Poll 

Post#21 » by Norm2953 » Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:50 pm

BNM wrote:
Norm2953 wrote:I think in the end, Portland simply uses the pick themselves for Toronto doesn't have to trade
him and the player Toronto might pick if they did an OG trade, is there for Portland.

In the end, Hart + 7 is more valuable than OG if that's what Portland is offering.


It depends on the goal and who is available at 7.

If the goal is one more deep playoff run for Dame, I absolutely trade Hart and 7 for OG. I like Josh Hart as a player, but he just doesn't have the size/strength to help POR match up against the big wings in the West. OG is 2.5" taller, weighs 25 lb. more and has a 6" greater standing reach. He has the size and defensive chops to guard the LeBrons, Kawhis, PG13s and Lukas in the West. Josh Hart does not. OG also has the ability to guard both bigger and smaller players.

The forward spots have been POR's Achille's heel ever since Aldridge left and Batum was traded. POR needs above average 3 and D players at both forward spots to make up for the poor defense at the guard spots. OG gives them that.

If the goal is to focus on the long term future, just keep the pick draft BPA at 7 (likely Sharpe) and hope he develops into something special. Josh Hart is a nice player, but I do not consider him valuable enough, short term, or long term, to pass on getting OG Anunoby. OG is also 2.5 years younger than Josh. He's a better fit now, but also young enough to be a piece POR builds around post Dame.


One must understand Portland is in a western conference with the NBA Champs, Memphis, Dallas and likely a healthy LAC
team. Any perceived deep run involves beating those teams on their home court in a 7 game series and I frankly feel
even with OG/Grant that is a difficult task. It's not like either OG or Grant is an elite player on the Paul George level.
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Re: OG Anunoby Poll 

Post#22 » by Godaddycurse » Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:52 pm

Norm2953 wrote:
One must understand Portland is in a western conference with the NBA Champs, Memphis, Dallas and likely a healthy LAC
team. Any perceived deep run involves beating those teams on their home court in a 7 game series and I frankly feel
even with OG/Grant that is a difficult task. It's not like either OG or Grant is an elite player on the Paul George level.


If you think dame can play near Curry's level then i think this team compares well to the warriors if healthy

Dame = Curry
Simons = Poole
OG = draymond (defensively, OG is better shooter/draymond better passer)
Grant = Wiggins
Nurkic > Looney

If they keep Hart (whom i think is similar impact as Klay) then it would be a pretty good comp overall.
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Re: OG Anunoby Poll 

Post#23 » by BNM » Thu Jun 23, 2022 7:08 pm

Norm2953 wrote:
BNM wrote:
Norm2953 wrote:I think in the end, Portland simply uses the pick themselves for Toronto doesn't have to trade
him and the player Toronto might pick if they did an OG trade, is there for Portland.

In the end, Hart + 7 is more valuable than OG if that's what Portland is offering.


It depends on the goal and who is available at 7.

If the goal is one more deep playoff run for Dame, I absolutely trade Hart and 7 for OG. I like Josh Hart as a player, but he just doesn't have the size/strength to help POR match up against the big wings in the West. OG is 2.5" taller, weighs 25 lb. more and has a 6" greater standing reach. He has the size and defensive chops to guard the LeBrons, Kawhis, PG13s and Lukas in the West. Josh Hart does not. OG also has the ability to guard both bigger and smaller players.

The forward spots have been POR's Achille's heel ever since Aldridge left and Batum was traded. POR needs above average 3 and D players at both forward spots to make up for the poor defense at the guard spots. OG gives them that.

If the goal is to focus on the long term future, just keep the pick draft BPA at 7 (likely Sharpe) and hope he develops into something special. Josh Hart is a nice player, but I do not consider him valuable enough, short term, or long term, to pass on getting OG Anunoby. OG is also 2.5 years younger than Josh. He's a better fit now, but also young enough to be a piece POR builds around post Dame.


One must understand Portland is in a western conference with the NBA Champs, Memphis, Dallas and likely a healthy LAC
team. Any perceived deep run involves beating those teams on their home court in a 7 game series and I frankly feel
even with OG/Grant that is a difficult task. It's not like either OG or Grant is an elite player on the Paul George level.


POR doesn't need elite level forwards - just someone who can adequately defend elite level wings.

POR has made it past the 1st round three times in Damian Lillard's career - all three times, they were underdogs lacking HCA (defeating HOU and LAC in the 1st round and DEN in the 2nd round). The first time, they had Aldridge and Batum at forward and the other two times, it was Aminu and Harkless. Adding two above average 3 and D forwards with good size gives them a puncher's chance.

In an ideal world, I'd love to see them get OG while keeping both Hart and Ant. That would give them a top 6 of Dame, Ant, Hart, OG, Grant and Nurk. With Grant, OG and Hart all being above average 3 and D role players capable of guarding multiple positions (and all capable of efficient scoring in the TS% = .600 range), that gives them a lot of versatility and you still have two elite level scorers in Dame and Ant.

