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Re: Offseason 

Post#261 » by BlazersBroncos » Thu Aug 5, 2021 3:11 pm

Jsun947 wrote:
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mighty_duck wrote:That's not fair.
We're worse.

We downgraded our bench.
* Kanter did a good job holding the fort last season when Nurk was down.
* Melo was a reliable scorer off the bench.
Dame is a year older, and is about to start a slow slide from his prime two years ago.

Our second unit is looking like it will bleed points. If Nurk misses time, it'll be even uglier.

Our roster is woefully unbalanced. It only makes sense if CJ is traded for a PF.


The biggest problem with the bench was defense and two of the biggest offenders were Melo+Kanter.


Ya, one of the problems with Kanter & Melo is they are a total disaster on defense and pairing either with Dame or CJ on the court isn’t particularly manageable. Giles & RHJ either weren’t or shouldn’t have been in the rotation at all.

Going from that to Zeller, Snell, and Millsap would be a meaningful upgrade, but let’s be real, none of those guys should be in a closing 5 of a playoff game.

It’s the starting 5 that needs to fit better together


I think Millsap is more playable at the end of a PO game than Ben Simmons is lol, and I WANT Simmons. Thats how insane this teams general position is right now.
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Re: Offseason 

Post#262 » by Jsun947 » Thu Aug 5, 2021 3:18 pm

There is no reason to want Ben Simmons on your team. He’s unplayable late in games. He’s a terrible teammate. He hasn’t improved a single skill since coming to the NBA. He’s vastly overpaid.
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Re: Offseason 

Post#263 » by Norm2953 » Fri Aug 6, 2021 12:08 am

Jsun947 wrote:There is no reason to want Ben Simmons on your team. He’s unplayable late in games. He’s a terrible teammate. He hasn’t improved a single skill since coming to the NBA. He’s vastly overpaid.


He apparently is open to going to one of the California teams. Does he know Sacramento is one of those California teams :lol:
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Re: Offseason 

Post#264 » by GEE » Fri Aug 6, 2021 1:57 am

Oden2 wrote:why didn’t we offer drummond a mle deal??



Cause Olshey's smart. Seriously though... I've admired Drummond since the day he was drafted, and would have considered him instead of Nurkic.
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Re: Offseason 

Post#265 » by The Sebastian Express » Fri Aug 6, 2021 5:40 am

Drummond was terrible. He can't guard on the perimeter, he can't stretch the floor and he has rock hands. There's a reason the Lakers were better with Gasol at the five when they didn't want to put AD there.
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Re: Offseason 

Post#266 » by Village Idiot » Fri Aug 6, 2021 5:51 am

Norm2953 wrote:
Jsun947 wrote:There is no reason to want Ben Simmons on your team. He’s unplayable late in games. He’s a terrible teammate. He hasn’t improved a single skill since coming to the NBA. He’s vastly overpaid.


He apparently is open to going to one of the California teams. Does he know Sacramento is one of those California teams :lol:
Looking at the source, a California sports radio host, and to me it seems obvious this guy is:

1. trying to generate interest and listenership
2. connected to people in the Warriors organization

and probably has no contacts with Simmons or Clutch.

I would put little credibility in this in the same way Henry Abbot's speculation was quickly and repeatedly shot down by Dame himself. Until we hear something directly from Simmons or Clutch I wouldn't pay heed to this report
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Re: Offseason 

Post#267 » by soobias » Fri Aug 6, 2021 1:35 pm

the more i look at teams the more i would like to blow it up (under new management) lakers,clips,warriors and others will be past thier prime in a cpl years or so.
i would prob be ok with trading with boston for brown,pritchard,smart,williams 3rd,picks
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Re: Offseason 

Post#268 » by GEE » Sat Aug 7, 2021 1:39 am

I think we, along with Philly, are the only two teams whose off-seasons aren't yet 95+% complete. I believe the Warriors might be paying close attention, thinking they may be able to add either Simmons or Dame to their team, without giving up any of their Big 3 in Curry, Klay and Green.

Time to ask ourselves... What's the best offer we can get for Dame? :sigh:
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Re: Offseason 

Post#269 » by Village Idiot » Sat Aug 7, 2021 7:30 am

Paul Millsap is realistically the best free-agent we can acquire but he looked pretty bad for Denver this past season. Michael Beasley might be a better roster addition. He must be desperate to make this last chance count. The talent and skills have never been in question. The guy can still ball.

