Dame names potential trade destinations

[zzaj]

I’ll state again, even if the Blazers do nothing but keep the #3…I think they can be a PO team next year. The key will be (as it is EVERY year for every team—health). Both Miami and Denver are exactly 1 key injury away from not being where they are now.

Lillard
Sharpe
Simons
Thybulle
Grant
#3 (Miller probably)
Nurkic

Is a PO team if healthy, which is a big ask. And I think that’s all that Lillard needs to stay—to make the POs.

[DusterBuster]

Regardless of what you think of me , He's chirping again, which could potentailly affect his bosses ability to do HIS' job effectively. I know what happens if I were to act in a similar fashion at my place of employment. Dame may end up overplaying his hand at some point, because STFU is EXACTLY what I'd imagine Cronin is also thinking right now.

"God forbid he's human"..... GTFOH with that weak S##T.

Man you gotta settle down with the hate you have for a person you've never met. You've now in the last year alone alluded he's jealous of Anfernee and trying to push him out so he doesn't overshadow him, you've said Dame took credit for the accomplishments of his teammates, you said he doesn't even actually deserve credit and praise for his own big moments.

I don't know what it is with you. I don't know why you hate this guy so much. But you gotta get it under control and get right with yourself, my man.

yeah...whenever he sees an opportunity, in his mind, to trash Dame...he'll trash Dame. It's some kind of weird mix of obsession and hate

I’m glad I’m not the only one who’s noticed this.

[DusterBuster]

I’ll state again, even if the Blazers do nothing but keep the #3…I think they can be a PO team next year. The key will be (as it is EVERY year for every team—health). Both Miami and Denver are exactly 1 key injury away from not being where they are now.

Lillard
Sharpe
Simons
Thybulle
Grant
#3 (Miller probably)
Nurkic

Is a PO team if healthy, which is a big ask. And I think that’s all that Lillard needs to stay—to make the POs.

I just said the same thing and it’s why I don’t think the simple “well it’s that time, gotta trade your star” mindset has to be the only answer here. In the superteam era, I get it. But right now post LeBron / Warriors and pre any other dominate player/team, you can get far in the playoffs without needing an INSANE roster. As amazing as Jokic is, if Murray is injured or not fully 100%, you can get past Denver. If Tatum and Brown aren’t 100% healthy like it was this year, you can get past them. Same with Grizzlies, Suns, Sixers, etc.

Until (if) someone like Wemby starts dominating, there’s a window here where you can get to a title without needing to be star filled or head a shoulders better on paper.

[Norm2953]

Read on Twitter

Dame is still a long ways from asking for a trade and I don't think it would take much convincing to keep him in Portland

I just hope Cronin doesn't sell the 3rd pick cheaply

I just hate that this forum lacks any sort of nuance with this topic. Dame says one thing and it’s a hot take for 90% of the posters here or Net fans get their panties in a bind (Heat fans want him too but have better things to do).

Like you said, like Dame has been saying and like I’ve been saying, I think he is still a LONG way from “demanding” a trade. To me, it’s clear what the plan is here. Dame and Cronin are close. He’s willing to give Cronin one more summer to build a competitive team. After this summer, if the team is treading water or just flat out bad by January, then I think there’s an agreement between both Dame and the Blazers they’ll move him at the deadline. This doesn’t even feel like a secret, it seems pretty clear as day as the plan/agreement for both sides. Dame isn’t getting traded this summer, he will be with the team to start next season (as he has said), and what happens with him between the start and end of next season depends entirely on how good the team is.

I think this is very reasonable.

I do think the big move this summer will be to move Ant, especially if the team picks Scoot.

They will sign Jerami Grant and make a move for a front court piece. It'll be interesting if that guy ends
up being Ayton

Team might be okay if Scoot/Sharpe are ready for big minutes but I think the team will miss Ant more than they
know. Other than Dame/Grant, the team will be very young and the loss of Ant leaves very little quality depth.

It'll be interesting to see Scoot's development for if he is ready on day 1, he brings an attacking, downhill
style of play. He's going to have to be the PG and that fits with Dame, who has always had the ball will
be interesting

[JKiddy]

Read on Twitter

Dame is still a long ways from asking for a trade and I don't think it would take much convincing to keep him in Portland

I just hope Cronin doesn't sell the 3rd pick cheaply

I just hate that this forum lacks any sort of nuance with this topic. Dame says one thing and it’s a hot take for 90% of the posters here or Net fans get their panties in a bind (Heat fans want him too but have better things to do).

