Knicks and Blazers

[PDXKnight]

I think the knicks paid too much for bridges to be honest. Maybe it pays off but if they don't win a title they've given up a ton of assets for a guy who isn't a true first or second option

[Case2012]

I think it's really funny that the Knicks assembled the team I wanted to put around Dame. I wanted Randle for Simons, Shaedon for OG, and 3 for Bridges. Plus all the picks we could have sent by getting our pick from chicago back. We could have done this.

I'm gonna have to dig through the last 2 offseason threads to quote my ideas. Everyone laughed, now look...

[Pattycakes]

I think the knicks paid too much for bridges to be honest. Maybe it pays off but if they don't win a title they've given up a ton of assets for a guy who isn't a true first or second option

Agreed. He’s around 3-4 best player on a contender. I don’t think you mortgage the boat on that

[DusterBuster]

I think the knicks paid too much for bridges to be honest. Maybe it pays off but if they don't win a title they've given up a ton of assets for a guy who isn't a true first or second option

Probably, but at least they are going for it.

[Norm2953]

Imagine how money Bridges will earn in his next contract for after the price the Knicks paid to get him.

[DusterBuster]

I think it's really funny that the Knicks assembled the team I wanted to put around Dame. I wanted Randle for Simons, Shaedon for OG, and 3 for Bridges. Plus all the picks we could have sent by getting our pick from chicago back. We could have done this.

I'm gonna have to dig through the last 2 offseason threads to quote my ideas. Everyone laughed, now look...

I get the idea of this being the team you wanted built, I question if the Blazers could have got it done with the assets they had to work with. Olshey quite literally handcuffed the Blazers draft capital for **** Larry Nance Jr. Plus at that point, the price for OG was higher than what the Knicks ended up paying for him. Then additionally Bridges' just simply wasn't available for any price given what he ended the season as looking like a star in the making.

Bridges also reportedly was planning to force this move to the Knicks and work with his agent to push off any other team in FA.

So I get your thought process, but don't actually think the reality of it was feasible.

[Case2012]

I think it's really funny that the Knicks assembled the team I wanted to put around Dame. I wanted Randle for Simons, Shaedon for OG, and 3 for Bridges. Plus all the picks we could have sent by getting our pick from chicago back. We could have done this.

I'm gonna have to dig through the last 2 offseason threads to quote my ideas. Everyone laughed, now look...

I get the idea of this being the team you wanted built, I question if the Blazers could have got it done with the assets they had to work with. Olshey quite literally handcuffed the Blazers draft capital for **** Larry Nance Jr. Plus at that point, the price for OG was higher than what the Knicks ended up paying for him. Then additionally Bridges' just simply wasn't available for any price given what he ended the season as looking like a star in the making.

Bridges also reportedly was planning to force this move to the Knicks and work with his agent to push off any other team in FA.

So I get your thought process, but don't actually think the reality of it was feasible.

I wouldn't trust the report of Mikal forcing his way to NY with 2 years left on his deal, that source was not that reliable. I agree with your other points. Raps way overvalued OG and held on too long, and BK turned down 4 firsts before for Mikal. But I still think there's a universe it could have happened. It's just crazy how hard I beat that drum for these moves and the knicks did it. I really enjoyed watching them this PO too, seeing what could have been with Dame if the blazers weren't owned by cheap cowards.

*I guess he must have said something about wanting to be a knick, but we had Hart already and they're all good friends apparently? Just let me dream.

[DusterBuster]

I think it's really funny that the Knicks assembled the team I wanted to put around Dame. I wanted Randle for Simons, Shaedon for OG, and 3 for Bridges. Plus all the picks we could have sent by getting our pick from chicago back. We could have done this.

I'm gonna have to dig through the last 2 offseason threads to quote my ideas. Everyone laughed, now look...

I get the idea of this being the team you wanted built, I question if the Blazers could have got it done with the assets they had to work with. Olshey quite literally handcuffed the Blazers draft capital for **** Larry Nance Jr. Plus at that point, the price for OG was higher than what the Knicks ended up paying for him. Then additionally Bridges' just simply wasn't available for any price given what he ended the season as looking like a star in the making.

Bridges also reportedly was planning to force this move to the Knicks and work with his agent to push off any other team in FA.

So I get your thought process, but don't actually think the reality of it was feasible.

I wouldn't trust the report of Mikal forcing his way to NY with 2 years left on his deal, that source was not that reliable. I agree with your other points. Raps way overvalued OG and held on too long, and BK turned down 4 firsts before for Mikal. But I still think there's a universe it could have happened. It's just crazy how hard I beat that drum for these moves and the knicks did it. I really enjoyed watching them this PO too, seeing what could have been with Dame if the blazers weren't owned by cheap cowards.

