Shaedon Sharpe

[GEE]

Shae was such a gamble on draft day, and he's turning out to be the Home-Run that Cronin was swinging for. If he's not our starting SG next season I'll be shocked. As for Dame, I think we are built now to move forward with or without him. Simons is the PGOTF, but next season I strongly beleive with the wing depth we now have, Simons should not start.

The Dame / Simmons pairing remains the biggest hurdle going forward but if Chauncey can figure out how to create a rotation for the two to both maximize their minutes, that is when we will start to crush other teams. Simons should not start. Instead come off the bench about 7 minutes into the game. Two years from now we should see Simons take Dame's place as the starting PG, and be that for another 10 years, while Dame can be our 6th-man 'til he turns 40.

[The Sebastian Express]

How can you be a point guard of the future when you can't consistently run the offense well?

[BNM]

if Chauncey can figure out...

Chauncey can't figure out ****. If he could, we would have started the season with Hart starting at SG and Simons coming off the bench.

Any plan that depends on Chauncey figuring something out is bound to end in failure.

[Case2012]

Simons is not a PG. He regularly has 2 assist games. He’s a microwave chucker who should come off the bench, at least in Portland. It would be better to try and move him with several picks for someone like Bridges. Dame, Sharpe, Bridges, Grant, Wemby… in my dreams at least.

[JRoy]

Simons is not a PG. He regularly has 2 assist games. He’s a microwave chucker who should come off the bench, at least in Portland. It would be better to try and move him with several picks for someone like Bridges. Dame, Sharpe, Bridges, Grant, Wemby… in my dreams at least.

Bingo.

Send him to ORL.

[JasonStern]

How can you be a point guard of the future when you can't consistently run the offense well?

Any Simons/Sharpe starting lineup implies a tank/rebuild. If he develops, great. If he becomes a third guard, great. If not, at least he got some run and time to develop. I don't think that anyone is expecting Terry Porter/Rod Strickland from Simons. Might be wrong based on the amount of hate he gets.

[The Sebastian Express]

How can you be a point guard of the future when you can't consistently run the offense well?

Any Simons/Sharpe starting lineup implies a tank/rebuild. If he develops, great. If he becomes a third guard, great. If not, at least he got some run and time to develop. I don't think that anyone is expecting Terry Porter/Rod Strickland from Simons. Might be wrong based on the amount of hate he gets.

Simons doesn't get any great deal of hate. Saying he can't consistently run the offense, which he cannot, isn't hate. It's criticism. Constructive criticism at that.

Here's what hate would be: "Simons is a terrible three point shooter" which is just factually inaccurate.

I just don't see the purpose of trading the franchise's greatest player and one of the best leaders in sports to see if Simons can be a point guard. Dame still has many years left. It's just not a great proposal.

[JasonStern]

Simons doesn't get any great deal of hate. Saying he can't consistently run the offense, which he cannot, isn't hate. It's criticism. Constructive criticism at that.

He absolutely does. Guy is probably a modern day Jamal Crossover, yet gets hate for not being an all-star or perfectly rounded player at 23. Then posters constantly throw him into trades expecting an all-star return. Either he sucks, he's great, or most likely - he is what he is.

[The Sebastian Express]

Simons doesn't get any great deal of hate. Saying he can't consistently run the offense, which he cannot, isn't hate. It's criticism. Constructive criticism at that.

He absolutely does. Guy is probably a modern day Jamal Crossover, yet gets hate for not being an all-star or perfectly rounded player at 23. Then posters constantly throw him into trades expecting an all-star return. Either he sucks, he's great, or most likely - he is what he is.

Do you think the alleged hate he gets is more or less outlandish than calling him the point guard of the future and proposing we trade a Hall of Famer to clear out room for him to see if he can develop into a point guard or a third guard, Jason?

[BNM]

Q: Who is the only person capable of holding Shaedon Sharpe to less than 10 ppg?

A: Chauncey Billups.

By pulling Sharpe with 9:36 left in the 4th, while down by 49 points, Chauncey guaranteed Sharpe would not average 10.0 ppg during his rookie season. In fact, Chauncey played Sharpe less than 10 minutes in the second half in that ridiculous blowout. Why not let your prized 19-year old rookie finish the game and get the 7 additional points he needed to average 10.0 ppg? It's not like Sharpe was going to lead POR to a 49-point comeback and spoil Chauncey's masterful tank job. Evidently, Chauncey thought it was more important to play the guys on 10-day contracts than to allow Sharpe to be the first POR rookie to average double digit scoring since Damian Lillard (and only the second since Brandon Roy).

