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Post#21 » by DusterBuster » Fri May 19, 2023 4:01 pm

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Post#22 » by Pattycakes » Fri May 19, 2023 4:03 pm

JKiddy wrote:It seems like Charlotte might take Scoot now. Is the drop off from 2 to 3 as steep as others are saying or is that just BS to hide intentions for the draft?


I’ve read Brandon miller has both been the best interviewer/iq/physical specimen and heavily disappointing in those areas the last two days, so I’ll personally be holding my breath for some more info and evidence before even speculating on who charlotte would value here.
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Post#23 » by Village Idiot » Fri May 19, 2023 4:17 pm

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Goldbum wrote:
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I was told that teams believe Dame is gettable. The leader in the club house would be Miami
Herro would go to ORL
#6 and Isaac+?+?+? to Portland
I was also told not to rule at a Grant S&T
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Ayton
They really are looking for a big move to make a run but he thinks they probably won't find it and will pivot

Apparently Ayton and Isaac's contracts don't scare Portland if they rebuild.
Miami would have to give up Bam to make me even consider a deal with them. Like us, the Heat's pick situation is muddied by owing a lottery protected pick in 24 or 25 to the Thunder.

Dame for Bam, Issac and #6 would be cool though. Sign me up. Draft Scoot at 3 and Walker at 6. Bam is still young and only entering his prime.


Miami wouldn’t give up Bam in a Dame deal unfortunately. Had they flamed out in the playin, maybe they would have moved Bam to rebuild, but not now. Miami would want a big 3 of Dame, Jimmy and Bam.

I have to say tho, I absolutely Hhhhhaaaatttteee the idea of taking on Issac. That would be colossally stupid.
Then I wouldn't trade Dame to them. He's under contract for another few years.
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Post#24 » by jebdrbhjb » Fri May 19, 2023 4:34 pm

Sinobas wrote:I'm firmly in camp rebuild. There's no way we're getting a player for the #3 that makes us a serious contender.


I completely agree. Pick the best realistic player we could get for #3 and Simons and tell me how we're then ANY better next season than the Dame, CJ, Nukic lineup of a few years ago. We simply wouldn't be considerably better meaning we're fighting for a #3-#5 seed. Portland is not a FA destination so we have to do it through the draft.

Ask Dame his top 5 teams and quietly go to work getting him where he wants to go while getting us a respectable return. Remember, whichever team trading for the star wins the trade so don't get caught up in that idea.
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Post#26 » by DusterBuster » Fri May 19, 2023 8:29 pm

Goldbum wrote:My source doesn't work for either team but said he hadn't heard about 3 going to Pheonix. He heard an Ant + Nurkic package and actually thinks that's an overpay. According to him 3rd has been discussed for Bridges though. Brooklyn is VERY interested in Scoot. Not so much Miller


This would seem to line up with that Goldbum mentioned... seems likely both Nets and Blazers have discussed Bridges for Ant and #3 already. I would imagine this is the first call Dame wanted made.

If it's a go on Brooklyn's side, than I'm guessing the only thing waiting on now is Brooklyn making sure Scoot is still available at 2.
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Post#28 » by Norm2953 » Fri May 19, 2023 9:02 pm

Elite SF next to Grant means poor Nurkic would have to do all the rebounding and be the fifth option
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Post#29 » by DusterBuster » Fri May 19, 2023 9:39 pm

Norm2953 wrote:Elite SF next to Grant means poor Nurkic would have to do all the rebounding and be the fifth option
on offense


I have to imagine there is a Nurkic plan somewhere too.

I also wonder if there isnt any consideration for other SF's like George or Kawhi? Not sure I would move the 3 for Kawhi because of his endless injuries, but for George... maybe? That experiment has not been great for the Clippers, so maybe Balmer would think about a retool of stuff because those two as a franchise core just don't work.
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Post#30 » by The Sebastian Express » Fri May 19, 2023 9:42 pm

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Norm2953 wrote:Elite SF next to Grant means poor Nurkic would have to do all the rebounding and be the fifth option
on offense


I have to imagine there is a Nurkic plan somewhere too.

I also wonder if there isnt any consideration for other SF's like George or Kawhi? Not sure I would move the 3 for Kawhi because of his endless injuries, but for George... maybe? That experiment has not been great for the Clippers, so maybe Balmer would think about a retool of stuff because those two as a franchise core just don't work.


I don't know if George is worth the three anymore. He also has injury concerns. He's also up there in age. Mikal is younger, though not as great a passer or playmaker by any means. But younger and more durable.

Clippers are in such a weird situation. Especially, imo, if Lue leaves.
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Post#31 » by DusterBuster » Fri May 19, 2023 10:01 pm

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Norm2953 wrote:Elite SF next to Grant means poor Nurkic would have to do all the rebounding and be the fifth option
on offense


I have to imagine there is a Nurkic plan somewhere too.

I also wonder if there isnt any consideration for other SF's like George or Kawhi? Not sure I would move the 3 for Kawhi because of his endless injuries, but for George... maybe? That experiment has not been great for the Clippers, so maybe Balmer would think about a retool of stuff because those two as a franchise core just don't work.


I don't know if George is worth the three anymore. He also has injury concerns. He's also up there in age. Mikal is younger, though not as great a passer or playmaker by any means. But younger and more durable.

Clippers are in such a weird situation. Especially, imo, if Lue leaves.