Agreed, the universe where Olshey didn't trade away a lottery protected first rounder from now until the next century to Chicago for a backup PF lol.

[DusterBuster]

I think it's really funny that the Knicks assembled the team I wanted to put around Dame. I wanted Randle for Simons, Shaedon for OG, and 3 for Bridges. Plus all the picks we could have sent by getting our pick from chicago back. We could have done this.

I'm gonna have to dig through the last 2 offseason threads to quote my ideas. Everyone laughed, now look...

I get the idea of this being the team you wanted built, I question if the Blazers could have got it done with the assets they had to work with. Olshey quite literally handcuffed the Blazers draft capital for **** Larry Nance Jr. Plus at that point, the price for OG was higher than what the Knicks ended up paying for him. Then additionally Bridges' just simply wasn't available for any price given what he ended the season as looking like a star in the making.

Bridges also reportedly was planning to force this move to the Knicks and work with his agent to push off any other team in FA.

So I get your thought process, but don't actually think the reality of it was feasible.

I wouldn't trust the report of Mikal forcing his way to NY with 2 years left on his deal, that source was not that reliable. I agree with your other points. Raps way overvalued OG and held on too long, and BK turned down 4 firsts before for Mikal. But I still think there's a universe it could have happened. It's just crazy how hard I beat that drum for these moves and the knicks did it. I really enjoyed watching them this PO too, seeing what could have been with Dame if the blazers weren't owned by cheap cowards.

*I guess he must have said something about wanting to be a knick, but we had Hart already and they're all good friends apparently? Just let me dream.

Not trying to not let you dream, but I also don't think the issue was the Blazers being cheap. It was the repercussions of Olshey **** the Blazers over for Larry Nance Jr.

I have to wonder what the Blazers future would have been with Dame had that pick not just completely handcuffed the franchise from making a multi-future first round pick deal.

[Case2012]

There's not many people i genuinely despise that I don't know personally outside of politics or celebrities but Olshey tops the list... Cronin is high up there too, but I'll wait to see how epically Olshey's disciple fumbles yet another pivotal franchise moment tomorrow. JFC, the returns KD, Bridges, Mitchell, Gobert, Harden, etc got compared to dame AND jrue is atrocious. Cronin is at least a "nice guy", so I'll give him that. Just get me Knecht and Edey and all will be forgiven.

[DusterBuster]

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[DusterBuster]

There's not many people i genuinely despise that I don't know personally outside of politics or celebrities but Olshey tops the list... Cronin is high up there too, but I'll wait to see how epically Olshey's disciple fumbles yet another pivotal franchise moment tomorrow. JFC, the returns KD, Bridges, Mitchell, Gobert, Harden, etc got compared to dame AND jrue is atrocious. Cronin is at least a "nice guy", so I'll give him that. Just get me Knecht and Edey and all will be forgiven.

I don't "hate" Cronin like I do Olshey. I was willing to defend Olshey for awhile until he just starting floundering those last few years, pissing away FRP's for backups and sub-par starters, only to tell people they're stupid for not liking his moves and blaming the coach.

It's too early right now to judge the Dame deal (rolling Jrue in as part of that), so not going to slam Cronin on that. My biggest gripe right now with Cronin is that he needs to get over the nice guy ****. It's great to be nice to players and send them where they want, but if you're doing it at the expense of the best possible deal, you can see yourself out.

[m0ng0]

I think it's really funny that the Knicks assembled the team I wanted to put around Dame. I wanted Randle for Simons, Shaedon for OG, and 3 for Bridges. Plus all the picks we could have sent by getting our pick from chicago back. We could have done this.

I'm gonna have to dig through the last 2 offseason threads to quote my ideas. Everyone laughed, now look...

And as of yet we have no idea if this epiphany you had will actually work so don't pat yourself on the back yet.

[DusterBuster]

I think it's really funny that the Knicks assembled the team I wanted to put around Dame. I wanted Randle for Simons, Shaedon for OG, and 3 for Bridges. Plus all the picks we could have sent by getting our pick from chicago back. We could have done this.

I'm gonna have to dig through the last 2 offseason threads to quote my ideas. Everyone laughed, now look...

And as of yet we have no idea if this epiphany you had will actually work so don't pat yourself on the back yet.

Every team is a world beater on paper in July.

