Rumors Surfacing of Houston, Portland, NYK Trade

Pattycakes · Post #221 » by **Pattycakes** » Sun Jul 16, 2017 5:04 pm

Dame/Napier
CJ/Crabbe
Melo/Layman
Swanigan/Aminu
Nurkic/Collins

Barring what would get him here, that could potentially be a very solid offensive squad.

Possibly factoring in a healthy Ed Davis/Stokes from SL, Turner, Vonleh...and I still feel good about the potential of that lineup. Reminds me of older Denver teams (Melo days) on steroids.

I tend to think Houston with Cp3 will be worse than last year based on fit, but who knows how Melo sees it. Im a fan of bringing him onboard for a 2 season experiment, especially at a decent price.

Skhraeurpl · Post #222 » by **Skhraeurpl** » Sun Jul 16, 2017 5:48 pm

Case2012 wrote:Finally joined realgm huh? And this is your first post? A Woj bomb?

Welcome to the big leagues buddy.

Thanks, haha. All the other Blazer communities seem pretty toxic and I like the discussions here much more.

Case2012 · Post #223 » by **Case2012** » Sun Jul 16, 2017 5:54 pm

No way Melo waives his NTC to come here so It's pointless to entertain the idea. He's not smart enough to realize how good the Blazers would be with him, so whatever. Dude is a loser, always has been, always will be.

Pattycakes · Post #224 » by **Pattycakes** » Sun Jul 16, 2017 6:23 pm

Case2012 wrote:No way Melo waives his NTC to come here so It's pointless to entertain the idea. He's not smart enough to realize how good the Blazers would be with him, so whatever. Dude is a loser, always has been, always will be.

If it did happen, I might have to sig this lol

Post #225 » by **DaVoiceMaster** » Sun Jul 16, 2017 6:39 pm

I was playing around on the ESPN Trade Machine. Of course, one little trade turned into one big trade.

New York Knicks
Trades: Carmelo Anthony ($26.2), Courtney Lee ($11.7), Kyle O'Quin ($4.1)
Receives: Evan Turner ($17.1), Jeremy Lin ($12.0), Trevor Book ($9.1), Tarik Black ($6.6)
Outgoing: $42.0
Incoming: $44.8

Why: New York rids themselves of Melo. They receive a starting PG, which they do not currently have and a backup combo guard. Booker and Black are expiring contracts.

Houston Rockts
Trades: Ryan Anderson ($19.6), Eric Gordon (12.9), Trevor Ariza ($7.4), Tarik Black ($6.6), Future 1st Round Pick
Receives: Carmelo Anthony ($26.2), Andrew Nicholson ($6.4), Pat Connaughton ($1.5)
Outgoing: 46.5
Incoming: $34.1

Why: Houston gets Melo and exchanges Anderson's contract for the much smaller Nicholson contract. Pat is just an extra $1.5 million in savings. Houston saves a lot of money with this deal.

Brooklyn Nets
Trades: Jeremy Lin ($12.0), Trevor Booker ($9.1), Aaron Nicholson ($6.4)
Receives: Ryan Anderson ($19.6), Allen Crabbe ($19.3), Houston Future 1st Round Pick
Outgoing: $27.5
Incoming: $38.9

Why: Brooklyn trades their backup PG for a starting SG and backup PF for a starting PF and receives a future pick, as well.

Portland Trail Blazers
Trades: Allen Crabbe ($19.3), Evan Turner ($17.1), Pat Connaughton ($1.5)
Receives: Eric Gordon (12.9), Courtney Lee ($11.7), Trevor Ariza ($7.4), Kyle O'Quinn ($4.1)
Outgoing: $37.9
Incoming: $36.2

Why: Portland moves both big contracts for Crabbe and Turner and adds more serviceable contracts which could be traded in the future. Ariza is an expiring contract, as well.

PG Lillard/Gordon/Napier
SG McCollum/Lee
SF Harkless/Ariza/Layman
PF Vonleh/Aminu/Swanigan
_C Nurkic/O'Quinn/Collins

The problem with this trade is that Brooklyn has only 2 other contracts in double figures (Mosgov & Carroll). D. Russell won't be traded either. Everyone else's contracts are under $2 million so it's difficult to send more outgoing from Brooklyn and more incoming to Houston.

I tried to have a little fun, but in the end I guess I simply FAILED. I like the bench for the Blazers though!!!

BigLurch92 · Post #226 » by **BigLurch92** » Sun Jul 16, 2017 6:45 pm

Never really liked Melo but would be down with this. It would make the Blazers somewhat relevant which would be fun for a season or two. It is also very low-risk, so worst-case scenario, considering we trade one or two of our bad contracts for him, he leaves after a year and we get some cap room.

