2022 Summer league

Norm2953 · Post #21 » by **Norm2953** » Fri Jul 8, 2022 11:20 pm

Dame Lizard wrote:
Norm2953 wrote:I've thought from the beginning, Sharpe would essentially be red-shirted in his rookie
season. He will be a player in time but that will be in 2024-25 for they don't need him
to play this season.
He needs reps. Red shirting a guy who just red shirted college is exactly what we shouldn't be doing. He's clearly a good player in an empty gym, but desperately needs reps playing 5v5.

Simons played in 20 games in his rookie season, only really playing in the last game of the season.

Most of his reps will come in practice if the team wants to compete

elias808 · Post #22 » by **elias808** » Sat Jul 9, 2022 12:07 am

Norm2953 wrote:
Dame Lizard wrote:
Norm2953 wrote:I've thought from the beginning, Sharpe would essentially be red-shirted in his rookie
season. He will be a player in time but that will be in 2024-25 for they don't need him
to play this season.
He needs reps. Red shirting a guy who just red shirted college is exactly what we shouldn't be doing. He's clearly a good player in an empty gym, but desperately needs reps playing 5v5.

Simons played in 20 games in his rookie season, only really playing in the last game of the season.

Most of his reps will come in practice if the team wants to compete

Exactly this. While live action NBA reps would be nice it’s not like he’s sitting around do nothing. He’s going against the 1s in practice everyday.

Brandon-Clyde · Post #23 » by **Brandon-Clyde** » Sat Jul 9, 2022 12:56 am

If the Blazers had a G league team he could start the season there.

Post #24 » by **DaVoiceMaster** » Sat Jul 9, 2022 3:09 am

Pretty disappointed watching the game last night, specifically to see Sharpe play. His first two shots (3-pointers) did not look good. His third shot along the baseline looked real good. The 3-on-1 fastbreak where he threw the ball out of bounds sucked. Overall, it was a pretty "meh" performance. I wouldn't be surprised if he missed the rest of SL. Overall, not impressed with the squad that has 6 or 7 Blazers players on the roster. I did like Keon, except for the turnover late in the game.

m0ng0 · Post #25 » by **m0ng0** » Sat Jul 9, 2022 12:40 pm

Sharpe needs every game rep he can possibly play, his body is not in game shape. He should be playing every garbage time minute we can find, and sadly I expect there to be A LOT of those!! Keon and Walker both look great so far!

Goldbum · Post #26 » by **Goldbum** » Sat Jul 9, 2022 8:51 pm

Walker is a stud. I called my shot earlier when I said he will start 8+ games for is this year. He makes perfect sense alongside Grant. Size, athletic tools, length, rebounding, spacing and switchable on defense. I think he's going to be better than Watford (who I love). Keon is so underrated. His speed, improved skill set and intangibles hard to find.

Norm2953 · Post #27 » by **Norm2953** » Sat Jul 9, 2022 9:27 pm

it'll be interesting to see how things go if Sharpe's injury ends up with him missing significant time
in his rookie season. I didn't think he'd play much in his rookie season but he badly needed practice
time in this summer and in fall camp. He'd be further behind Ant was in 2018 for there is no place
for him to play if Keon Johnson for example earns some PT

BlazersBroncos · Post #28 » by **BlazersBroncos** » Sat Jul 9, 2022 9:34 pm

Keon should play over Sharpe, at least if we’re talking guard minutes. He is really underrated here and is seen as an afterthought far too often.

That LAC deal was 100% aimed to get Keon. I think the Blazers likely had him ranked highly in the 2021 draft, where he was a consensus Top-10 talent until his fall on draft night.

Kid wants it, he plays so hard, elite athlete, understands defense and the progress his shot has made bodes so well for his work ethic. I would be floored if he isn’t a 10 year NBA player and 7-8th man at minimum - think he outperforms that minimum pretty easily too.

Dame Lizard · Post #29 » by **Dame Lizard** » Sat Jul 9, 2022 11:26 pm

Shaedon out with a shoulder injury. Disappointing that he won't get a summer league run around.

At first I was hoping it'd be a 2 week injury, but the update says he'll be re-evaluated in 2 weeks. I hope it's small enough to heal naturally and not require surgery.

Being a Trailblazer fan isn't an easy road.....

Norm2953 · Post #30 » by **Norm2953** » Sun Jul 10, 2022 4:01 am

It’s does look like Portland has a steal in Walker who has a chance to get some minutes for
Portland is devoid of much quality depth in their front court.