While neither Grant nor OG are elite 2-way players, they are both way above average role players and I think that would be the best top 6 POR has had since 2000. Perhaps not a favorite to go deep in the playoffs, but at least a reasonable chance of making the second round and a puncher's chance of making the WCF. If you make it that far, it often comes down to luck and opponents' injuries.

In the long run, they may be better off just keeping the 7th pick and hoping to hit another homerun, like they did with Dame at 6, but that's also a crap shoot. Personally, I'd like to see them surround Dame with the best supporting cast he's had and see how far they can go.
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Re: OG Anunoby Poll 

Post#24 » by BNM » Thu Jun 23, 2022 7:12 pm

Godaddycurse wrote:
Norm2953 wrote:
One must understand Portland is in a western conference with the NBA Champs, Memphis, Dallas and likely a healthy LAC
team. Any perceived deep run involves beating those teams on their home court in a 7 game series and I frankly feel
even with OG/Grant that is a difficult task. It's not like either OG or Grant is an elite player on the Paul George level.


If you think dame can play near Curry's level then i think this team compares well to the warriors if healthy

Dame = Curry
Simons = Poole
OG = draymond (defensively, OG is better shooter/draymond better passer)
Grant = Wiggins
Nurkic > Looney

If they keep Hart (whom i think is similar impact as Klay) then it would be a pretty good comp overall.


I really like the idea of a top 6 of Dame, Ant, Hart, OG, Grant and Nurk. A line up of Dame, Hart, OG, Grant and Nurk gives POR 4 above average defenders on the floor with Dame, as well as 4 guys capable of knocking down 3-pointers at an above average percentage- and it gives them a Poole-like sniper off the bench in Simons.

That's a very versatile top 6 with great defense and plenty of efficient scoring.
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Re: OG Anunoby Poll 

Post#25 » by Norm2953 » Thu Jun 23, 2022 7:14 pm

Nobody knows how well Dame will play in 2022 but that GSW team has a lot of championship
experience and their core group has good young players in Kuminga, Moody and possibly
Wiseman behind them. They also have a coach who has won championships both as player
and coach.

Portland has guys like Nurk who always seems to miss 20-25 games a season and simply cannot
win with Nurk and a vet min guy at center. All those teams I mentioned are really deep and
if Portland trades away Little, Hart and 7, they have to rely on the Trendon Watford's of the
world playing big minutes at both PF/C
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Re: OG Anunoby Poll 

Post#26 » by BNM » Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:37 pm

Norm2953 wrote:Nobody knows how well Dame will play in 2022 but that GSW team has a lot of championship
experience and their core group has good young players in Kuminga, Moody and possibly
Wiseman behind them. They also have a coach who has won championships both as player
and coach.

Portland has guys like Nurk who always seems to miss 20-25 games a season and simply cannot
win with Nurk and a vet min guy at center. All those teams I mentioned are really deep and
if Portland trades away Little, Hart and 7, they have to rely on the Trendon Watford's of the
world playing big minutes at both PF/C


Moody (11 minutes), Kuminga (8 minutes) and Wiseman (0 minutes) barely played in the finals. Those guys may, or may not, become special in the future, but they were irrelevant to this championship. It was all about the vets and the coaching (advantage GSW, for sure).

As far as a back up for Nurk, center is the least valued position in the current NBA. POR won't be THE destination for vet min ring chasers, but if POR looks like a playoff team with a healthy Dame, adding Grant and OG, they will be able to get a solid back up center for their MLE, Bi-Annual Exception or maybe one of their two remaining TPEs. Those spots all pay considerably more than a vet min deal. That gives POR an advantage in the market for a proven back up center.

If they can land OG without giving up Hart or Simons, I really like their top 6. Filling out spots 7 - 9 will be much easier if that 1 - 6 comes to fruition.
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Re: OG Anunoby Poll 

Post#27 » by DusterBuster » Thu Jun 23, 2022 10:54 pm

Rumors in Portland media is that the Raptors are waiting for the draft to see who's available at 7. If the guy they're targeting is available at then, they will make the OG trade. So probably won't know if a deal will be made until after the draft starts.
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Re: OG Anunoby Poll 

Post#28 » by Norm2953 » Thu Jun 23, 2022 11:12 pm

I'm season ticket holder and you havent seen Portland's defense with Dame/CJ and now Ant.

Center is a least appreciated position but they entered last season with Nurk and Cody Zeller and finished with Drew Eubanks and Trendan Watford who started the season as a 2 way player.

Teams like the GSW have a solid brace of guys to cover for Steph but Portland seemingly led the league with 6-3 guys which is why they need some size/length

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