Like you said, like Dame has been saying and like I’ve been saying, I think he is still a LONG way from “demanding” a trade. To me, it’s clear what the plan is here. Dame and Cronin are close. He’s willing to give Cronin one more summer to build a competitive team. After this summer, if the team is treading water or just flat out bad by January, then I think there’s an agreement between both Dame and the Blazers they’ll move him at the deadline. This doesn’t even feel like a secret, it seems pretty clear as day as the plan/agreement for both sides. Dame isn’t getting traded this summer, he will be with the team to start next season (as he has said), and what happens with him between the start and end of next season depends entirely on how good the team is.

I agree here. I think unless a massive mistake is made this off-season and they do not bring in another star player or semi-star player then Dame will give it until minimum Jan 1 2024 before officially (and likely privately) asking out. That gives the team time to make a deal before the deadline. DusterBuster has a point here. It is very valid and similar to what the Nets did with KD.

[zzaj]

I’ll state again, even if the Blazers do nothing but keep the #3…I think they can be a PO team next year. The key will be (as it is EVERY year for every team—health). Both Miami and Denver are exactly 1 key injury away from not being where they are now.

Lillard
Sharpe
Simons
Thybulle
Grant
#3 (Miller probably)
Nurkic

Is a PO team if healthy, which is a big ask. And I think that’s all that Lillard needs to stay—to make the POs.

I just said the same thing and it’s why I don’t think the simple “well it’s that time, gotta trade your star” mindset has to be the only answer here. In the superteam era, I get it. But right now post LeBron / Warriors and pre any other dominate player/team, you can get far in the playoffs without needing an INSANE roster. As amazing as Jokic is, if Murray is injured or not fully 100%, you can get past Denver. If Tatum and Brown aren’t 100% healthy like it was this year, you can get past them. Same with Grizzlies, Suns, Sixers, etc.

Until (if) someone like Wemby starts dominating, there’s a window here where you can get to a title without needing to be star filled or head a shoulders better on paper.

Yep, I’m right there with you, Duster…

[Sinobas]

Sounds like Dame may not actually be hell bent on leaving if we don't trade #3. If the Blazer draft Miller, he may actually fill a hole pretty quickly. With Scoot, that's a bit of a log jam.

[HoopsFanAZ]

As the Instagram, again, makes clear ... it's not like a trade demand is imminent. It is well said by others that a demand or ask wouldn't necessarily be after the draft if they kept 3. It could be by the deadline.

However -- and I say this with no insider knowledge -- Sharpe, a SG, advanced the timeline. He makes trading Ant possible earlier, and Matisse can help bridge any gap as a temp starter. To get that stud forward, Ant looks like a part of it. Draft Scoot and there is a logjam, temporarily, because they'd make a move.

I don't want them to trade Dame, but it they do, I'd want it done earlier for two reasons -- (1) (lower to) no risk of anything going wrong until February and complicating a move, and (2) get assets now to get a rebuild going especially if it involved a pick in a couple weeks. The actual trade may have to wait, but getting the deal lined up with the right draftees …

[Norm2953]

I really would prefer a trade that is heavy in picks/swaps with as little long term contracts as
possible.

That would be the Miami package of Herro, Jovic + filler and picks/swaps.

Cleans up Portland's cap for years to come with a rebuild well under way, putting them on the road
much like the Thunder with lots of future picks to make moves to move up and down in future drafts
which is how every Portland rebuild has undergone since the 80's

[mighty_duck]

I’ll state again, even if the Blazers do nothing but keep the #3…I think they can be a PO team next year. The key will be (as it is EVERY year for every team—health). Both Miami and Denver are exactly 1 key injury away from not being where they are now.

Lillard
Sharpe
Simons
Thybulle
Grant
#3 (Miller probably)
Nurkic

Is a PO team if healthy, which is a big ask. And I think that’s all that Lillard needs to stay—to make the POs.

I'm not sure.
We were pretty healthy this year, and were out of the playoff picture early. Next year's team may be a bit better with growth from Sharpe and (very optiistically) #3 contributing, but I don't see a playoff shoe-in. I doubt Dame does either.
A less optimistic view is that we are actually weaker next year than the beginning of last - 3 of our key contributers are on the downslope of their carreers, we won't have Hart like we did last year, and rookies (even future HOFers) often take time before they give you useable production.

Staying put is just delaying the inevitable - trading Dame by the deadline.

[DaVoiceMaster]

Can't say I've seen either Scoot or Miller, or any other college player. It sounds like everyone after the 1st pick has flaws. Scoot and Amen can't shoot? I tend to lean towards Miller for that reason. On top of that, he has size for a SF. He's supposed to be a good shooter, as well. He is my pick, based on nothing bit hearsay. Unless there is a solid trade package in return, I keep the pick.

