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Re: 2025 Blazer Draft Prospects 

Post#201 » by tester551 » Tue Feb 25, 2025 12:39 am

Walton1one wrote:Here is one on Johni Broome:

https://www.noceilingsnba.com/p/who-is-johni-broome-the-prospect?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=536361&post_id=157419101&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=1f5gb9&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email

But sometimes…guys are weird. Johni Broome is one of those guys. Auburn’s graduate big man is arguably the best player in all of college basketball. There is no doubt that he is an exceptionally talented and productive player. But his production, paired with his age and body type, is definitely a little funky. Broome stands 6’9” with a 7’0” wingspan, and he’s listed at 240 pounds. He’s a little bit stubby for an NBA center, and he’s not super bouncy. But for a four, he’s not a lights-out shooter, nor is he laterally explosive. He doesn’t fit neatly into one box, nor does an easy player comp come to mind. Yet, when going across the statistical board, his BPM, rebound rates, assist numbers, and incredible shot-blocking resume make him appear like a surefire long-term NBA player.


Between this season and last, Broome has made 33.1% of his threes on 5.2 attempts per 100 possessions.

On paper, that may not sound like anything to write home about. But for a big man prospect, he grades out really well in terms of three-point shooting volume and pretty well in terms of efficiency. In particular, Broome thrives when left alone. During these past two years, he’s made 40.9% of his unguarded catch-and-shoot threes, per Synergy. Far more often than not, defenses end up closing out on Broome. This year, 63.3% of his catch-and-shoot triples have been classified as “guarded” attempts. Given his overall percentage, Broome will need to get better at shooting over contests in order to maximize his value.


But for Broome, being good enough at making the open ones may be all he needs in order to find a place in a rotation, given the well-rounded nature of his skill set. Lastly, I think that it’s worth noting that we’ve only really seen him take threes for the past two seasons. If his career efficiency was what it is and he’d always been shooting, I’d be more concerned. Instead, what we’ve seen is a steady upward trajectory in terms of both shot confidence and difficulty.

Broome is an efficient dive man who shoots 70.6% on his twos as a roller. He’s also comfortable in the dunker spot and acting as a cutter, making 68.8% of his shots on those play types, per Synergy. What makes Broome special, though, is that he is an absolute force on the offensive glass.

His 15.2 ORB% is truly an elite figure. It’s even better when you consider the fact that he often shares the floor with another great offensive rebounder in Dylan Cardwell. For context, Broome’s ORB% tops the marks that glass cleaners like Jalen Duren, Walker Kessler, and Daniel Gafford posted during their pre-draft seasons. Per Synergy, putbacks are Broome’s second most common play type this season. His tenaciousness, feel, and timing enable him to consistently generate second-chance opportunities for his team and easy looks for himself.


For a team that is not a well shooting team (like POR) another glass cleaner would not be a bad thing

When scouting, I always ask myself about the scalability of a prospect’s strength. Given Broome’s lack of traditional big man size, I wondered about how this might translate to the next level. But we’ve seen it work! Above, you’ll see Nets big man Day’Ron Sharpe and Kevon Looney feasting on the offensive glass. These two aren’t always the biggest dudes on the floor. But similar to Broome, their intellect and want-to enable them to punch above their weight on the offensive glass. These two have consistently provided value to their teams due in large part to their ability to add efficient, low-maintenance scoring possessions to the stat sheet.


His biggest room for growth from a scoring standpoint comes from tying those two skills together. Right now, he’s sort of an “either/or” proposition. He’s not much of a threat in the gray area between the two when he has to go from the perimeter to the basket. His driving game has a few issues. The first is that when he’s faced up, he has a lumbering first step. He’s not going to be dusting his fellow NBA big men. Broome’s slow downhill speed doesn’t allow him to slam the door shut on defenders who close out hard on him. Additionally, it gives defenses ample time to recover, and there’s not much polish to his handle. He doesn’t have counters or go-to moves to beat the help that comes his way. Instead, he often settles for difficult looks with a deeper takeoff point than desirable. If Broome can maximize his speed off the line and add in a few dribble moves to get cleaner angles at the rim, it would really round out his scoring arsenal in a meaningful way.


Johni Broome is a phenomenal playmaking prospect for a big man—like, really phenomenal in a way that we’ve yet to truly reckon with. There were always shades of upside in this department....He’s one of the highest usage players his size in the country, ranking fourth overall among players 6’9” and above per BartTorvik, with a seismic 30.8 USG%. Along with that, he’s posting an outstanding 23.5 AST% and a microscopic 7.3 TOV%....His combination of floor mapping, vision, and poise allow him to make deliveries that few his size can while also making him a shockingly low-mistake player.


Most 6’9” big men without ideal length and athleticism tend to be more skill-oriented. These “tweeners” tend to get into muddy waters when it comes to the defensive side of the ball. And to be fair, Broome does have some shortcomings here. His lack of bounce can hinder him as a rim protector. A few players, such as Collin Murray-Boyles, have managed to overpower him en route to clean looks at the basket. Broome’s lateral agility is solid, but he doesn’t have great recovery tools when he’s beaten. Still, in spite of all of this, Broome has been a tremendously impactful defender for Auburn over the past few years.


Broome has a 9.3 BLK% on the year, an excellent number for a big man prospect. Again, I must also remind you that he’s posting that figure while spending a significant amount of time at the four-spot. In drop coverage, Broome uses his hands and feet well to dictate angles that make it difficult for the offense to create advantages. He thrives as a shot blocker deep when teams do manage to get deep in the paint. Broome uses his chest well to stay vertical, and he has the outstanding hand-eye coordination needed to pin-point blocks while avoiding foul troubles (only 3.9 fouls per 100 possessions!). Off the ball, his rim rotation instincts are strong, enabling him to get into position better than most of his peers. Even when he doesn’t nab a block, his ability to stay big and play physically hampers his opponents and their efforts to get clean looks inside. Per Synergy, opponents are shooting a brutal 37.0% at the rim in the halfcourt against Broome. He’s a serious glass eater on this side of the ball, too, posting a 26.8 DRB% on the year.