Oh yeah, totally. Mikal over George any day and all day, but not totally sure how realistic that is right now. Assuming it is a no-go and Bridges' isn't available, as a plan B, would George make sense. Agreed worried about injury history there too tho, so not a great plan B lol.
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Post#32 » by Norm2953 » Fri May 19, 2023 10:09 pm

Clippers like the GSW have to think about the second tax apron which is why all these win now schemes for Portland seem absurd to me. Adding anyone if Portland pays Grant, puts Portland over $100 million for 3 players. Right now, Portland without Grant is at $90 million for Dame, Nurk and Ant.
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Post#33 » by zzaj » Fri May 19, 2023 10:11 pm

It's a shame that Olshey pissed away Lillard's prime years enough that Portland is forced into this awkward situation.

Mikal is a good player, who I was very high on around draft time, and he's apparently besties with Lillard...but I fully expect there are players in this year's Top 10 that can step right in and produce more or less at Mikal's mean. Let's not forget he had a bit of a breakout scoring year at 26.
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Post#34 » by DusterBuster » Fri May 19, 2023 10:19 pm

zzaj wrote:It's a shame that Olshey pissed away Lillard's prime years enough that Portland is forced into this awkward situation.


For any disagreements anyone on this website have about the Blazers direction moving forward, I think we can all be in agreement with a big loud "**** You Olshey". I gave that guy the benefit of the doubt, and he knew how to get role players the no other, but my god did his obsession with CJ just destroy Lillard's prime.

To your point though, I believe Bridges will be a PG-level career from here on out. I think he's about what you'd hope the pick turns into, and at his age, ill take the for sure thing vs potential of a pick.
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Post#35 » by The Sebastian Express » Fri May 19, 2023 10:26 pm

I also don't think it's fair in the sense to think of Mikal's means as his potential. This is a guy who was third option for most of his first few years behind Booker and to an extent CP3, I think. Sort of in a crunch with Ayton right there. Or maybe 2A/2B with Ayton and was asked to do a lot of the side work rather than scoring.

I think his time with Brooklyn and showing what he can do has opened up his confidence and his willingness to do more with the ball and at the cup.
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Post#36 » by tester551 » Fri May 19, 2023 10:29 pm

Norm2953 wrote:Elite SF next to Grant means poor Nurkic would have to do all the rebounding and be the fifth option
on offense

That is where he should be
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Post#37 » by 52-12-7 » Fri May 19, 2023 10:42 pm

I would totally be in favor of that rumored package if it's for Bridges. Even if Blazes don't become a contender, Bridge is young enough to fit in the timeline of Sharpe and eventual rebuild. I would be hesitant if it's George due to injury concerns. I would definitely be against the trade if it was for Siakam, he is just not the guy for this team talent or age wise. OG doesn't even belong in this discussion, only in Raptor fan's fantasies lol.
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Post#38 » by zzaj » Fri May 19, 2023 11:04 pm

The Sebastian Express wrote:I also don't think it's fair in the sense to think of Mikal's means as his potential. This is a guy who was third option for most of his first few years behind Booker and to an extent CP3, I think. Sort of in a crunch with Ayton right there. Or maybe 2A/2B with Ayton and was asked to do a lot of the side work rather than scoring.

I think his time with Brooklyn and showing what he can do has opened up his confidence and his willingness to do more with the ball and at the cup.


Well, fit is everything and Bridges found a good fit, that's for sure. At 26 he's entering his prime, and we can probably assume he's going to continue being roughly a 4.5 rebounds 3.5 assists guy given years past. His scoring will probably fluctuate a bit, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him float back down to 17 PPG depending on his fit...I personally don't see him scoring 26 ppg for the rest of his career, but I guess we'll see.

Again, I think a 17/5/3 guy with good defense is available in this draft--there may be 2 or 3, actually.
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Post#39 » by DusterBuster » Fri May 19, 2023 11:14 pm

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The Sebastian Express wrote:I also don't think it's fair in the sense to think of Mikal's means as his potential. This is a guy who was third option for most of his first few years behind Booker and to an extent CP3, I think. Sort of in a crunch with Ayton right there. Or maybe 2A/2B with Ayton and was asked to do a lot of the side work rather than scoring.

I think his time with Brooklyn and showing what he can do has opened up his confidence and his willingness to do more with the ball and at the cup.


Well, fit is everything and Bridges found a good fit, that's for sure. At 26 he's entering his prime, and we can probably assume he's going to continue being roughly a 4.5 rebounds 3.5 assists guy given years past. His scoring will probably fluctuate a bit, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him float back down to 17 PPG depending on his fit...I personally don't see him scoring 26 ppg for the rest of his career, but I guess we'll see.

Again, I think a 17/5/3 guy with good defense is available in this draft--there may be 2 or 3, actually.


I just think 17ppg is pretty low for what he's going to be in the future. I think his Nets numbers are far more indicative for the rest of his career if he's going to be a 1 or 2 option. His 17ppg was when he was a 3rd / 4th option. I just think you're massively underselling what Mikal brings. On top of that, he's one of the healthiest players in the league, he hasn't missed a game in a couple seasons now.
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Post#40 » by Norm2953 » Fri May 19, 2023 11:14 pm

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Norm2953 wrote:Elite SF next to Grant means poor Nurkic would have to do all the rebounding and be the fifth option
on offense

That is where he should be


That may be but this team needs him to rebound and protect the basket but he's a guy who also
fancies himself as a scorer.

If he's sulking from not getting touches, he's not going to rebound or protect the basket

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