For the season, Sharpe officially averaged 9.9 ppg and fell 7 points short of averaging 10.0 ppg.

More important than the minor scoring milestone, Sharpe got to see what good coaching and a good system looks like. He saw a free flowing system, with ample ball and player movement. The result, GSW had 47 assists to POR's 25. GSW's system generates plenty o easy scoring opportunities for everyone. POR plays a crappy, stagnant, iso heavy system system that leads to comparatively few assists and few easy open looks.

If I was Shaedon Sharpe's agent, I would be pushing hard for a trade unless/until Chauncey is fired. As long as Chauncey is coach, neither the team, nor Shaedon Sharpe will reach their full potential.

[BlazersBroncos]

I mean Billups sucks but playing the youngster that is likely the future face of the team in the 2nd half of a 50 point loss during a meaningless game that is the last of the season isnt crazy. He got ample shots during the tank weeks, might as well be safe and not risk injury.

I wouldnt be surprised if the FO told him to play SS sparingly - just not worth the risk.

[Soulyss]

I see Sharpe as a Vince Carter type... he's never going to be a good enough defender to be a true "2-way" player but will be a all-star many times and a fringe all-nba player a couple of times.

[Napoleon7]

Q: Who is the only person capable of holding Shaedon Sharpe to less than 10 ppg?

A: Chauncey Billups.

By pulling Sharpe with 9:36 left in the 4th, while down by 49 points, Chauncey guaranteed Sharpe would not average 10.0 ppg during his rookie season. In fact, Chauncey played Sharpe less than 10 minutes in the second half in that ridiculous blowout. Why not let your prized 19-year old rookie finish the game and get the 7 additional points he needed to average 10.0 ppg? It's not like Sharpe was going to lead POR to a 49-point comeback and spoil Chauncey's masterful tank job. Evidently, Chauncey thought it was more important to play the guys on 10-day contracts than to allow Sharpe to be the first POR rookie to average double digit scoring since Damian Lillard (and only the second since Brandon Roy).

For the season, Sharpe officially averaged 9.9 ppg and fell 7 points short of averaging 10.0 ppg.

More important than the minor scoring milestone, Sharpe got to see what good coaching and a good system looks like. He saw a free flowing system, with ample ball and player movement. The result, GSW had 47 assists to POR's 25. GSW's system generates plenty o easy scoring opportunities for everyone. POR plays a crappy, stagnant, iso heavy system system that leads to comparatively few assists and few easy open looks.

If I was Shaedon Sharpe's agent, I would be pushing hard for a trade unless/until Chauncey is fired. As long as Chauncey is coach, neither the team, nor Shaedon Sharpe will reach their full potential.

100% agree

It’s totally 100% unforgivable for Chauncey to not allow Sharpe to go into the record books with a permanent double digit scoring rookie season.

Instead it will forever be recorded as 9.9. If I’m Sharpe I would be absolutely furious.

As a season ticket holder I am firmly in the camp of removing Chauncey. Let him go coach Detroit. I’m done with him.


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[PDXKnight]

Q: Who is the only person capable of holding Shaedon Sharpe to less than 10 ppg?

A: Chauncey Billups.

By pulling Sharpe with 9:36 left in the 4th, while down by 49 points, Chauncey guaranteed Sharpe would not average 10.0 ppg during his rookie season. In fact, Chauncey played Sharpe less than 10 minutes in the second half in that ridiculous blowout. Why not let your prized 19-year old rookie finish the game and get the 7 additional points he needed to average 10.0 ppg? It's not like Sharpe was going to lead POR to a 49-point comeback and spoil Chauncey's masterful tank job. Evidently, Chauncey thought it was more important to play the guys on 10-day contracts than to allow Sharpe to be the first POR rookie to average double digit scoring since Damian Lillard (and only the second since Brandon Roy).

For the season, Sharpe officially averaged 9.9 ppg and fell 7 points short of averaging 10.0 ppg.

More important than the minor scoring milestone, Sharpe got to see what good coaching and a good system looks like. He saw a free flowing system, with ample ball and player movement. The result, GSW had 47 assists to POR's 25. GSW's system generates plenty o easy scoring opportunities for everyone. POR plays a crappy, stagnant, iso heavy system system that leads to comparatively few assists and few easy open looks.

If I was Shaedon Sharpe's agent, I would be pushing hard for a trade unless/until Chauncey is fired. As long as Chauncey is coach, neither the team, nor Shaedon Sharpe will reach their full potential.