He’s a solid shooter for a big man, but not an elite one. He thrives on the offensive glass, but he’s a little bit undersized. He’s a great shot blocker, but he’s not toolsy. He is undoubtedly a stellar, high-feel playmaker....Defensively, his blend of timing and toughness has proven itself again and again. I came to the conclusion that while Johni Broome can’t be put neatly into one box, his exceptional production and the NBA functionality of his key traits cannot be ignored. So, who is Johni Broome? Johni Broome is a damn good basketball player, and those guys tend to stick around the NBA for a long time. He’s a Top 20 prospect.

I REALLY like Broome as a late 1st / early 2nd pickup.
I think he's going to have a LONG NBA career.
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Re: 2025 Blazer Draft Prospects 

Post#202 » by Walton1one » Tue Feb 25, 2025 8:08 pm

No Ceilings on Kon Kneuppel

https://www.noceilingsnba.com/p/magic-8-ballers-lessons-at-kons-academy?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=536361&post_id=157409747&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=1f5gb9&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email

The main appeal for Knueppel, who measures around 6’7” and 215 pounds, is his versatile wing offense. He’s a knockdown shooter who can do it from a standstill or in motion. He has a high release point and a quick release and rarely gets off balance, even when off-center. Add that to some bursty driving, solid finishing, and burgeoning passing,


Knueppel is a true wing-sized player at 6’7” with a solid wingspan. He bolsters his height with a quick release, clean mechanics, and good footwork. Almost all of Knueppel’s jumpers are the same, with smooth, continuous motion in his jump shots no matter the angle or situation.

That’s a strong base to build from, and even though there are some areas where Knueppel hasn’t shot the cover off the ball this year, it doesn’t dissuade me from seeing him as an elite shooter. As a catch-and-shoot spacer this season, he’s shooting in that capacity as, per Synergy, Knueppel has canned 44.8% of his spot-up 67 threes.


Inside his spot-up attempts, I noticed a vital wrinkle in Knueppel’s shooting profile. He’s adept at the art of the relocation three, where he moves without the ball in lockstep with the driver to find a pocket of space in the defense. It isn’t classified as its play on Synergy, but it is a separate skill that impressed me with Knueppel as a shooter. The NBA game necessitates smart fades and sags into open spaces for shooters, and Knueppel can already do that at a high level.


The first place where Knueppel is (relatively) struggling is in off-screen three-pointers. These plays require quickness and poise at a breakneck speed, separating solid shooters from true shooting specialists. Knueppel has only shot 9/30, or 30.0%, on these threes this year, but in his last season for Phenom University, albeit on a smaller sample size, he hit 5/12.

When watching Knueppel’s attempts, I’m more willing to attribute his slightly subpar percentage to a loud, small sample than a deficiency in his skillset. All of his attempts look good and repeatable, which makes me bullish that it's a matter of time before he starts draining them consistently.


Where I’m more in a debate is how Knueppel will end up as an off-the-dribble shooter. It’s not a major issue, as not every role he’ll have at the next level will ask him to shoot these shots frequently, but it is a potential cap to Knueppel’s ceiling. There’s nothing wrong with being a catch-and-shooter, but for Knueppel to be anything more than that in the NBA, he’ll need to be a threat off the dribble.


Knueppel’s feel for the game stands out on fast breaks. It’s a prerequisite for NBA players to take full advantage of opportunities on the break, which aligns with Knueppel as a player. Per Synergy, he has a “Very Good” rating in transition, carried by his 68.8% on two-pointers and 44.0% on threes. He’s a crafty space finder and knows when to probe versus when to fade for an open bomb.


While he has a solid first step and manipulative handle, Knueppel lacks the vertical pop or length he would need to be a great finisher. That doesn’t mean he doesn’t put pressure on the rim; quite the contrary. Instead, it means that while there are some hyperproductive drives for Knueppel, he has a steeper climb and thinner margin for error than other wings his size.


Knueppel's most effective way to pressure the rim is when attacking off of the catch. His deep shot is such an effective threat that a pump fake will get some defenders off their feet. Then, it’s an easy path for a controlled driver like Knueppel. When that doesn’t work, Knueppel deploys a steady stutter-rip move to go in either direction toward the rim. He’s not a creative finisher once he gets to the basket, but his creativity is on display at the point of attack, where he has a handful of counters and fakes to free himself.


The issue for Knueppel is what he does once he gets to the rim. In his last season with Phenom University, Knueppel shot just 50.0% at the rim. This year at Duke is similar, as he’s shooting 54.4% on lay-up attempts. I will laud Knueppel for uncorking some halfcourt dunk attempts, but like some of his missed lay-ins, he runs into the problem that his arms are a bit too short, and his leaping is a bit too limited to keep his shot from getting frequently swatted.


On the one hand, improved spacing should get Knueppel some easier looks in the NBA. On the other hand, recovery defenders are even more athletic and ferocious at that level. I’m not convinced that Knueppel can do enough with the ball in his hands as a driver or shooter just yet to put real pressure on a defense—which is a shame, as he’s a pretty solid passer to complement his shooting.


I’m more intrigued by what Knueppel does out of the pick-and-roll. While his finishing leaves something to be desired, his passing is so good that teams can’t ignore him as a creator of these actions. That opens up kick-outs, skips, drop-offs, and dump-offs to all his Blue Devil teammates, contributing to his “Excellent” rating as a pick-and-roll ball-handler on Synergy when his passing numbers are considered.


At a bare minimum, he grades out as a knockdown shooter off the catch, a smart player who occasionally makes some plays at the rim, and a heady passer who you can rely on to keep plays alive. That’s the profile of a good wing role player at the NBA level, a lucrative role always in demand.


Kon Knueppel is a below-average defender by my evaluation.


He has an innate sense of where to be and when, which helps him compensate for his average athletic profile on the wing. He isn’t perfect as an off-ball defender, but it helps him always make his rotations and stay fundamental on his closeouts.


The weakest part of Knueppel’s off-ball defense is his ability to recover and navigate screens. He’s not a slippery horizontal athlete, which teams have already noticed, and he often gets hung up on screens away from the play. That puts Duke’s entire team into the rotation, although it isn’t due to a lack of effort from Knueppel when he’s trying to get back to a shooter or work his way through a pick.