If the Blazers do trade Lillard, the Miami trade prospects do not excite me whatsoever. It's pretty much Herro and lame picks. Yawn! I would look at Brooklyn. Having said that, those Phoenix picks won't be all that good either. I would sooner trade him to Orlando for #6, #11, and a future pick unless Charlotte was willing to trade the #2 pick, Hayward, and William's for Lillard and Nurlic. Now I'm just getting carried away so I'll stop before someone tells me to STFU!!!

[Jsun947]

Can't say I've seen either Scoot or Miller, or any other college player. It sounds like everyone after the 1st pick has flaws. Scoot and Amen can't shoot? I tend to lean towards Miller for that reason. On top of that, he has size for a SF. He's supposed to be a good shooter, as well. He is my pick, based on nothing bit hearsay. Unless there is a solid trade package in return, I keep the pick.

If the Blazers do trade Lillard, the Miami trade prospects do not excite me whatsoever. It's pretty much Herro and lame picks. Yawn! I would look at Brooklyn. Having said that, those Phoenix picks won't be all that good either. I would sooner trade him to Orlando for #6, #11, and a future pick unless Charlotte was willing to trade the #2 pick, Hayward, and William's for Lillard and Nurlic. Now I'm just getting carried away so I'll stop before someone tells me to STFU!!!

I want all of their extra first round picks because they are likely to be late first rounders and they don’t have a good singular asset to send us, and a Nurkic/Claxton swap. In return though we take their most useless players/salaries.

Claxton
Simmons
Mills
Thomas
And 9 first round picks

#21 & #22
2025 1st (Best of their pick post swap with Houston or PHX)
(2) 2027 1st (Best 2 of their pick post swap with Houston, PHX, and Philly)
(2) 2028 1st (Their pick & Phnx)
(2) 2029 1st (best 2 of Brooklyn, Phnx, Dallas)


That leaves Brooklyn with this roster to compete with

Dame
Bridges
Johnson
Dinwiddie
DFS
Nurkic
O’Neal
Harris
Sharpe
Sumner

[Norm2953]

Can't say I've seen either Scoot or Miller, or any other college player. It sounds like everyone after the 1st pick has flaws. Scoot and Amen can't shoot? I tend to lean towards Miller for that reason. On top of that, he has size for a SF. He's supposed to be a good shooter, as well. He is my pick, based on nothing bit hearsay. Unless there is a solid trade package in return, I keep the pick.

If the Blazers do trade Lillard, the Miami trade prospects do not excite me whatsoever. It's pretty much Herro and lame picks. Yawn! I would look at Brooklyn. Having said that, those Phoenix picks won't be all that good either. I would sooner trade him to Orlando for #6, #11, and a future pick unless Charlotte was willing to trade the #2 pick, Hayward, and William's for Lillard and Nurlic. Now I'm just getting carried away so I'll stop before someone tells me to STFU!!!

I've got the Victor vs Scoot game from last fall on my DVR and have watched that game four times.

I'm skeptical Scoot will be an elite PG but he's like those classic 80's style PG's, who aggressively attacks
the basket. He's got big hands and will be a bit like Ja Morant without his 3 point game.

I continue to wait and see if Miller will workout in Portland for if he does not, its a big sign he either has
a promise or really expects to go to Charlotte.

I do think the new CBA is going to impact where Dame goes (if he goes). He's got to go to a team who feels
he is the final piece and one has to wonder if Brooklyn truly believes the addition of Dame would lead to
a title. Same as the Magic for they finished 34-48.

[monopoman]

Read on Twitter

Dame is still a long ways from asking for a trade and I don't think it would take much convincing to keep him in Portland

I just hope Cronin doesn't sell the 3rd pick cheaply

I just hate that this forum lacks any sort of nuance with this topic. Dame says one thing and it’s a hot take for 90% of the posters here or Net fans get their panties in a bind (Heat fans want him too but have better things to do).

Like you said, like Dame has been saying and like I’ve been saying, I think he is still a LONG way from “demanding” a trade. To me, it’s clear what the plan is here. Dame and Cronin are close. He’s willing to give Cronin one more summer to build a competitive team. After this summer, if the team is treading water or just flat out bad by January, then I think there’s an agreement between both Dame and the Blazers they’ll move him at the deadline. This doesn’t even feel like a secret, it seems pretty clear as day as the plan/agreement for both sides. Dame isn’t getting traded this summer, he will be with the team to start next season (as he has said), and what happens with him between the start and end of next season depends entirely on how good the team is.