The other options at F using DJJ and a protected 1st or a 2nd or two for:

- Thad Young who just found himself in the middle of a rebuild in San Antonio
- Lauri Markannan - doesn't want to be in Chicago. His catch and shoot corner three numbers are outstanding
- Terrence Ross - at 6'8 can play SF
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Re: Offseason 

Post#270 » by PDXKnight » Sat Aug 7, 2021 8:25 pm

Heat got jimmy butler re inked. Probably had to do it but i’m interested to see what his contract looks like when he’s 36 making 50 mil plus
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Re: Offseason 

Post#271 » by soobias » Sat Aug 7, 2021 8:41 pm

now dame might be hurt in the abdomen lol :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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Re: Offseason 

Post#272 » by PDXKnight » Sun Aug 8, 2021 2:38 am

GEE wrote:I think we, along with Philly, are the only two teams whose off-seasons aren't yet 95+% complete. I believe the Warriors might be paying close attention, thinking they may be able to add either Simmons or Dame to their team, without giving up any of their Big 3 in Curry, Klay and Green.

Time to ask ourselves... What's the best offer we can get for Dame? :sigh:


There’s only one player on gs id trade dame for and that’s steph. I’d never help them win anything
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Re: Offseason 

Post#273 » by Norm2953 » Sun Aug 8, 2021 3:09 am

It might be interesting to see if the Bulls eventually bite on some version of DJJ and a protected first
for Markkanon which was suggested on the trade board by Soulyss
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Re: Offseason 

Post#274 » by Village Idiot » Sun Aug 8, 2021 8:56 am

Kevin Love is another guy to keep our eye on. I can see him and Cleveland agreeing on a buyout under the condition he doesn't join LeBron and Klutch in LA
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Re: Offseason 

Post#275 » by GEE » Sun Aug 8, 2021 1:57 pm

Village Idiot wrote:Kevin Love is another guy to keep our eye on. I can see him and Cleveland agreeing on a buyout under the condition he doesn't join LeBron and Klutch in LA


Agreed. Either one of K.Love or Aldridge would help a ton next year.

But the main issue to me still, is are the Blazers planning to roll out the three small guard lineup AGAIN? It sure is looking that way, if only Olshey is able to sell Dame on it. Good luck with that. I have zero confidence it will work any better than it did last year... regardless of whose coaching, and Chauncey's no John Wooden.
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Re: Offseason 

Post#276 » by Epicurus » Sun Aug 8, 2021 2:04 pm

The lineup of Lillard, McCollum, Powell, Covington, and Nurkic worked well last season, both in the regular season and playoff. It is not impossible, actually rather easy, to check your impressions before offering them publicly.
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Re: Offseason 

Post#277 » by GEE » Sun Aug 8, 2021 2:34 pm

Epicurus wrote:The lineup of Lillard, McCollum, Powell, Covington, and Nurkic worked well last season, both in the regular season and playoff. It is not impossible, actually rather easy, to check your impressions before offering them publicly.


Why don't you check your stats :clown: . You can keep showing the same selective offensive stats that the Blazers did quite well in, but most everyone here also sees how bad we were in many of the other, not so advanced stats. Anyone, even children, can see this. Why can't you? And why do you always feel the need to be offensive and insulting? Stay classy.

Running it all back with small-ball will not result in any kind of playoff success, even if you dig up John Wooden... it ain't working.
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Re: Offseason 

Post#278 » by PDXKnight » Sun Aug 8, 2021 3:09 pm

Norm2953 wrote:It might be interesting to see if the Bulls eventually bite on some version of DJJ and a protected first
for Markkanon which was suggested on the trade board by Soulyss


whoa that’d be nice
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Re: Offseason 

Post#279 » by JasonStern » Sun Aug 8, 2021 4:52 pm

Lillard
McCollum/Powell/Simons/McLemore/Snell/Elleby
Jones/Little
Covington/Brown
Nurkić/Zeller

Everyone craps on Olshey for trying the same thing over and over, but forcing a coach to play 3-4 shooting guards at the same time is something I can't remember other teams ever trying.


GEE wrote:
Village Idiot wrote:Kevin Love is another guy to keep our eye on. I can see him and Cleveland agreeing on a buyout under the condition he doesn't join LeBron and Klutch in LA


Agreed. Either one of K.Love or Aldridge would help a ton next year.


You'll take 6'2" Avery Bradley as the big off-season acquisition and you'll be happy with it because Bradley plays defense... against SGs - not the PFs he'll have to defend nightly.
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Re: Offseason 

Post#280 » by Village Idiot » Sun Aug 8, 2021 5:55 pm

JasonStern wrote:Lillard
McCollum/Powell/Simons/McLemore/Snell/Elleby
Jones/Little
Covington/Brown
Nurkić/Zeller

Everyone craps on Olshey for trying the same thing over and over, but forcing a coach to play 3-4 shooting guards at the same time is something I can't remember other teams ever trying.


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Village Idiot wrote:Kevin Love is another guy to keep our eye on. I can see him and Cleveland agreeing on a buyout under the condition he doesn't join LeBron and Klutch in LA


Agreed. Either one of K.Love or Aldridge would help a ton next year.


You'll take 6'2" Avery Bradley as the big off-season acquisition and you'll be happy with it because Bradley plays defense... against SGs - not the PFs he'll have to defend nightly.
You forgot Snell at SF who lead the NBA is catch and shoot 3 point percentage and who is a decent defender.
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