Sounding like a Corey Kispert\Kyle Korver type player to me, those have value, but to POR? Not so sure

The fact that he has such a hard time working through screens is concerning. I can’t quite tell if it’s a purely physical limitation on his game or if it speaks to a singular hole in his in-game awareness, but it’s a problem nonetheless. Smart teams like the Warriors, Celtics, and Cavaliers, to name a few, would frazzle Knueppel with their off-ball actions, and it’s the clearest reason that Knueppel might not be able to play many postseason minutes—if any at all.


Yeesh, BTW this is a similar weakness to Simons, that if he ever gets to the playoffs, will be exploited as well. Much more athletic than Kneuppel, of course, but gets hung up on screens, targeted by opposing offenses and bullied in 1v1 possessions. Simons rank as one of the worst defenders throughout his career is not a fluke, it is feature

The outlook for Kon Knueppel is an oxymoron in its simplicity and complexity. If Knueppel could fight through screens better, he’d be good enough to survive on defense. If he were a better vertical or horizontal athlete, he’d also have the chops to hack it. If his steals percentage was just a bit higher, he could reasonably generate enough turnovers to compensate for his faults.

Since he can’t do that yet, Knueppel will be more of a role player than an assured starter in the NBA. It’s contingent on his finishing and, more importantly, his defense to carve out a role on a winning team in this manner. Given how well he’s adjusted to a new role at Duke, I’m bullish that Knueppel can become a league-average defender if he digs in and commits, but that’ll be a surprise more than the expected outcome if or when it happens.


I like McNeeley better than Kneuppel, has the size, little better at creating, good connective player (like Kneuppel). Kneuppel could be fine in POR, his shooting prowess would be welcome, but if Mcneeley was there, I would go that route. They mention later that Kneuppel flourishes somewhat because of Flagg's gravity, that would not be the case in POR because they do not have such a player.

Knueppel has shown he’s just good enough on defense and more than good enough on offense to be a high-level role-playing wing.

Those wing players are a scarce and sacred commodity in the NBA because they are malleable in building winning lineups. Despite him likely never getting to play in such an idealized context again, Knueppel bolstering this Duke roster is only a positive for him. Thus, while he had to sacrifice some of his own game to showcase for scouts, he showed instead that winning matters to him most, and he’s willing and able to learn and adjust his game to make that dream a reality.


I’m trying not to make the same mistake twice. Although he lacks some of the athleticism I crave in a wing, there’s simply too much good stuff for him to be just a shooter in his position.

He’ll likely start in that role, as NBA squads can never get enough shooters on the floor. If he only ever develops as a pure floor spacer, Knueppel will likely play a fruitful NBA career. Look at what players of similar ilk like Sam Hauser, Isaiah Joe, or Corey Kispert are getting paid on their second contracts. Those numbers look reasonable for Knueppel if he shoots the ball like he’s shown he can.

Suppose Knueppel can burnish a few of the weak points in his game; in that scenario, his ceiling and ability to impact winning rises further. A slightly better defensive Knueppel is an NBA starter. A Knueppel who can finish at the rim reliably deserves tertiary creation responsibilities. A version that does both might even demand some sleeper star consideration and could factor in as the third or fourth-best player on a contending team.

All of that is still up in the air, but what isn’t is Kon Knueppel’s talent and ability to mold his game to help his team win. For me, the biggest lesson from Knueppel’s game is that he’s primed to fit into any role that a team could feasibly want him to at the next level. That’s incredibly important and explains why I'll likely learn my lesson by the end of the cycle and comfortably slot Knueppl into the top half of my first round prospects on my draft board.
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Re: 2025 Blazer Draft Prospects 

Post#203 » by Walton1one » Wed Feb 26, 2025 6:22 pm

New mock from Bleacher Report

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/25158872-2025-nba-mock-draft-full-2-round-predictions-and-pro-comparisons

has POR @ #9 (for now), I think they are now #10 - Selecting Kon Kneuppel

Kon Knueppel's shotmaking has been easy to buy, based on his balance and accuracy in every shooting situations. Teams will eye him for a complementary role that calls for scoring out of spot-ups and off movement. But he can also get downhill in ball-screen situations.

Teams may have a tough time buying a shot-creator, which limits possibilities when it comes to upside. He figures to wind up with a team that's looking to a fill a need or hole with shooting, high-IQ play and instant results.


Pro Comp: Kevin Huerter, not exactly inspiring

Other interesting picks:

TOR @ #5 - Khaman Maluach - seeing this more and more and makes some sense. A frontline of Ingram, Barnes, Maluach\Poetl would be interesting

PHi @ #6 - Tre Johnson
BRK @ #7 - Kasparas jakucionis
CHI @ #8 - Asa Newell

that hurts, (3) players who could be welcome additions all taken right before POR picks

SA @ #10 - Jase Richardson, he has been climbing, would be a surprise if he does not go in the lottery

Pro comparison: Cason Wallace

There is debate over what a best-case outcome looks like for Jase Richardson, who's 6'3" and hadn't demonstrated much playmaking through January.

And then he was inserted into the starting lineup in February and immediately put up 29 points against Oregon. He's continued to score efficiently by picking the right spots to attack with his dribble and pull-up.

It's also becoming more evident that his role can mask some self-creation. Regardless, the idea of a valuable off-ball scorer and secondary ball-handler is gaining steam behind his shooting efficiency, finishing craft and ball-screen decision-making.

Making 44.0 percent of his spot-up threes, 48.8 percent of his dribble jumpers and 73.5 percent of his layups, with 46 assists to 21 turnovers, accurate shotmaking and feel for the game could have teams valuing fit over upside.


SA @ #11 - Liam McNeeley - Would rather see POR go McNeeley over Kneuppel, better fits their size\athetic profile

Pro Comparisons: Keegan Murray

The ability to put up 37 points without advanced handles or pull-up shooting highlights Liam McNeeley's elite off-ball scoring skills and instincts. Advanced shooting skill had been on display years before he arrived at Connecticut. He's ultra efficient in transition getting open threes and finishes. He uses screens to free up from behind the arc and handoffs to get downhill.

But he's also been an effective pick-and-roll ball-handler, showing unteachable feel for timing, shielding defenders and converting after contact from a drive into rim protection.

Unless a team is too unsure about his defensive projection, McNeeley should look like an easy fit for everybody.