Well that and dumbasses think he is going to use some cryptic method of wanting a trade but not demanding it like this. I think it's a 99% chance that if Dame ever wants a trade he will be very direct about it, not go to a random interview and hint about it but never say for sure.

So you see fans from other teams use every little tidbit as "Dame wants out!" no matter what.

We also have had him in a Blazer jersey for more than 10 years, it's not really a nice way to treat that situation by doing some roundabout wanting out without directly saying so. It's one thing to want out from a team that you were on for only a few years like KD it's a much bigger deal in this case.

[Norm2953]

I do think the Dame talk is overstated for Portland with Sharpe and pick 3 on their rookie deals, they
can afford to pay Dame his supermax contract as long as the team can get solid vets on good
contracts to support him.

Just avoid the $30+ million aisle when shopping in free agency/trade

[DaVoiceMaster]

I would seriously like to hang on to the #3 pick.

Send the #23 Pick and a 2nd Round Pick to Chicago and get our future pick back.

Resign Grant to whatever deal they already worked out.

Resign Thybulle and Eubanks.

Resign Winslow if he can be had for $4M/year.

Turn Nurkic, Simons, Little, and anyone else not named Sharpe, as well as the MLE, BAE, TPE, and any future picks, into a starting center, starting forward, and bench players.

[JKiddy]

Can't say I've seen either Scoot or Miller, or any other college player. It sounds like everyone after the 1st pick has flaws. Scoot and Amen can't shoot? I tend to lean towards Miller for that reason. On top of that, he has size for a SF. He's supposed to be a good shooter, as well. He is my pick, based on nothing bit hearsay. Unless there is a solid trade package in return, I keep the pick.

If the Blazers do trade Lillard, the Miami trade prospects do not excite me whatsoever. It's pretty much Herro and lame picks. Yawn! I would look at Brooklyn. Having said that, those Phoenix picks won't be all that good either. I would sooner trade him to Orlando for #6, #11, and a future pick unless Charlotte was willing to trade the #2 pick, Hayward, and William's for Lillard and Nurlic. Now I'm just getting carried away so I'll stop before someone tells me to STFU!!!

I want all of their extra first round picks because they are likely to be late first rounders and they don’t have a good singular asset to send us, and a Nurkic/Claxton swap. In return though we take their most useless players/salaries.

Claxton
Simmons
Mills
Thomas
And 9 first round picks

#21 & #22
2025 1st (Best of their pick post swap with Houston or PHX)
(2) 2027 1st (Best 2 of their pick post swap with Houston, PHX, and Philly)
(2) 2028 1st (Their pick & Phnx)
(2) 2029 1st (best 2 of Brooklyn, Phnx, Dallas)


That leaves Brooklyn with this roster to compete with

Dame
Bridges
Johnson
Dinwiddie
DFS
Nurkic
O’Neal
Harris
Sharpe
Sumner

I think only a few players ever would be able to get this deal for them over the last 30 years. Michael Jordan before 1992, LeBron before 2010, Kobe before 2000, and Duncan before 2001.

9 first round picks will never happen. You have to also remember the Stepien Rule.

Realistically if you remove Claxton and 5-6 of those picks that will likely be the deal.

[Wizenheimer]

Spoiler:

Can't say I've seen either Scoot or Miller, or any other college player. It sounds like everyone after the 1st pick has flaws. Scoot and Amen can't shoot? I tend to lean towards Miller for that reason. On top of that, he has size for a SF. He's supposed to be a good shooter, as well. He is my pick, based on nothing bit hearsay. Unless there is a solid trade package in return, I keep the pick.

If the Blazers do trade Lillard, the Miami trade prospects do not excite me whatsoever. It's pretty much Herro and lame picks. Yawn! I would look at Brooklyn. Having said that, those Phoenix picks won't be all that good either. I would sooner trade him to Orlando for #6, #11, and a future pick unless Charlotte was willing to trade the #2 pick, Hayward, and William's for Lillard and Nurlic. Now I'm just getting carried away so I'll stop before someone tells me to STFU!!!

I want all of their extra first round picks because they are likely to be late first rounders and they don’t have a good singular asset to send us, and a Nurkic/Claxton swap. In return though we take their most useless players/salaries.

Claxton
Simmons
Mills
Thomas
And 9 first round picks

#21 & #22

people need to stop putting any 2023 first round picks into any Dame-trade proposals. Dame's can't be traded until 3 weeks after the draft, and if he isn't demanding a trade right now he won't be demanding a trade 10 days into the off-season.

