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Re: WOJ: Blazers are boring 

Post#21 » by GEE » Sun Jun 25, 2023 6:32 pm

Brooks is like the plague now. Remember that he publicly called Lebron old. Good luck to him finding another job in the NBA now. I honestly think Brooks time in the NBA is done.

My #1 choice is Rui Hachimura for the Full non-tax payer MLE @ $12.4/year. To me, that would be a steal in more ways than one.
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Post#22 » by JasonStern » Sun Jun 25, 2023 7:40 pm

GEE wrote:Brooks is like the plague now. Remember that he publicly called Lebron old. Good luck to him finding another job in the NBA now. I honestly think Brooks time in the NBA is done.

My #1 choice is Rui Hachimura for the Full non-tax payer MLE @ $12.4/year. To me, that would be a steal in more ways than one.


Right. Because calling LeBron old is a career killer. Not just being a mediocre wing/role player.

If we can bring back the people's champ, Will the thrill Barton, on a minimum contract, I support that. Use the MLE of a PF/C.
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Post#23 » by red_power » Sun Jun 25, 2023 7:53 pm

I think Blazers should prioritize adding some high quality big men this off season.. We are already full of undersized tweener wings who can't rebound much and our frontcourt rotation is extremely thin at the moment.
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Post#24 » by mhd » Sun Jun 25, 2023 9:15 pm

Wiz fan here. Kuzma would fit in well with you guys. He can guard 3-5 easily. He rebounds much better than you would expect. His FG% looks bad considering he was forced to playmake far too much considering Morris couldn't break down defenses and Beal was hurt too often. Doubt you'd give up Simons for him.
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Post#25 » by Jsun947 » Sun Jun 25, 2023 9:55 pm

mhd wrote:Wiz fan here. Kuzma would fit in well with you guys. He can guard 3-5 easily. He rebounds much better than you would expect. His FG% looks bad considering he was forced to playmake far too much considering Morris couldn't break down defenses and Beal was hurt too often. Doubt you'd give up Simons for him.


I think Kuzma would be significantly better for us then any other forward that is both reasonably available, and that we could realistically trade for before the offseason ends.

I’d have him ranked well above Hunter, Collins, Ben Simmons, Cam Johnson, Hayward, PJ Washington, Okoro, Osman, LeVert, Bogdanovic, KJ Martin, Batum, Covington, Rui, Vanderbilt, Crowder, Ingles, Nance, Toppin, Saric, Harris, Barnes, Isaiah Stewart, Boucher, and Olynyk.

Without significantly also upgrading at Center, I don’t believe adding Kuzma moves the ball enough where we can contend, therefor my preference is to trade Dame and officially start the rebuild.

However, if the org wants to keep Dame, and this would convince him to give it a shot then you likely have to go for it and extract as much value as you can from a third team who will take on Simon’s contract. In a perfect world those assets would allow you to upgrade from Nurkic. In reality though that would probably consist of unlocking our 1st from Chicago and then mortgaging our future draft which seems like a non starter to me.
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Post#26 » by red_power » Sun Jun 25, 2023 10:00 pm

mhd wrote:Wiz fan here. Kuzma would fit in well with you guys. He can guard 3-5 easily. He rebounds much better than you would expect. His FG% looks bad considering he was forced to playmake far too much considering Morris couldn't break down defenses and Beal was hurt too often. Doubt you'd give up Simons for him.

Don't worry man we are about to overpay a slightly above average wingman named Jerami Grant like twice his real worth anyway. But at least Blazers won't have to give up Ant to do that.
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Post#27 » by Jsun947 » Sun Jun 25, 2023 11:49 pm

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mhd wrote:Wiz fan here. Kuzma would fit in well with you guys. He can guard 3-5 easily. He rebounds much better than you would expect. His FG% looks bad considering he was forced to playmake far too much considering Morris couldn't break down defenses and Beal was hurt too often. Doubt you'd give up Simons for him.

Don't worry man we are about to overpay a slightly above average wingman named Jerami Grant like twice his real worth anyway. But at least Blazers won't have to give up Ant to do that.


I keep seeing people say this but what forward was given a new contract who produces similarly at a better price?
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Post#28 » by GEE » Mon Jun 26, 2023 1:00 am

Naz Reid just signed a 3 yrs/$42 mil extension. He wouldn't have been the worst option for some depth on our roster, but my point is... I think Minny just set the market price with this trade, and hopefully fired the starting gun.
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Post#29 » by Norm2953 » Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:02 am

That's an interesting spot Minnesota is in with a ton of salaries in Towns, Gobert and now Reid.

One would think one of Gobert/Towns needs to go but who would be in position to take on
Towns' $250 million or the $130 million left on Gobert's deal?
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Post#30 » by GEE » Mon Jun 26, 2023 3:07 am

Norm2953 wrote:That's an interesting spot Minnesota is in with a ton of salaries in Towns, Gobert and now Reid.

One would think one of Gobert/Towns needs to go but who would be in position to take on
Towns' $250 million or the $130 million left on Gobert's deal?


While I personally wouldn't want any part of KAT's massive deal, Golbert if available would be worth considering. Minny is a mess, and I'm a little surprised they spent fairly big on their 3rd Big. I think they may be a bit delusional in thinking they are better than they actually are. Perhaps they plan to move one of KAT or Gobert. Then signing Reid to that money would make plenty of sense.
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Post#31 » by ebott » Mon Jun 26, 2023 6:37 am

GEE wrote:People around here still think Simons is getting traded... interesting. 8-)

Replace the word think with hope.
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Post#32 » by GEE » Mon Jun 26, 2023 5:33 pm

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mhd wrote:Wiz fan here. Kuzma would fit in well with you guys. He can guard 3-5 easily. He rebounds much better than you would expect. His FG% looks bad considering he was forced to playmake far too much considering Morris couldn't break down defenses and Beal was hurt too often. Doubt you'd give up Simons for him.

Don't worry man we are about to overpay a slightly above average wingmahttps://forums.realgm.com/boards/posting.php?mode=edit&f=28&p=107177703#n named Jerami Grant like twice his real worth anyway. But at least Blazers won't have to give up Ant to do that.


My choice would be neither. Kuzma is so far away from what this team needs, with Grant being the obvious reason there, but I think that having either one only hurts the develpment of the young core obviously being built by Cronin.

We had a GREAT draft. Now if Cronin can just work with Dame, and help him to land softly in BRK with a really smart deal that includes Nurkic, I'd have to think Cronin is well on his way to having a great off-season. Free-Agency, along with deciding who we try to resign and who we let go will be the remainig adjustments to the roster.

In Cronin I trust: Great Draft + Great Dame trade + Great Free agent in Rui Hachimura (MY #1 target) will be sooo much better than "The Treadmill", and for Cronin... a Homerun of an off-season.
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Post#33 » by mighty_duck » Mon Jun 26, 2023 8:44 pm

GEE wrote:Rui Hachimura (MY #1 target) will be sooo much better than "The Treadmill", and for Cronin... a Homerun of an off-season.

I watched Rui quite a bit last year. He had a magical playoff run, but his regular season was nothing to write home about.
He's average or below average at almost every aspect of the game (3pt shooting, perimeter defense, help defense, shot blocking,
rebounding, post work, etc.). He is good (not great) at basketball's least important skill - the midrange shot. And can hold his own against a few plodding big men, provided he has a DPOY candidate as a help defender. He's a decent athlete, but it doesn't translate to getting things done.

Overall, an OK 7-8 man. But not a #1 offseason target (unless you are tanking!). He's also a restricted free agent, and given the Laker's situation, they will match any reasonable offer.

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