Goldbum · Post #31 » by **Goldbum** » Sun Jul 10, 2022 4:58 pm

+1 BlazerBroncos Keon is a keeper. The bizarre thing is we signed GP2 instead of letting Keon develop in those minutes and grabbing a center.
Is Harry Giles still available? I would give him Bledsoe's roster spot... or maybe Thon Maker...or ect ect

BlazersBroncos · Post #32 » by **BlazersBroncos** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:25 am

Goldbum wrote:+1 BlazerBroncos Keon is a keeper. The bizarre thing is we signed GP2 instead of letting Keon develop in those minutes and grabbing a center.
Is Harry Giles still available? I would give him Bledsoe's roster spot... or maybe Thon Maker...or ect ect

I think there is a confidence and tone that GP2 brings, and IMO Billups wants to bring guys like that in to change the culture. I get the signing, a 20mpg player in the Finals that was the best defender in the whole series. Keon just isn’t there in terms of the, I guess, vibe that Gary brings. His effort is contagious.

Also, man are we writing off Eubanks. Giles and Maker have never had a stretch as good as Drew did with us last season. Not even close, hell not if you combine both players best games through their careers.

If we need C help due to injury we can find a 10 day guy to fill in, Giles and Maker fall in that bucket.

Dame Lizard · Post #33 » by **Dame Lizard** » Tue Jul 12, 2022 2:21 am

Tari Eason looking good, which hurts to see.

Given free agency has been a flop, getting Duren or Eason from the Charlotte deal they made with New York, would have been terrific.

elias808 · Post #34 » by **elias808** » Tue Jul 12, 2022 2:31 am

Dame Lizard wrote:Tari Eason looking good, which hurts to see.

Given free agency has been a flop, getting Duren or Eason from the Charlotte deal they made with New York, would have been terrific.

It amazes me year after year how bad GMs/upper lvl scouts are at their jobs.

Norm2953 · Post #35 » by **Norm2953** » Tue Jul 12, 2022 2:39 am

It's far too early to write off Sharpe but it would have been sweet to have traded down with
Charlotte and have drafted Duren and Eason. Hopefully getting Walker in the late second
round will make up for not drafting Eason.

Dame Lizard · Post #36 » by **Dame Lizard** » Tue Jul 12, 2022 2:49 am

elias808 wrote:
Dame Lizard wrote:Tari Eason looking good, which hurts to see.

Given free agency has been a flop, getting Duren or Eason from the Charlotte deal they made with New York, would have been terrific.

It amazes me year after year how bad GMs/upper lvl scouts are at their jobs.

Agreed. I'm a casual NBA fan, but I can confidently say I'd do a better job than some of them (e.g. Billy King).

Dame Lizard · Post #37 » by **Dame Lizard** » Tue Jul 12, 2022 3:02 am

Norm2953 wrote:It's far too early to write off Sharpe but it would have been sweet to have traded down with
Charlotte and have drafted Duren and Eason. Hopefully getting Walker in the late second
round will make up for not drafting Eason.

The shoulder injury is certainly a blow, even if he wasn't going to be significantly contributing in his rookie year.

I'll always still feel that, without the power of hindsight, Sharpe was the correct pick from a pure talent/upside perspective, given the wholesale talent upgrade we'd need to compete.

But from a current roster composition perspective, having a SF/PF who could switch defensively with Grant (i.e. Eason), and an athletic big with strong defensive upside (i.e. Duren or Mark Williams) sounds very attractive.

BlazersBroncos · Post #38 » by **BlazersBroncos** » Tue Jul 12, 2022 3:12 am

How would we have made a trade with CHA? They didnt consolidate, they punted on one of the picks for a future FRP and 4 SRP.

We are hamstrung by that CHI pick so our draft capital is inherently worth less than the future FRP CHA obtained as the team getting said pick is at best picking 2025, potentially later if we land lotto again.

elias808 · Post #39 » by **elias808** » Tue Jul 12, 2022 3:25 am

BlazersBroncos wrote:How would we have made a trade with CHA? They didnt consolidate, they punted on one of the picks for a future FRP and 4 SRP.

We are hamstrung by that CHI pick so our draft capital is inherently worth less than the future FRP CHA obtained as the team getting said pick is at best picking 2025, potentially later if we land lotto again.

Well we could have traded 7 for 13 and 15.

BlazersBroncos · Post #40 » by **BlazersBroncos** » Tue Jul 12, 2022 4:52 am

elias808 wrote:
BlazersBroncos wrote:How would we have made a trade with CHA? They didnt consolidate, they punted on one of the picks for a future FRP and 4 SRP.

We are hamstrung by that CHI pick so our draft capital is inherently worth less than the future FRP CHA obtained as the team getting said pick is at best picking 2025, potentially later if we land lotto again.

Well we could have traded 7 for 13 and 15.

What was the indication that CHA wanted to move up rather than simply sit back for Mark and turn their other pick into future assets?

There isn’t anything to indicate CHA wanted to trade up in any way. If they moved 15 and 13 for 8, ya let’s have this conversation. But the direction they took was wholly different.