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Re: Post Draft: 2025 Off Season Part 2- What's Next? 

Post#21 » by Braggins » Fri Jun 27, 2025 11:27 am

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Who could we put a package together for the starting 2 spot?

I kind of like Malik Monk on this team. You guys are so stacked with defense but need shooting and probably another decent passer. Monk doesn't shoot quite as well as Simons, but he plays with more fire and is a better passer plus hes cheaper. Monk isn't a good defender, but he competes harder on that end than Simons and is more athletic.

His efficiency decreased in Sacramento the more they played him as a primary initiator and I think he needs to be on a team where he can play with an on/off ball split that is slanted more towards off ball. I think playing with Scoot/Deni/Jrue would allow him to play his natural role.
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Re: Post Draft: 2025 Off Season Part 2- What's Next? 

Post#22 » by HoopsFanAZ » Tue Jul 1, 2025 6:29 am

And now with Ayton gone, time to recalculate on the thread if only to add Yang behind Clingan and Time Lord at center.
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Re: Post Draft: 2025 Off Season Part 2- What's Next? 

Post#23 » by Dame Lizard » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:55 am

Case2012 wrote:I would really like to upgrade Shaedon...

Who could we put a package together for the starting 2 spot?

Holiday/Scoot
Camara/Sharpe
Deni/Thybulle
Grant/Thybulle
Ayton/Clingan

I actually kind of love this because I think Camara has more scoring potential than most people think and would not be surprised if he topped out around 18-19 ppg with shots and I think Sharpe is a 6th man type player.

Or I would still really like to figure out how to get Knecht in a Grant or Ayton deal.

Holiday/Scoot
Knecht/Sharpe
Camara/Thybulle
Deni/Grant
Clingan/RW/Yang

I have no doubt Knecht can put up 18-20 in a starting role on a team that desperately needs shooting and Knecht offers that but we also would have to take all these other guys i dont care about for salary...
I'd rather audition Shaedon for the starting 2 spot this year.

I'd rather avoid trading valuable draft picks for temporary fixes. The picks we used to trade for Afflalo, Covington and Nance Jr could have instead been used to bring in a disgruntled star.

I'd rather wait for an opportune time and swing for the fences. We need another player in a similar tier as Deni to justify that kind of swing imo - particularly given how strong the West is currently.
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Re: Post Draft: 2025 Off Season Part 2- What's Next? 

Post#24 » by Village Idiot » Tue Jul 1, 2025 11:33 am

I notice that Obi Toppin makes $14 million which is $104,000 less than the non-taxpayer MLE. With Indy looking to cut salary he could be an acquisition target regardless of whether we move Grant or not.

PG: Holiday, Scoot
SG: Camara, Sharpe, Rupert
SF: Deni, Thybulle, Murray
PF: Grant, Toppin
C: Clingan, RW3/Yang

would be a reallly fun team. That second unit would be the best in the league IMHO
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Re: Post Draft: 2025 Off Season Part 2- What's Next? 

Post#25 » by Butter » Tue Jul 1, 2025 1:16 pm

Dame Lizard wrote:
Case2012 wrote:I would really like to upgrade Shaedon...

Who could we put a package together for the starting 2 spot?

Holiday/Scoot
Camara/Sharpe
Deni/Thybulle
Grant/Thybulle
Ayton/Clingan

I actually kind of love this because I think Camara has more scoring potential than most people think and would not be surprised if he topped out around 18-19 ppg with shots and I think Sharpe is a 6th man type player.

Or I would still really like to figure out how to get Knecht in a Grant or Ayton deal.

Holiday/Scoot
Knecht/Sharpe
Camara/Thybulle
Deni/Grant
Clingan/RW/Yang

I have no doubt Knecht can put up 18-20 in a starting role on a team that desperately needs shooting and Knecht offers that but we also would have to take all these other guys i dont care about for salary...
I'd rather audition Shaedon for the starting 2 spot this year.

I'd rather avoid trading valuable draft picks for temporary fixes. The picks we used to trade for Afflalo, Covington and Nance Jr could have instead been used to bring in a disgruntled star.

I'd rather wait for an opportune time and swing for the fences. We need another player in a similar tier as Deni to justify that kind of swing imo - particularly given how strong the West is currently.


I agree, let him play out his rookie deal this year and enter restricted FA next season.

The Blazers need Sharp to be a dominant scorer this year. If he can stay healthy, there should be no excuses.
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Re: Post Draft: 2025 Off Season Part 2- What's Next? 

Post#26 » by Village Idiot » Tue Jul 1, 2025 1:23 pm

Butter wrote:
Dame Lizard wrote:
Case2012 wrote:I would really like to upgrade Shaedon...

Who could we put a package together for the starting 2 spot?

