ImageImage

Blow it Up Trade Ideas

Moderators: Moonbeam, DeBlazerRiddem

User avatar
DusterBuster
RealGM
Posts: 36,631
And1: 22,363
Joined: Jan 31, 2010
   

Re: Blow it Up Trade Ideas 

Post#201 » by DusterBuster » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:50 pm

Wizenheimer wrote:
Norm2953 wrote:With the apparent injury to Joe Ingles, Utah which has been interested in Roco might have to
complete a deal with Portland using Ingles and FRP to get him.


Utah does not have a 1st round pick to trade till 2028. That is practically worthless


I wasn't aware of Utah's pick situation, so yeah, I don't really see any realistic 2 team deal that I would move RoCo to Utah for.
Get ready to learn Chinese buddy... #YangBang
Norm2953
RealGM
Posts: 16,511
And1: 2,246
Joined: May 17, 2003
Location: Oregon

Re: Blow it Up Trade Ideas 

Post#202 » by Norm2953 » Mon Jan 31, 2022 6:02 pm

I took a peek at Utah’s future pick status and yes while they might technically might not have a future pick any time soon, it’s almost virtually certain to convey this year for it’s only top 6 protected and they are a playoff team.
User avatar
DusterBuster
RealGM
Posts: 36,631
And1: 22,363
Joined: Jan 31, 2010
   

Re: Blow it Up Trade Ideas 

Post#203 » by DusterBuster » Mon Jan 31, 2022 6:55 pm

Norm2953 wrote:I took a peek at Utah’s future pick status and yes while they might technically might not have a future pick any time soon, it’s almost virtually certain to convey this year for it’s only top 6 protected and they are a playoff team.


They're still locked into being not able to trade the pick at the deadline.
Get ready to learn Chinese buddy... #YangBang
Norm2953
RealGM
Posts: 16,511
And1: 2,246
Joined: May 17, 2003
Location: Oregon

Re: Blow it Up Trade Ideas 

Post#204 » by Norm2953 » Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:04 pm

They could simply pay a few bucks to remove the protection on the pick for the other team knows they are
getting the pick. Whether they choose to pay the few bucks is another matter
GOBlazers
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,914
And1: 24
Joined: Apr 24, 2008
 

Re: Blow it Up Trade Ideas 

Post#205 » by GOBlazers » Mon Jan 31, 2022 9:50 pm

Norm2953 wrote:They could simply pay a few bucks to remove the protection on the pick for the other team knows they are
getting the pick. Whether they choose to pay the few bucks is another matter


I like it. How soon of a pick could we get from Utah if they paid to have the pick protection removed?
User avatar
JasonStern
RealGM
Posts: 12,297
And1: 4,312
Joined: Dec 13, 2008
 

Re: Blow it Up Trade Ideas 

Post#206 » by JasonStern » Tue Feb 1, 2022 10:48 pm

The worst part about blowing this team up is they're actually a pretty likeable bunch. There isn't even a Hezonja for me to crap on. Not a fan of Tony Snell or Colton Zeller, but I don't actively dislike them or anything.
Because love can burn like a cigarette.
And leave you left with nothing.
Leave you left with nothing.
JRoy
RealGM
Posts: 17,173
And1: 14,521
Joined: Feb 27, 2019
 

Re: Blow it Up Trade Ideas 

Post#207 » by JRoy » Tue Feb 1, 2022 11:40 pm

Hezonja deserves to be crapped upon.

His game was an offense to the gods.
Edrees wrote:
JRoy wrote:Monta Ellis have it all


I was hoping and expecting this to be one of the first replies. You did not disappoint. Jroy have it all.
wco81
RealGM
Posts: 27,131
And1: 11,569
Joined: Jul 04, 2013
       

Re: Blow it Up Trade Ideas 

Post#208 » by wco81 » Fri Feb 4, 2022 10:55 pm

So does the trade today make it more or less likely that the Blazers re-sign Simons?

More or less likely that they trade CJ? (that's assuming they have hopes that Keon Johnson develops into a starter level 2-way guard).