Post #227 » by **DaVoiceMaster** » Sun Jul 16, 2017 6:55 pm

I'd trade for Melo if we could unload at least 2 of the 3 big contracts (Crabbe, Turner, & Leonard). If nothing else, Melo walks next summer. Or he plays well and the Blazers do well. Or the Blazers unload him at the trade deadline. I don't think there is a big downside to trading for him because you know he won't be here in a year. That's only if the Blazers can unload some contracts.

Norm2953 · Post #228 » by **Norm2953** » Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:02 pm

I've always viewed these types of deals with an eye towards cutting salary so if we sent out Crabbe
and Mo to get Melo and he ended up walking next summer, we at least are free to pay Nurkic and
perhaps Noah if need be with an additional move.

PDXKnight · Post #229 » by **PDXKnight** » Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:45 pm

DaVoiceMaster wrote:I'd trade for Melo if we could unload at least 2 of the 3 big contracts (Crabbe, Turner, & Leonard). If nothing else, Melo walks next summer. Or he plays well and the Blazers do well. Or the Blazers unload him at the trade deadline. I don't think there is a big downside to trading for him because you know he won't be here in a year. That's only if the Blazers can unload some contracts.

Yeah I'm all for this for the same reason. I have very limited interest in Melo from an on the floor production standpoint but if we can roll the dice on him and reduce future salaries at the same it's well worth the risks. Heck even if he ends up making us worse he will 1) more than likely opt out after 1 year anyhow and 2) if he does pan out we have bargaining power in negotiating a new deal with him

Butter · Post #230 » by **Butter** » Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:19 pm

If Im Olshey, Id start rumbling about targeting Dwayne Wade. Now that Jimmy Butler is gone, Wade would be a perfect trade target for a salary dump.

At worst, it might motivate the other parties.

Fitz303 · Post #231 » by **Fitz303** » Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:23 pm

I'm convinced CJ is either an internet troll, trying to rile everybody up when a player is available, or he just wants every rumored available player on his team

Read on Twitter

Case2012 · Post #232 » by **Case2012** » Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:58 pm

Wearing Broy's number too... smh

DusterBuster · Post #233 » by **DusterBuster** » Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:13 pm

Case2012 wrote:Wearing Broy's number too... smh

Probably just the best photo they could combine for the photoshop lol

Case2012 · Post #234 » by **Case2012** » Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:16 pm

For sure, but still. My stomach turned a little bit.

DusterBuster · Post #235 » by **DusterBuster** » Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:19 pm

I like where Olshey's head is at with this. Definitely makes a lot more sense than all the hand-wringing that was going on over Anderson or Lee/O'Quinn. I also like seeing the Blazers not being interested in making yet another Western Conference a team more talent laden for incremental improvements to themselves.

I worry that Carmelo is already too zeroed in on Houston, but it would be cool if CJ and Dame could change his mind. I do think Portland ends up being substantially better with him.

Ripcity4life · Post #236 » by **Ripcity4life** » Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:29 pm

As much as i am not a Melo fan there really is no one out there they could get (realistic) besides maybe Monroe that might make a real difference.

DusterBuster · Post #237 » by **DusterBuster** » Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:48 pm

Ripcity4life wrote:As much as i am not a Melo fan there really is no one out there they could get (realistic) besides maybe Monroe that might make a real difference.

Yeah, I'm really no big Melo fan either, but it's the kind of swing Portland needs to take considering where the rest of the Western Conference is right now. I can see him being a pretty good fit since it gives the Blazers an offensive dimension they really don't have.

GEE · Post #238 » by **GEE** » Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:00 pm

I told ya'll... CJ and Dame are on board with this. Olshey wouldn't have made the comments to Woj if they weren't. They're gonna sell it to Melo. Just look at that photoshop pic; He looks pretty good wearing black.

On a side note: I'm not buying the income tax issue as being a factor. Remember that we have no sales tax. That means Melo could buy his car, condo, bling, clothes, meals, etc all tax free.

Renegade · Post #239 » by **Renegade** » Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:34 pm

GEE wrote:That means Melo could buy his car, condo, bling, clothes, meals, etc all tax free.

There is no sales tax or transfer tax on most real estate in Texas. I am not sure about mobile homes and factory-built housing. That would be the largest item in your list.

Wizenheimer · Post #240 » by **Wizenheimer** » Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:42 pm

GEE wrote:On a side note: I'm not buying the income tax issue as being a factor. Remember that we have no sales tax. That means Melo could buy his car, condo, bling, clothes, meals, etc all tax free.

state income is definitely a factor but it might not be a disqualifying one

IIRC, tax is calculated according to where games are played; 1/82 for each game. So, 41 games would be half of Melo's salary. Theoretically, 13M would be subject to Oregon State income tax. What with deductions and such it would probably still be a million. 80K a month to the state. He'd definitely feel that, and that's only for his NBA contract

it's actually very complicated from what I've read, and if Anthony has endorsement and investment income that will be taxed in Oregon...another big ouch!