Holiday/Scoot
Camara/Sharpe
Deni/Thybulle
Grant/Thybulle
Ayton/Clingan

I actually kind of love this because I think Camara has more scoring potential than most people think and would not be surprised if he topped out around 18-19 ppg with shots and I think Sharpe is a 6th man type player.

Or I would still really like to figure out how to get Knecht in a Grant or Ayton deal.

Holiday/Scoot
Knecht/Sharpe
Camara/Thybulle
Deni/Grant
Clingan/RW/Yang

I have no doubt Knecht can put up 18-20 in a starting role on a team that desperately needs shooting and Knecht offers that but we also would have to take all these other guys i dont care about for salary...
I'd rather audition Shaedon for the starting 2 spot this year.

I'd rather avoid trading valuable draft picks for temporary fixes. The picks we used to trade for Afflalo, Covington and Nance Jr could have instead been used to bring in a disgruntled star.

I'd rather wait for an opportune time and swing for the fences. We need another player in a similar tier as Deni to justify that kind of swing imo - particularly given how strong the West is currently.


I agree, let him play out his rookie deal this year and enter restricted FA next season.

The Blazers need Sharp to be a dominant scorer this year. If he can stay healthy, there should be no excuses.
100% On a team full of good defenders Sharpe will need to pick up his effort and skill-level on that side of the ball if he wants the big money.
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Re: Post Draft: 2025 Off Season Part 2- What's Next? 

Post#27 » by Jsun947 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 1:43 pm

I’d let Rupert go, he hasn’t shown he’s an NBA player and I don’t see how he gets there without dramatic improvement in multiple areas.

We need to trade Grant and Timelord if we don’t take back salary in additional years but not at the cost of future first round picks.
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Post#28 » by zzaj » Tue Jul 1, 2025 1:48 pm

Jsun947 wrote:I’d let Rupert go, he hasn’t shown he’s an NBA player and I don’t see how he gets there without dramatic improvement in multiple areas.

We need to trade Grant and Timelord if we don’t take back salary in additional years but not at the cost of future first round picks.


I believe the Blazers already picked up his option for a couple million...
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Re: Post Draft: 2025 Off Season Part 2- What's Next? 

Post#29 » by DaVoiceMaster » Tue Jul 1, 2025 5:35 pm

Case2012 wrote:I would really like to upgrade Shaedon...

Who could we put a package together for the starting 2 spot?

Holiday/Scoot
Camara/Sharpe
Deni/Thybulle
Grant/Thybulle
Ayton/Clingan

I actually kind of love this because I think Camara has more scoring potential than most people think and would not be surprised if he topped out around 18-19 ppg with shots and I think Sharpe is a 6th man type player.

Or I would still really like to figure out how to get Knecht in a Grant or Ayton deal.

Holiday/Scoot
Knecht/Sharpe
Camara/Thybulle
Deni/Grant
Clingan/RW/Yang

I have no doubt Knecht can put up 18-20 in a starting role on a team that desperately needs shooting and Knecht offers that but we also would have to take all these other guys i dont care about for salary...


Atlanta just signed Kennard and Alexander-Walker. How can we get Daniels from them?
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Re: Post Draft: 2025 Off Season Part 2- What's Next? 

Post#30 » by DaVoiceMaster » Tue Jul 1, 2025 5:36 pm

Village Idiot wrote:
Butter wrote:
Dame Lizard wrote:I'd rather audition Shaedon for the starting 2 spot this year.

I'd rather avoid trading valuable draft picks for temporary fixes. The picks we used to trade for Afflalo, Covington and Nance Jr could have instead been used to bring in a disgruntled star.

I'd rather wait for an opportune time and swing for the fences. We need another player in a similar tier as Deni to justify that kind of swing imo - particularly given how strong the West is currently.


I agree, let him play out his rookie deal this year and enter restricted FA next season.

The Blazers need Sharp to be a dominant scorer this year. If he can stay healthy, there should be no excuses.
100% On a team full of good defenders Sharpe will need to pick up his effort and skill-level on that side of the ball if he wants the big money.


If they can sign him for $20M (in that ball park), perhaps the Blazers sign him now. If he has a kick ass season, it'll cost them twice that.
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Re: Post Draft: 2025 Off Season Part 2- What's Next? 

Post#31 » by DaVoiceMaster » Tue Jul 1, 2025 5:38 pm

Village Idiot wrote:I notice that Obi Toppin makes $14 million which is $104,000 less than the non-taxpayer MLE. With Indy looking to cut salary he could be an acquisition target regardless of whether we move Grant or not.

PG: Holiday, Scoot
SG: Camara, Sharpe, Rupert
SF: Deni, Thybulle, Murray
PF: Grant, Toppin
C: Clingan, RW3/Yang

would be a reallly fun team. That second unit would be the best in the league IMHO


I liked Toppin in the playoffs. I'd be happy with him. I'd be interested in Walker, as well. If Indiana loses Turner to Milwaukee, does Indy have the money to keep both players?
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Re: Post Draft: 2025 Off Season Part 2- What's Next? 