AFAIC, adding 2023 draft picks to Dame-trade fantasies are fake-shiny-objects. It might make the trade idea look better, but it's never going to happen soon enough for it to work

[Jsun947]

Can't say I've seen either Scoot or Miller, or any other college player. It sounds like everyone after the 1st pick has flaws. Scoot and Amen can't shoot? I tend to lean towards Miller for that reason. On top of that, he has size for a SF. He's supposed to be a good shooter, as well. He is my pick, based on nothing bit hearsay. Unless there is a solid trade package in return, I keep the pick.

If the Blazers do trade Lillard, the Miami trade prospects do not excite me whatsoever. It's pretty much Herro and lame picks. Yawn! I would look at Brooklyn. Having said that, those Phoenix picks won't be all that good either. I would sooner trade him to Orlando for #6, #11, and a future pick unless Charlotte was willing to trade the #2 pick, Hayward, and William's for Lillard and Nurlic. Now I'm just getting carried away so I'll stop before someone tells me to STFU!!!

I want all of their extra first round picks because they are likely to be late first rounders and they don’t have a good singular asset to send us, and a Nurkic/Claxton swap. In return though we take their most useless players/salaries.

Claxton
Simmons
Mills
Thomas
And 9 first round picks

#21 & #22
2025 1st (Best of their pick post swap with Houston or PHX)
(2) 2027 1st (Best 2 of their pick post swap with Houston, PHX, and Philly)
(2) 2028 1st (Their pick & Phnx)
(2) 2029 1st (best 2 of Brooklyn, Phnx, Dallas)


That leaves Brooklyn with this roster to compete with

Dame
Bridges
Johnson
Dinwiddie
DFS
Nurkic
O’Neal
Harris
Sharpe
Sumner

I think only a few players ever would be able to get this deal for them over the last 30 years. Michael Jordan before 1992, LeBron before 2010, Kobe before 2000, and Duncan before 2001.

9 first round picks will never happen. You have to also remember the Stepien Rule.

Realistically if you remove Claxton and 5-6 of those picks that will likely be the deal.

The nets can trade all these picks without violating the Stephen rule.

Picks in the 20s are not particularly valuable. For example you wouldn’t trade Dame now for expirings and 4 picks in this year in the 20s, and this is a good draft.

It would cost probably 2-3 1st just to dump Simmons salary, let alone get a player who’s consistently all NBA in the deal. None of the picks the Nets own have significant high end upside either. It’s not like Brooklyn has unprotected picks from teams who are probable to end up in the bottom 8 of the league any of those seasons. The nets don’t even have any good young players to send us back in a Dame deal.

[JKiddy]

I want all of their extra first round picks because they are likely to be late first rounders and they don’t have a good singular asset to send us, and a Nurkic/Claxton swap. In return though we take their most useless players/salaries.

Claxton
Simmons
Mills
Thomas
And 9 first round picks

#21 & #22
2025 1st (Best of their pick post swap with Houston or PHX)
(2) 2027 1st (Best 2 of their pick post swap with Houston, PHX, and Philly)
(2) 2028 1st (Their pick & Phnx)
(2) 2029 1st (best 2 of Brooklyn, Phnx, Dallas)


That leaves Brooklyn with this roster to compete with

Dame
Bridges
Johnson
Dinwiddie
DFS
Nurkic
O’Neal
Harris
Sharpe
Sumner

I think only a few players ever would be able to get this deal for them over the last 30 years. Michael Jordan before 1992, LeBron before 2010, Kobe before 2000, and Duncan before 2001.

9 first round picks will never happen. You have to also remember the Stepien Rule.

Realistically if you remove Claxton and 5-6 of those picks that will likely be the deal.

The nets can trade all these picks without violating the Stephen rule.

Picks in the 20s are not particularly valuable. For example you wouldn’t trade Dame now for expirings and 4 picks in this year in the 20s, and this is a good draft.

It would cost probably 2-3 1st just to dump Simmons salary, let alone get a player who’s consistently all NBA in the deal. None of the picks the Nets own have significant high end upside either. It’s not like Brooklyn has unprotected picks from teams who are probable to end up in the bottom 8 of the league any of those seasons. The nets don’t even have any good young players to send us back in a Dame deal.

@JSun947 - Do you realize how valuable the PHX picks are? They are about to rebuild in 2 years. DAL might not implode this offseason but do you really think they will be competitive in 2029?

That is what is going on here. They are figuring out which picks can be dealt. I would guess POR would get 2 of the PHX picks and a pick swap with the Nets about 5 years out. POR wants to rebuild and then hit on some major players throughout the next 5-6 years in the draft. I feel like they might want PHX's picks in 2027 or 2029. They might want that PHI pick the Nets own too.

The Nets won't deal Simmons if they need to trade more than one 1st with him. It is not how their front office works.