MIA @ #14 - Jeremiah Fears, NBA comparison to scoot, don't think we need (2) of them

Pro Comparison: Jaden Ivey, Scoot Henderson

Scouts buy the way Jeremiah Fears can create with tight handles, change of speed and blow-by burst. And there is enough evidence of spot-up threes, mid-range pull-ups, crafty lay-ins and setup passer to believe an 18-year-old will improve and become a more consistent shotmaker and sharper playmaker.

With 27 points and 10 assists in a win over Mississippi State, he delivered his most complete effort of shotmaking, rim pressure and passing reads.

Still, erratic shooting, turnovers and struggles scoring in traffic have led to his draft stock cooling off. Though he's been handed a hefty workload, and impressive play early raised the bar, it's become evident that Fears' range, decision-making and thin frame point to a lengthier NBA-ready timetable, particularly for a primary ball-handler.


OKC @ #15 - Noa Essengue, comp is Jabari Walker?

Pro Comparison: Jabari Walker, Precious Achiuwa

The narrative around Noa Essengue has been the same all year, with the 18-year-old consistently finding ways to earn easy baskets and trips to the line by running the floor, crashing the glass, attacking closeouts, timing cuts and making a three-pointer every other game.

Though it seems unlikely he'll ever be a creator or prolific shotmaker, he gets the most out of every inch of size and length.

Plenty of room to develop his skills may hint at upside, but NBA teams will be banking on the 6'9" forward to make plays from off the ball without needing featured touches.


UTA @ #17 - Nolan Traore - Traore was a tp 5 pick early in the cycle, but since he has struggled playing in Euroleague, where players average 4-5 years older than he is, he has dropped, starting to move back up boards. I think he could end up being a steal

Pro Comparisons: Lonzo Ball

Nolan Traore has been finding more ways to score lately, mostly by recognizing space and picking the right time to hit turbo and burst through driving lanes.

Scouts still have questions about his shooting and touch, with Traore at 28.7 percent on threes, 70.7 percent on free-throws and 28.6 percent on floaters.

But he has good command with his handle to capitalize when the defense gives something up. And he's been relatively efficient finishing around the basket, despite lacking strength or explosion.

His signature passing IQ remains the main draw, while front offices will continue debating the translatability of his rim pressure, the chances his perimeter shotmaking improving, and if it doesn't, what Traore's outcome looks like.


DAl @ #18 - Egor Demin. I have a sneaking suspicion, that should POR keep their pick, that they could take a flyer on Demin. he totally fits their profile. Long, athletic, has shooting concerns, which this POR front office does not seem to care about (meaning, they think they can work with him and get him to league average or better).

Pro Comparisons: Josh Giddey

Poor shooting and struggles making contested shots have kept Egor Demin from being able to revive the early excitement. The shaky shotmaking and careless turnovers are becoming worrisome for an on-ball heavy player.

Still, there will be first-round interest in a 6'9" ball-handler and playmaker. Teams are going to see translatability and value with his passing and setup ability. He'll go earlier if a team thinks his shotmaking will be better than the numbers suggest.


Krysten Peek was on a podcast (@ 3:56) a few weeks ago talking about Demin, and brought up some good points about how teams would not be as concerned with the shooting as they are enamored by his upside, versatility, length & youth, added to his playmaking\court vision brought up other players who have similar or worse shooting concerns (Ausar Thompson, Trey Murphy. LaMelo Ball in AUS) and that shooting is low on the totem pole (I would disagree).

https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=5d466d0b992978df&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS1029US1029&udm=7&q=egor+demin+scouting+report&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=2ahUKEwjt85P89eGLAxVxMzQIHfVvGi8Q8ccDegQIDxAH&biw=1740&bih=811&dpr=1.1#fpstate=ive&ip=1&vld=cid:82a4f256,vid:OeTUR8wivMc,st:0

Strengths

Elite Playmaking: Demin is one of the best live-dribble passers in this projected draft class, showing exceptional court vision and decision-making.

Scoring Versatility: Capable of scoring from deep, mid-range, and around the rim with a smooth touch and consistent footwork.

High Basketball IQ: Reads defenses at a high level, making quick decisions to exploit mismatches or create opportunities for teammates.

PnR Mastery: Thrives in pick-and-roll situations, combining tight handles and body control to keep defenders off balance.

Size for Position: At 6'9", Demin uses his height and length effectively to shoot over defenders and protect the ball against quicker players.


Concerns

Defensive Translatability: His lack of athleticism and unclear defensive position raise questions about his defensive effectiveness at the NBA level.

Free-Throw Shooting: Early-season struggles at the free-throw line suggest that Demin needs to improve his efficiency from the stripe.

Rebounding Effort: Despite his size, Demin is not an aggressive rebounder, which limits his versatility.

Athleticism Ceiling: Without elite quickness or explosiveness, he may struggle against NBA-level athletes on both ends of the floor.



Questions

Can Demin maintain his consistent jump shooting throughout the season?

Will his free-throw percentage improve with more volume?

Can he add strength to increase his positional versatility on defense?

Will his primary initiator role translate to the NBA, or will he be better suited as a secondary playmaker?


OKC @ #20 - Will Riley
BRK @ #21 - Carter Bryant
IND @ #22 - Rasheer Fleming
ATL @ #24 - Noah Penda
WAS @ #25 - Hugo Gonzalez

Some interesting talent later in the 1st round (plus big men as well), which is why I would like to see POR get a 2nd 1st round pick, and there should be some teams (BRK, ORL, ATL, OKC) who could be looking to trade a pick
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Re: 2025 Blazer Draft Prospects 

Post#204 » by BlazersBroncos » Wed Feb 26, 2025 8:41 pm

Carter Bryant is going to be, at minimum, an excellent swing F who can 3 and D - but his athletic profile gives him some unique upside.

Think he could end up Top 15 when all is said and done.
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Re: 2025 Blazer Draft Prospects 

Post#205 » by Walton1one » Wed Feb 26, 2025 11:50 pm

ESPN+ had some scout's takes on a couple of the players in the draft

EGOR DEMIN
Scout's take: "Giddey is a good comp -- they're both tall nontraditional point guards, Egor has more bounce and can turn the corner a little bit more. ... The shooting has been an issue for Egor, it doesn't look broken, but he misses a ton. Last year, Giddey was unplayable in the playoffs [with Oklahoma City]. If you're worried about that, do you want him as a primary handler? Right now he needs a ball screen. If he doesn't find the shot, it could be a real problem in terms of how you play him. Does that scare some teams?"