100% agree

It’s totally 100% unforgivable for Chauncey to not allow Sharpe to go into the record books with a permanent double digit scoring rookie season.

Instead it will forever be recorded as 9.9. If I’m Sharpe I would be absolutely furious.

As a season ticket holder I am firmly in the camp of removing Chauncey. Let him go coach Detroit. I’m done with him.


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I don't care about his averages all that much, what does irritate me is the bigger picture issue of playing cam over sharpe for a good chunk of time when shaedon could've been gelling with Dame when simons was out

[Village Idiot]

I see Sharpe as a Vince Carter type... he's never going to be a good enough defender to be a true "2-way" player but will be a all-star many times and a fringe all-nba player a couple of times.

I think Sharpe has the makings of solid defensive player. He seems really eager at that end and his shot-blocking is top notch for a guard. At this stage I'm not going to put a ceiling, or a floor, on Sharpe. He has the physical tools without a doubt. He is a lot more developed mentally than I was expecing and his skill-set seems to be pretty strong. If he can improve his ball-handling he can become one of the best SGs ever. Then again, he might be a Gerald Green type and squander his physical gifts.

[Soulyss]

I see Sharpe as a Vince Carter type... he's never going to be a good enough defender to be a true "2-way" player but will be a all-star many times and a fringe all-nba player a couple of times.

I think Sharpe has the makings of solid defensive player. He seems really eager at that end and his shot-blocking is top notch for a guard. At this stage I'm not going to put a ceiling, or a floor, on Sharpe. He has the physical tools without a doubt. He is a lot more developed mentally than I was expecing and his skill-set seems to be pretty strong. If he can improve his ball-handling he can become one of the best SGs ever. Then again, he might be a Gerald Green type and squander his physical gifts.

I mean, yeah... it's certainly possible he develops into an elite 2-way player. I would say generally most elite two-way players start as defensively elite, and add to their offensive game. I think there are far few instances where elite offensive talent turns into an elite defender.

I mean, it's not exactly an insult to align Sharpe with the career path of Vinsanity.

[BlazersBroncos]

The stretch of games Sharpe put together to end the year is better than anything Green ever did. I think were out of the woods on that low of a comparison, but who knows.

He certainly has VC athleticism. I hope he doesnt coast as much as Carter did at times (Albeit older Vince was a tremendous guy to have around, middle career Carter could really disappear at times though).

[Wizenheimer]

Simons doesn't get any great deal of hate. Saying he can't consistently run the offense, which he cannot, isn't hate. It's criticism. Constructive criticism at that.

He absolutely does. Guy is probably a modern day Jamal Crossover, yet gets hate for not being an all-star or perfectly rounded player at 23. Then posters constantly throw him into trades expecting an all-star return. Either he sucks, he's great, or most likely - he is what he is.

I don't read this forum every single day so I can't speak to hate or an exaggeration of hate.

Simons a PG? No, he's not. Can he develop into one? Maybe but the odds aren't in his favor. Justice Winslow had more assists/100-possessions and Hart had the same number. Neither of them are PG's...but of course both of them could play defense while Simons is the biggest defensive sieve on the team. Simons was slightly under 2.0 in assist/turnover ratio. That at least could be a little encouraging. What I saw was that Simons was ok facilitating offense for players out on the perimeter with much safer passing lanes. He tended to be a turnover waiting to happen when he passed while in traffic

as many have said, repeatedly, Simons is best suited as a 6th man. A scorig threat off the bench where defense wasn't as important. Unfortunately Cronin overpaid last summer's market and Simons has a too awkward salary to be a 6th man

if Dame is traded? Blazers should immediately look to trade Simons, Nurkic, and S&T Grant. The best outcome from a Dame trade would be Portland getting bad immediately and landing more high lottery picks. The will need elite players. At least two top-15 players and the only avenue they'd have would be the lottery

and pivoting back to on-topic, that's how Portland got Sharpe, and his upside is obvious

[BlazersBroncos]

The continual idea that Simons is a PG reminds me of when we all were hoodwinked into thinking Qyntel Woods was a point-forward for like a week.

Its just not happening.

[Norm2953]

Simons is a Monta Ellis type, who away from Portland, will do fine. If Portland had a SF like Batum or Winslow (when healthy) to help initiate offense, he'd be able to concentrate on scoring, for he's able to score 20+ points in a quarter on a regular basis. Funny thing is Portland had last spring, Hart and Winslow to do this and its no mistake, Portland began to struggle when Winslow went down for the season in late December.

At his age, most teams would be so eager to trade him but its not his fault he's not a fit with Dame, who needs his version of Klay Thompson.