Post#32 » by Butter » Tue Jul 1, 2025 8:44 pm

DaVoiceMaster wrote:
Village Idiot wrote:
Butter wrote:
I agree, let him play out his rookie deal this year and enter restricted FA next season.

The Blazers need Sharp to be a dominant scorer this year. If he can stay healthy, there should be no excuses.
100% On a team full of good defenders Sharpe will need to pick up his effort and skill-level on that side of the ball if he wants the big money.


If they can sign him for $20M (in that ball park), perhaps the Blazers sign him now. If he has a kick ass season, it'll cost them twice that.


That is a good point. It's such a gamble.

Acknowledge your point that they could get a better deal if they sign him now. It shows confidence and hopefully builds trust

Worst case scenario, he walks for nothing. But, they could wait and angle for a sign and trade if he goes off this year.
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Re: Post Draft: 2025 Off Season Part 2- What's Next? 

Post#33 » by BlazersBroncos » Tue Jul 1, 2025 9:14 pm

I think you could sign Sharpe for 20M, have him make no progress in 25/26 and still trade him for neutral salary and a late teens / early 20's FRP.

If you can get him on that number, you do it ASAP.
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Post#34 » by DusterBuster » Tue Jul 1, 2025 9:19 pm

Totally OT, but Denver is quietly having a fantastic offseason... even better than Houston imo.
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Post#35 » by Dame Lizard » Tue Jul 1, 2025 9:25 pm

DusterBuster wrote:Totally OT, but Denver is quietly having a fantastic offseason... even better than Houston imo.
Agree. That Jonas trade is phenomenal for them. If they can pick up another shooter, Denver is looking scary again.

Edit: I just saw that Denver signed Hardaway Jr. That's their shooter. Wow.
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Post#36 » by Dame Lizard » Tue Jul 1, 2025 9:29 pm

BlazersBroncos wrote:I think you could sign Sharpe for 20M, have him make no progress in 25/26 and still trade him for neutral salary and a late teens / early 20's FRP.

If you can get him on that number, you do it ASAP.
I think Shaedon at 20m is unrealistic. I think the Jabari Smith Jr contract amount of 25m is the minimum, unfortunately.
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Re: Post Draft: 2025 Off Season Part 2- What's Next? 

Post#37 » by DusterBuster » Tue Jul 1, 2025 10:41 pm

Dame Lizard wrote:
BlazersBroncos wrote:I think you could sign Sharpe for 20M, have him make no progress in 25/26 and still trade him for neutral salary and a late teens / early 20's FRP.

If you can get him on that number, you do it ASAP.
I think Shaedon at 20m is unrealistic. I think the Jabari Smith Jr contract amount of 25m is the minimum, unfortunately.


If the Blazers are having a "fiscally responsible offseason", the smart move with their rookies is to get Tou resigned and then let Sharpe have a prove-it year and get his money as a RFA next summer.
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Re: Post Draft: 2025 Off Season Part 2- What's Next? 

Post#38 » by mighty_duck » Tue Jul 1, 2025 10:59 pm

Dame Lizard wrote:I think Shaedon at 20m is unrealistic. I think the Jabari Smith Jr contract amount of 25m is the minimum, unfortunately.

Assuming he isn't extended this summer...
If he has another season jacking up 7 3's a night and only hitting 31%, along with questionable defense and effort, 20m is more than he is worth.
Unfortunately, next year a lot of teams will have cap space, so someone will overpay for him.
I'm really hoping he dials in this year, and earns a contract that is better than Jabari's!
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Re: Post Draft: 2025 Off Season Part 2- What's Next? 

Post#39 » by Norm2953 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 11:10 pm

It'll be interesting to see if there are any changes to the Jrue/Simons deal, which finalizes on July 6

It does appear the team will sit tight this summer other than perhaps extend Toumani. Not the worst
course of action for this is not a great FA class
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Re: Post Draft: 2025 Off Season Part 2- What's Next? 

Post#40 » by Dame Lizard » Tue Jul 1, 2025 11:26 pm

DusterBuster wrote:
Dame Lizard wrote:
BlazersBroncos wrote:I think you could sign Sharpe for 20M, have him make no progress in 25/26 and still trade him for neutral salary and a late teens / early 20's FRP.

If you can get him on that number, you do it ASAP.
I think Shaedon at 20m is unrealistic. I think the Jabari Smith Jr contract amount of 25m is the minimum, unfortunately.


If the Blazers are having a "fiscally responsible offseason", the smart move with their rookies is to get Tou resigned and then let Sharpe have a prove-it year and get his money as a RFA next summer.
I'd be happy with this path. Pay Toumani and let Sharpe prove himself.

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