TRE JOHNSON
Scout's take: "It's tough -- if you let me shoot whatever I wanted, I'd probably shoot some 19-footers. And I'm underwhelmed by what [Texas] is able to generate on offense. But his [shot selection] is a concern, and he doesn't have an ancillary skill set. Is he good enough to warrant high usage, and if no, then what? The fact he plays defense gives him more of a runway."


LIAM MCNEELEY
Scout's take: "There's definitely something about him, he makes shots, he finds a way to score. They were so loaded the last two years. I wonder if this [huge role] is going to wear him down by the time they get to the tournament. But he's accepted the challenge and is growing with more responsibility. I also like him on the glass, he's a tough kid, has some s--- to him, a little bit edgy, which you kind of need."


KON KNEUPPEL
Scout's take: "He's good, but I see him as a role player in the NBA. I was a little worried until he started to make shots. [Kon] is tough, he competes, not a vertical athlete. I just feel like, what's he elite at? Is he a jack-of-all-trades, master of none? Those type of guys tend to wind up in more of a role. But even as kind of a thicker guy, if he can make shots, he can be your fifth starter."


KASPARAS JAKUCIONIS
Scout's take: "Is he going to be able to separate? Can you get into the paint by yourself -- it matters a lot more at our level. Right now it's a lot of ball screens. He does a good job there, and he can shoot it, so he'll have more of a chance but the athletic question is the real one."


VJ EDGECOMBE
Scout's take: "I see a lot more confidence when he has the ball now. ... Feel like the shot looks better, a bit more belief that it can go in from the perimeter. The athleticism has always been there, but now he's driving and making strong finishes. I've always liked his work ethic and felt like he'd figure it out, and he's more advanced than I thought he'd be this year. He has definitely helped his stock."


ACE BAILEY
Scout's take: "His best years are down the road as he gets stronger. I look at how guys like Paul George and Kevin Durant's bodies changed from college. He does need to take better shots, but part of it is they're so reliant on him and Harper. I do wonder if he was at, say, Duke, are we talking differently about Ace if he's in a winning context?"


JEREMIAH FEARS
Scout's take: "Early on, I didn't like his shot selection. I wasn't a big fan, but then he had the huge game against Michigan, he hit the game winner and you saw the talent. I don't know if his style of play translates to every team. It'll depend on fit ... As good as the SEC is, the NBA game is a lot quicker."


ASA NEWELL
Scout's take: "I feel like the shot will get better -- it doesn't look bad. For now he's going to have to be a rim-roller, lob threat. There's something a little passive about him that worries me. Defensively, maybe he could switch, but what position is he defending? He's a bit small for the 5. Is he quick enough to slide out on a mobile 4? It might be matchup-based, which isn't ideal -- you hope you can play a guy all the time, not just based on your opponent. I feel like he'll find a way to fit in somewhere, he just might not be a star."


CARTER BRYANT
Scout's take: "The body, his length, he projects as a 3-and-D type. I'd love for him to add more strength. There are some times where maybe he's overthinking a bit when he catches the ball. ... A guy that young who can add more to his game, I think every team can use a guy like that. Think about what [the Phoenix Suns'] Royce O'Neale has been, guarding multiple positions and making 3s. I wonder sometimes if his misses are mental, the shot looks good but there's a split-second of hesitancy sometimes. He's young and will have a chance to keep growing there. He can rise up in the process for sure."


WILL RILEY
Scout's take: "The shooting looks nice. He can play off one or two dribbles, doesn't need the ball, makes good reads. I've seen glimpses of side pick-and-roll ability. On defense, he competes. It's just the strength. ... He'll never be a super strong, muscular guy. Based off the eye test, you worry about that, but you see that he can play."


DERIK QUEEN
Scout's take: "Defensively, even when he's giving effort, he has to play in a drop. He's not quick-footed. He can get up and down end to end, but in pick-and-roll situations, it'll be hard to switch. If he feels like he doesn't want to play defense that day, what do you do with him? Some games, he's mailed it in. But you see the passing, or he'll do something with the ball, and you're like, 'Wow.' ... He's a small-ball 5 -- do you use him on offense like Draymond [Green], just without the defense?"


KHAMAN MALUACH
Scout's take: "I just want to see him keep being good at what we project him to be. For his role as a non-shooting big, rim protector and rebounder, he just has to be able to play out of pick-and-roll, catch lobs, play in the dunker spot. Shooting probably will never be a threat. ... If someone can tap into the upside, credit to them. Maybe he gets to where he can play in dribble handoffs, setting screens, that's where he can be a great asset."
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Post#206 » by BlazersBroncos » Thu Feb 27, 2025 12:34 am

I’m probably wrong but does Asa remind anyone else of Noah Vonleh? Tweener who is sort of a master-of-none type?
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Post#207 » by Walton1one » Fri Feb 28, 2025 12:00 am

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RISERS

Jase Richardson (2)

Jase Richardson might not have been the biggest riser regarding slots on my draft board, but he elevated himself into a different tier over his past month of play...comfortably as a first-round draft prospect and one who, despite his youth, could contribute in a specific role to an NBA team sooner than later.

He’s a disruptive two-way guard with feel, projectable shooting, and NBA bloodlines. There are understandable concerns about him being a bit undersized (6’3”) as an ancillary guard, but there appears to be more to tap into as a lead guard that NBA teams should explore.



Yaxel Lendeborg

Before the year, I had heard some buzz and didn’t see the optimism. Now, as one of four players with a conference BPM of 12.5. The others are Ryan Kalkbrenner, Johni Broome, and Cooper Flagg—which is an elite group. Yaxel has been a dynamic playmaker all year, he rebounds well, and he has taken a step forward defensively while maintaining his shooting upside. There’s a real chance Yaxel could be the steal of the Draft.


Rasheer Fleming
His incredible defensive flexibility is intriguing enough on its own, and when paired with his excellent three-point shooting, the offensive baseline is easy to see...If he continues to excel on both ends of the floor, he might hear his name called in the lottery on the first night of the 2025 NBA Draft.