[The Sebastian Express]

I think it's really funny that the Knicks assembled the team I wanted to put around Dame. I wanted Randle for Simons, Shaedon for OG, and 3 for Bridges. Plus all the picks we could have sent by getting our pick from chicago back. We could have done this.

I'm gonna have to dig through the last 2 offseason threads to quote my ideas. Everyone laughed, now look...

I mean your idea of three for Bridges is not unique. Portland appears to have offered that and were turned down by the Nets. Portland also appears to have offered the seventh for OG but Toronto wanted more. So again.. these are things that happened and are not unique.

Also doubt anyone would've traded Randle for Simons.

[DusterBuster]

I think it's really funny that the Knicks assembled the team I wanted to put around Dame. I wanted Randle for Simons, Shaedon for OG, and 3 for Bridges. Plus all the picks we could have sent by getting our pick from chicago back. We could have done this.

I'm gonna have to dig through the last 2 offseason threads to quote my ideas. Everyone laughed, now look...

I mean your idea of three for Bridges is not unique. Portland appears to have offered that and were turned down by the Nets. Portland also appears to have offered the seventh for OG but Toronto wanted more. So again.. these are things that happened and are not unique.

Also doubt anyone would've traded Randle for Simons.

Additionally, both the Raptors and Brooklyn at that time wanted substantially more than just those high lottery picks for OG and Bridges (who by all accounts was untouchable last summer given how he played post-KD trade)... and as mentioned, Portland couldn't offer future picks any trade because of the trade for HOF backup PF/C Larry Nance Jr. Maybe they had ways to unlock that CHI pick, but if they did, it was never reported so we can never know for sure.

[Case2012]

I think it's really funny that the Knicks assembled the team I wanted to put around Dame. I wanted Randle for Simons, Shaedon for OG, and 3 for Bridges. Plus all the picks we could have sent by getting our pick from chicago back. We could have done this.

I'm gonna have to dig through the last 2 offseason threads to quote my ideas. Everyone laughed, now look...

I mean your idea of three for Bridges is not unique. Portland appears to have offered that and were turned down by the Nets. Portland also appears to have offered the seventh for OG but Toronto wanted more. So again.. these are things that happened and are not unique.

Also doubt anyone would've traded Randle for Simons.

Cool.

[Case2012]

I think it's really funny that the Knicks assembled the team I wanted to put around Dame. I wanted Randle for Simons, Shaedon for OG, and 3 for Bridges. Plus all the picks we could have sent by getting our pick from chicago back. We could have done this.

I'm gonna have to dig through the last 2 offseason threads to quote my ideas. Everyone laughed, now look...

I mean your idea of three for Bridges is not unique. Portland appears to have offered that and were turned down by the Nets. Portland also appears to have offered the seventh for OG but Toronto wanted more. So again.. these are things that happened and are not unique.

Also doubt anyone would've traded Randle for Simons.

Additionally, both the Raptors and Brooklyn at that time wanted substantially more than just those high lottery picks for OG and Bridges (who by all accounts was untouchable last summer given how he played post-KD trade)... and as mentioned, Portland couldn't offer future picks any trade because of the trade for HOF backup PF/C Larry Nance Jr. Maybe they had ways to unlock that CHI pick, but if they did, it was never reported so we can never know for sure.

Yup. When I was proposing all these things it was all contingent on getting the pick back. I guess I opened myself up to the "well what about this, or actually" comments by my OP but I still proposed the same team around Dame and it's interesting to see that team materialize and be extremely successful and entertaining. We'll never know if we could have made those trades because the vulcans are cheap and cowardly. Of course they didn't go all in around Dame, Olshey and Cronin are realllly bad GM's who are terrible at trading and roster construction.

[JasonStern]

I think it's really funny that the Knicks assembled the team I wanted to put around Dame. I wanted Randle for Simons, Shaedon for OG, and 3 for Bridges. Plus all the picks we could have sent by getting our pick from chicago back. We could have done this.

I'm gonna have to dig through the last 2 offseason threads to quote my ideas. Everyone laughed, now look...

I get the idea of this being the team you wanted built, I question if the Blazers could have got it done with the assets they had to work with. Olshey quite literally handcuffed the Blazers draft capital for **** Larry Nance Jr.

(Cracks open a beer)
Plus two 1st round picks for Covington. Three first round picks. Plus swaps. And this is what we have. And one of the picks hasn't even conveyed.

[JasonStern]

History forgets itself, but Wizenheimer and I were the biggest Olshey supporters. And even we were booing during the hiring announcement. Probably broke a TV screen throwing a beer bottle.