More or less likely that they trade Dame? Blazers got rid of a good starter in Powell. They didn't get picks to draft potential starters.
GEE
Starter
Posts: 2,416
And1: 369
Joined: Aug 04, 2006

Re: Blow it Up Trade Ideas 

Post#209 » by GEE » Fri Feb 4, 2022 11:11 pm

MORE,
LESS &
MORE
I HOPE.
User avatar
PDXKnight
RealGM
Posts: 26,292
And1: 3,211
Joined: May 29, 2007
Location: Portland
   

Re: Blow it Up Trade Ideas 

Post#210 » by PDXKnight » Fri Feb 4, 2022 11:11 pm

wco81 wrote:So does the trade today make it more or less likely that the Blazers re-sign Simons?

More or less likely that they trade CJ? (that's assuming they have hopes that Keon Johnson develops into a starter level 2-way guard).

More or less likely that they trade Dame? Blazers got rid of a good starter in Powell. They didn't get picks to draft potential starters.


Man if cronin trades dame the nba will probably ban the trade on account of tampering. I wouldn’t put it past him to do dame for westbrook at the rate he’s going. Do the pelicans have any worse contracts than cj? Maybe we do that too...
User avatar
JasonStern
RealGM
Posts: 12,297
And1: 4,312
Joined: Dec 13, 2008
 

Re: Blow it Up Trade Ideas 

Post#211 » by JasonStern » Fri Feb 4, 2022 11:44 pm

wco81 wrote:So does the trade today make it more or less likely that the Blazers re-sign Simons?


Based on today's trade, it likely depends on if any team has a 2026 2nd round pick to trade. :banghead:


Oden2 wrote:
wco81 wrote:So does the trade today make it more or less likely that the Blazers re-sign Simons?

More or less likely that they trade CJ? (that's assuming they have hopes that Keon Johnson develops into a starter level 2-way guard).

More or less likely that they trade Dame? Blazers got rid of a good starter in Powell. They didn't get picks to draft potential starters.


Man if cronin trades dame the nba will probably ban the trade on account of tampering. I wouldn’t put it past him to do dame for westbrook at the rate he’s going. Do the pelicans have any worse contracts than cj? Maybe we do that too...


I doubt that. But I could honestly see something as ridiculous as a CJ + Nance for Westbrook trade for "cap flexibility". :banghead:
Because love can burn like a cigarette.
And leave you left with nothing.
Leave you left with nothing.
wco81
RealGM
Posts: 27,131
And1: 11,569
Joined: Jul 04, 2013
       

Re: Blow it Up Trade Ideas 

Post#212 » by wco81 » Sat Feb 5, 2022 4:11 am

Whether the Blazers decide to blow it up or not, would the team re-sign Nurkic for next season and beyond?

If not, one would assume they plan to trade Nurkic this week?
User avatar
DusterBuster
RealGM
Posts: 36,631
And1: 22,363
Joined: Jan 31, 2010
   

Re: Blow it Up Trade Ideas 

Post#213 » by DusterBuster » Sat Feb 5, 2022 4:18 am

wco81 wrote:So does the trade today make it more or less likely that the Blazers re-sign Simons?

More or less likely that they trade CJ? (that's assuming they have hopes that Keon Johnson develops into a starter level 2-way guard).

More or less likely that they trade Dame? Blazers got rid of a good starter in Powell. They didn't get picks to draft potential starters.


This seems to be a pretty clear indication that the Blazers intend to resign Simons regardless the cost.

I would say CJ is probably on his way out as well.

As for Dame, who the hell knows. My guess is they intend to keep Dame still unless he demands out (which I’m not discounting as an even higher possibility this summer now).
Get ready to learn Chinese buddy... #YangBang
User avatar
DusterBuster
RealGM
Posts: 36,631
And1: 22,363
Joined: Jan 31, 2010
   

Re: Blow it Up Trade Ideas 

Post#214 » by DusterBuster » Sat Feb 5, 2022 4:19 am

wco81 wrote:Whether the Blazers decide to blow it up or not, would the team re-sign Nurkic for next season and beyond?

If not, one would assume they plan to trade Nurkic this week?