Will Riley

It’s been far more than “just” shooting as he continues to compete on defense, has improved as a rebounder, and continues to grow as a passer. He’s still not a guarantee to declare this year, but he’s done wonders for his stock in my eyes.


Maxime Raynaud
With the combination of productivity, size, and outside shooting ability, you can’t help but wonder how much better his game will look on the next level with better talent around him. He’s been a beast on the boards for a Stanford team that needs it, averaging 11.2 rebounds per game, and has a total rebounding percentage of 19.6% and a beastly 30.6% on defensive rebounds. If you’re playing Stanford and you miss a shot, you’re pretty much not going to see an offensive rebound. For a seven-footer, the touch that he has as a shooter is very good, and it’s going to be really exciting to see how a smart NBA coach uses his versatility on the offensive end of the floor. He’s only shooting 32.9% from three, but he’s taking the most per game of his career at 5.4 attempts per game, and his form passes the eye test.


Carter Bryant

I’m still not 100% on if he’ll declare, but his uptick in playing time and the production he’s shown has been enough to make me feel confident that he is in the discussion as a Top 20 prospect in this class. Strong 6’8” wings with length and legit two-way ability don’t grow on trees.


FALLERS

Miles Byrd (2)

Miles Byrd was a Top 20-ish prospect for me, but I currently consider him more of a mid-to-late second round selection because of his significant drop in 3-point shooting throughout the season. Byrd came out shooting the ball well-showing real progression on a critical swing skill on top of more volume. Now, he’s shooting 31.7% from deep on 5.9 3PA. I still buy his valuable defensive playmaking production and instincts on a rangy 6’7” frame, but Byrd must make a sustained leap as a shooter to solidify himself as a consensus Top 60 prospect.


The defensive playmaking at the college level has been cool and all, but his frame is a ways away from defending wings on a nightly basis at the next level and his offensive efficiency is in the toilet. 38/32 shooting splits just do not scream NBA-ready. As far as I’m concerned, he isn’t even the most interesting prospect on his own team.


Alex Karaban

The team defense has been solid, but his lack of athleticism combined with his shot disappearing has been a major struggle. It’s really concerning how much his scoring efficiency has dropped off. He has risen up the opposing team’s scouting reports since last year, but he’s still an older college player who shouldn’t be having this much trouble. An eFG% of 52.5, a three-point percentage of 34, and an eFG% of 40.8 against top-50 competition is shockingly bad.


Egor Demin

I just haven’t seen enough that makes me confident in any one trait beyond his passing + size to help him win defensively. I think his archetype can only be maximized on very few teams, and those teams are playoff teams that are probably out of his range.


Kanon Catchings

I’m a very big fan of Catchings for the future, but I just don’t think he’s ready for the jump just yet. Catchings still has a long way to go when it comes to the game coming around on a consistent level. After getting to see him in person, I think the frame is definitely at least a year away. Catchings is extremely skilled and has a great foundation with his size and fluidity. I think another year would do wonders for his development.


Which prospect on a hot streak stood out to you? Is it real, or is it a mirage?

Kon Kneuppel (2)

Kon Knueppel earned my respect this month not by improving on his already-great scoring but by flashing the other elements of his game while Duke navigated ACC play. Shooting 42.8% from deep on 4.0 attempts per game may be the most important thing that Knueppel does for the Blue Devils, but his passing and swiping skills have also shown a sustainable bump. Knueppel’s assist numbers are more consistent this month than last, representing his comfort in handling the ball within Duke’s offense. He’s also averaging over a steal a game, showing more commitment to reading the passing lanes. While the scoring is easy to count on, it’s a big boon for Duke to also be able to watch Knueppel’s game round out at the perfect time.


The shooting uptick and exceptional playmaking during this recent run are clearly the drivers of his stock going forward, but he’s looked slightly better defensively as well during this stretch–not to the point where I expect him to reach even average defensively any time soon, but the effort on that end goes a long way when paired with his size.


Derik Queen

But right now, Queen is having one of his best stretches of the year, and the timing couldn’t be better. In his last five games, Queen is averaging 19.4 points, 12.8 rebounds, and 2.4 assists per game while shooting 61.5% from the field. It’s obviously interesting, given the skills and production that Queen has put on display throughout his freshman campaign. The consistency has been the last piece of the puzzle that has needed to come around consistently.


Isaiah Evans (2)

On the season he’s playing 13.3 mpg and shooting 45.8% on 4.0 threes per game. Not per 40 or 100: in those 13 actual minutes. He’s getting up over 18 3PA/100 on a 3PAr of 82.8. He’s got a role, and he’s filling it to a T. I love how competitive he is, and although I don’t expect he’d maintain that kind of three-point volume and efficiency with more minutes, I am very confident that he is a real deal shot maker.


There is an infectious joy that he plays with and brings to Duke on top of his lethal shooting, microwave scoring, NBA positional size, and defensive tools. When he’s given the opportunity to play significant minutes, he usually produces and we see why the Top 10 preseason buzz was legit. If his minutes continue to trend in the right direction down the stretch, expect his name to continue to rise.


Khaman Maluach

I want to acknowledge that Khaman Maluach looks way more comfortable now than he did early on in the season. I think this applies to the whole Duke roster, but Maluach, especially, looks like he’s found his groove and looks very comfortable in his role. Playing off of Cooper Flagg, rolling to the rim as a vertical threat, and offering a ton inside as a defender and rebounder, Maluach is blossoming into his game. Maluach looks like a bonafide lottery pick in the upcoming draft with a highly translatable skill set, and the upside is that he will one day incorporate the outside shot into his game as well. The stat lines may not look gaudy now, but I fully expect him to be a huge part of Duke making some noise in the tournament.



Which prospect are you being patient with this month?

Hunter Sallis

It hasn't been his best showing after coming into the season more bullish on Hunter Sallis. Most of his struggles can be attributed to his three-point percentage falling off a cliff from last year’s aberration. Still, Sallis has only marginally improved as a driver, passer, and defender while playing a high-usage role.


Jeremiah Fears (4)

he’s been pretty rough recently, but he’s also talented enough that it’ll take a lot more than that to really derail his outlook. His handle is special, his scoring gifts are apparent, and he’s shown plenty of passing flashes as well. It’s been a bad couple of months for him in terms of the ball going into the basket, but the underlying skill set is strong enough that Fears’s stock probably won’t slide all that much.


Despite some disappointing numbers, I thought the film was better than expected with Fears. It seemed as if it was only a matter of time before Fears had himself a bit of a “bounce-back” game. That’s just what we got this past weekend when Fears posted a 27-point, 10-assist performance against Mississippi State while going 11-of-14 from the free-throw line. There’s still an opportunity for Fears to end the year strong


Liam McNeeley

Mcneeley has had a very strong season and may be slightly flying under the radar. He’s averaging 15.3 points, 6.7 rebounds, and 2.4 assists on shooting splits of 40.7/34.3/86.1. The efficiency isn’t as high as some thought it would be, but when you turn on the tape you can see that he’s a shooter, and those numbers will only go up moving forward. When NBA teams bring him in for workouts, there will be much to love about his game, frame, and IQ, making him highly desirable to lottery teams.


Egor Demin

I am staying patient with Egor Demin. I know the efficiency is what it is; I know the struggles against Big 12 comp, but I watch the kid play, and he does stuff as a playmaker that makes me say “wow” like freaking Owen Wilson just about every game. And despite the three-point shots not going in, I love that he is still confident enough to take them at the volume he’s taking them at. I think the shot looks very workable; this isn’t a shot that needs overhauling. I also think the creation concerns are a little overblown. He may not be a Luka iso bag work guy, but he can get downhill with a ball screen just fine; when he gets there, he finishes at a good clip, and he can spray the ball out to teammates in any spot on the floor once he touches the paint. Ultimately, I’m just not in panic mode with a 6’9” guy who has a special skill.


Drake Powell

I’m staying patient with UNC’s Drake Powell. He’s still equipped with the tools and encouraging skillset of a 3-and-D wing. At 6’6”, Powell is shooting 36.6% from three (2.4 3PA) and producing 1.3 stocks per game.
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Post#208 » by zzaj » Fri Feb 28, 2025 12:40 am

BlazersBroncos wrote:I’m probably wrong but does Asa remind anyone else of Noah Vonleh? Tweener who is sort of a master-of-none type?


I've REALLY cooled on Asa, partially because of the reason you mentioned. He seems stuck between positions and not particularly good at either one of them.

I sincerely hope I'm wrong and the Blazers DON'T draft him.
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Post#209 » by DusterBuster » Fri Feb 28, 2025 5:45 pm

This thread makes me sadder with each win.
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Post#210 » by Walton1one » Fri Feb 28, 2025 7:30 pm

lol, yep. I am becoming more convinced that POR is going tp punt on this draft and try and use that pick for an already established (young) player instead. I am putting a list together and will post in off season thread who those players could potentially be.

It would be one of two scenarios, a trade of their 25' 1st for a younger player (non star) whom they like more than what they think will be there at #12 or wherever they end up

OR they will trade that 25' 1st plus future 1st's and a young player (Sharpe\Scoot\Clingan) or two to go after a young start that fits their roster composition and age of what they view are the core players of this team.

Both scenarios are depressing
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Post#211 » by zzaj » Fri Feb 28, 2025 8:22 pm

Walton1one wrote:lol, yep. I am becoming more convinced that POR is going tp punt on this draft and try and use that pick for an already established (young) player instead. I am putting a list together and will post in off season thread who those players could potentially be.

It would be one of two scenarios, a trade of their 25' 1st for a younger player (non star) whom they like more than what they think will be there at #12 or wherever they end up

OR they will trade that 25' 1st plus future 1st's and a young player (Sharpe\Scoot\Clingan) or two to go after a young start that fits their roster composition and age of what they view are the core players of this team.

Both scenarios are depressing


Watch, Blazers are going to give up something like: Clingan, Sharpe, Grant, and this year's first for Durant and some other PHX trash/bad contracts...
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Post#212 » by zzaj » Fri Feb 28, 2025 8:31 pm

Right now my sights are purely on Rasheer Fleming. I just hope he doesn't move past the Blazers' range.

I think McNeeley is also a very good bet. He's actually thrived as his opportunity has become larger, whereas Kon has gotten a bit worse with larger responsiblities. Liam probably will never be an Allstar, but talk about a perfect role-player. This team seems to love role players.

Fort the record, I think Fears is going to be a very, very good player. He's tricky because he's probably 4 years away from really starting his full potential. In 4 years he'll be 22.

I said it from the beginning, I'm less enthused about the prospects in this draft than most. I think last year's class will be better overall. Obviously, there are going to be a couple of great players from 2025--it's pretty strong at the very top...but overall I think it's being oversung by quite a bit. The second round looks pretty rough, in particular.
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Post#213 » by Ptownsblazin12 » Sat Mar 1, 2025 4:25 am

Since Flagg is a pipe dream there is a Duke player I like and it isn’t Kneuppel. He lacks athleticism and will be a shooter and nothing else. Having watched a decent amount of Duke games I really like Evans. He has a nice shot and is a willing defender but his handle needs some work which is a concern for a shooting guard.
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Post#214 » by Case2012 » Sat Mar 1, 2025 5:20 am

With every day that passes im more and more convinced this pick is getting traded. I think if we made the pick, Fleming is a no brainer, but i think it's obvious Cronin is going to try and trade for a "star" to add to this group of role players. I think it's gonna be Young or Zion, but leaning towards Zion.
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Post#215 » by dckingsfan » Sat Mar 1, 2025 5:07 pm

"I think" at this point it is going to be one of Tre Johnson, Ben Saraf, Hugo Gonzalez or Egor Demin.