No one seems to have a good read on what the Blazers want to do with Nurkic. He wants to stay as long as Dame stays. But rumors are the team and Billups want a more athletic defender type at C… sooo yeah, who knows.
Get ready to learn Chinese buddy... #YangBang
The Sebastian Express
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 18,488
And1: 11,905
Joined: Dec 10, 2004

Re: Blow it Up Trade Ideas 

Post#215 » by The Sebastian Express » Sat Feb 5, 2022 4:23 am

DusterBuster wrote:
wco81 wrote:Whether the Blazers decide to blow it up or not, would the team re-sign Nurkic for next season and beyond?

If not, one would assume they plan to trade Nurkic this week?


No one seems to have a good read on what the Blazers want to do with Nurkic. He wants to stay as long as Dame stays. But rumors are the team and Billups want a more athletic defender type at C… sooo yeah, who knows.


I really love Jusuf. But I think his hands (as in his ability to catch the ball sometimes in the post) and his finishing will be the reason we move on from him. He was never 100% the guy who dunked it in your face, but ever since his leg injury it feels like he's - still even to this day years later - just not comfortable taking it hard to the hoop as much as he can and wants to flip it up to avoid contact or having to go up and risk coming down awkwardly. which I totally get from a human standpoint, I have to imagine that all was extremely painful and traumatic. But I do think we need to get a little more athletic.
User avatar
JasonStern
RealGM
Posts: 12,297
And1: 4,312
Joined: Dec 13, 2008
 

Re: Blow it Up Trade Ideas 

Post#216 » by JasonStern » Sat Feb 5, 2022 8:34 pm

Zach Collins is back. Put up 10 points, 7 rebounds. That'd be nice to have if we're rebuilding around Simons.

Gary Trent Jr. has been averaging 18ppg this season. That'd be nice to have if we're rebuilding around Simons.

And that's really the frustrating thing. The Blazers don't seem to be going all-in with Dame or building around Simons. Going 41-41 is somehow the goal.
Because love can burn like a cigarette.
And leave you left with nothing.
Leave you left with nothing.
wco81
RealGM
Posts: 27,131
And1: 11,569
Joined: Jul 04, 2013
       

Re: Blow it Up Trade Ideas 

Post#217 » by wco81 » Sat Feb 5, 2022 9:05 pm

Correct me if I'm wrong, most of the people on this board seemed to support the GTR-Norm trade at the time?

And supported extending Powell?
GEE
Starter
Posts: 2,416
And1: 369
Joined: Aug 04, 2006

Re: Blow it Up Trade Ideas 

Post#218 » by GEE » Sat Feb 5, 2022 9:34 pm

For the record, I was pretty openly concerned with the trade when it happened, for the very reason that JS points out: Simons / GTJ / Little / Collins / Nurkic would have been pretty nice to have today. Also, Collins never was the problem with this roster and I will still cheer for him; It's always been the Dame / CJ investment that has really crippled this franchise, made worse by trading for a 6'3 SF to a 5 year/$90 mil deal. Olshey's genius. But again... History.
Norm2953
RealGM
Posts: 16,511
And1: 2,246
Joined: May 17, 2003
Location: Oregon

Re: Blow it Up Trade Ideas 

Post#219 » by Norm2953 » Sat Feb 5, 2022 9:57 pm

I hated the Powell trade for I would have paid GTJ for it does not take a rocket scientist to see Norm
was never going to be the answer at SF in a conference with a lot of big front courts. Let's see how long
Zach will be back before he goes down again but he was Portland's attempt to replace LA which failed
Goldbum
Analyst
Posts: 3,302
And1: 651
Joined: Jul 12, 2001
Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
     

Re: Blow it Up Trade Ideas 

Post#220 » by Goldbum » Sat Feb 5, 2022 10:19 pm

How about CJ plus Zeller
4
KP?
With Dallas wanting CJ this could be a nice return and relocation of funds from the guards to the front court.
From Portland to Reno to Vegas to LA to SLC and on to HotLanta. Winning at life. Too Blessed to be Stressed

Return to Portland Trail Blazers