My 1/2 cent. And let's hope Cronin isn't so stupid as to go after Zion.
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Post#216 » by Case2012 » Tue Mar 4, 2025 12:54 am

It's hard to believe that Zion is only 23. It really depends on what the package would be. Despite his injuries, he is an elite player and a star that actually would fit with this group. NO isn't gonna just gift us him though and the 11 pick isnt gonna do it. If we could do it for any combination of Ayton, Grant, Simons, and one of Shaedon, Scoot, Clingan or Deni plus a few picks I would do it. Camara is my only untouchable. Since Cronin thinks Simons, Grant and Ayton are the core, he'd probably do the opposite and package all of the young guys plus Grant for salary and have a line up of SImons,Deni,Camara,Zion,Ayton... I don't like it but i don't completely HATE it. It would be way better (obviously) if we came out with a lineup of Scoot,Deni,Camara,Zion,Clingan. I would be pretty hyped on that team -- length, defense, playmaking at every position, rim protection and an actual star. Shaedon, plus one of the vets, the 11th pick, the Milwaukie pick, and some seconds? Yeah go for it.
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Post#217 » by elias808 » Tue Mar 4, 2025 7:06 am

Case2012 wrote:It's hard to believe that Zion is only 23. It really depends on what the package would be. Despite his injuries, he is an elite player and a star that actually would fit with this group. NO isn't gonna just gift us him though and the 11 pick isnt gonna do it. If we could do it for any combination of Ayton, Grant, Simons, and one of Shaedon, Scoot, Clingan or Deni plus a few picks I would do it. Camara is my only untouchable. Since Cronin thinks Simons, Grant and Ayton are the core, he'd probably do the opposite and package all of the young guys plus Grant for salary and have a line up of SImons,Deni,Camara,Zion,Ayton... I don't like it but i don't completely HATE it. It would be way better (obviously) if we came out with a lineup of Scoot,Deni,Camara,Zion,Clingan. I would be pretty hyped on that team -- length, defense, playmaking at every position, rim protection and an actual star. Shaedon, plus one of the vets, the 11th pick, the Milwaukie pick, and some seconds? Yeah go for it.


A line up what you are suggesting would arguably be the worst three point shooting starting 5 since the shot was instituted, hell maybe even before.
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Post#218 » by Case2012 » Tue Mar 4, 2025 8:59 am

elias808 wrote:
Case2012 wrote:It's hard to believe that Zion is only 23. It really depends on what the package would be. Despite his injuries, he is an elite player and a star that actually would fit with this group. NO isn't gonna just gift us him though and the 11 pick isnt gonna do it. If we could do it for any combination of Ayton, Grant, Simons, and one of Shaedon, Scoot, Clingan or Deni plus a few picks I would do it. Camara is my only untouchable. Since Cronin thinks Simons, Grant and Ayton are the core, he'd probably do the opposite and package all of the young guys plus Grant for salary and have a line up of SImons,Deni,Camara,Zion,Ayton... I don't like it but i don't completely HATE it. It would be way better (obviously) if we came out with a lineup of Scoot,Deni,Camara,Zion,Clingan. I would be pretty hyped on that team -- length, defense, playmaking at every position, rim protection and an actual star. Shaedon, plus one of the vets, the 11th pick, the Milwaukie pick, and some seconds? Yeah go for it.


A line up what you are suggesting would arguably be the worst three point shooting starting 5 since the shot was instituted, hell maybe even before.


What's the point of saying something like this? It's so ridiculous I'm not even sure why im replying. Every player in that line up besides Zion can shoot the 3 including Clingan. 4/5 aint that bad. Deni, Scoot, Camara, have all improved this season. Also, this is legitimately just my prediction of what Crolshey might try to do, nit what i think he should do. If he did, there are worse young rebuilding teams to watch.
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Post#219 » by dckingsfan » Wed Mar 5, 2025 4:13 pm

Case2012 wrote:
elias808 wrote:
Case2012 wrote:It's hard to believe that Zion is only 23. It really depends on what the package would be. Despite his injuries, he is an elite player and a star that actually would fit with this group. NO isn't gonna just gift us him though and the 11 pick isnt gonna do it. If we could do it for any combination of Ayton, Grant, Simons, and one of Shaedon, Scoot, Clingan or Deni plus a few picks I would do it. Camara is my only untouchable. Since Cronin thinks Simons, Grant and Ayton are the core, he'd probably do the opposite and package all of the young guys plus Grant for salary and have a line up of SImons,Deni,Camara,Zion,Ayton... I don't like it but i don't completely HATE it. It would be way better (obviously) if we came out with a lineup of Scoot,Deni,Camara,Zion,Clingan. I would be pretty hyped on that team -- length, defense, playmaking at every position, rim protection and an actual star. Shaedon, plus one of the vets, the 11th pick, the Milwaukie pick, and some seconds? Yeah go for it.


A line up what you are suggesting would arguably be the worst three point shooting starting 5 since the shot was instituted, hell maybe even before.


What's the point of saying something like this? It's so ridiculous I'm not even sure why im replying. Every player in that line up besides Zion can shoot the 3 including Clingan. 4/5 aint that bad. Deni, Scoot, Camara, have all improved this season. Also, this is legitimately just my prediction of what Crolshey might try to do, nit what i think he should do. If he did, there are worse young rebuilding teams to watch.

To make the trade, you would need to be convinced that Zion is going more than the 34 games per season he is averaging.

To make the trade, you would need to be convinced that Zion has turned the corner on his conditioning.

Do you have evidence of either? Hope is not a plan.
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Post#220 » by Walton1one » Wed Mar 5, 2025 6:00 pm

Not to derail this thread about Zion but.....

POR acquiring Zion would be a bad move IMO

Yes, he is 24yrs old, so he could fit with the current core, but his weight issues and injury history are too significant of concerns to ignore, especially for a franchise with a bad history with injured big men (Walton, Bowie, Oden). Does POR really need to add to this legacy\narrative by adding the unpredictable Zion? He11 no. :crazy:

- In his 5 years in the league, Zion has had ONE season where he played 70 games and ONE season where he played 61. The other 3 seasons? 24, 29 and whatever he ends up finishing with this year (under 30? under 40?).

- Even with all of his injury\weight issues & off-court concerns, NO is not going to just trade him for a song. They have to trade him for a King's ransom to justify dealing him away, lest they incur what is going on in DAL after the Doncic fiasco. So I would forget the notion of acquiring Zion on the cheap, NO has to be able to justify moving Zion to their fans and a 1st and Ayton is not going to do it.

POR would have to go all in, multiple 1st's (3), 1-2 young players from their core + whatever of the expiring deals (Ayton\Simons\RW3\Thybulle). He just is not worth that, if he was healthy? Maybe, but there is the rub, he is never healthy

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