Trade deadline, buyouts, and waivers

[BlazersBroncos]

Why on earth would HOU take on Buddy's deal for 2 SRP's. Thats NUTS!

[d-train]

Powell has played 40%+ of his career minutes at SF and has a 6'11 wingspan. I think that has to be part of this play.

I also think PDX believes GTJ is going to get bigger offers than Powell this summer due to youth.

At the end of the day, I would have preferred to make a move for AG using GTJ and even a pick if needed since he is cost controlled for another year but I think GTJ may not have been as valuable as we have hoped due to the cap surplus in 2021.

Powell is better and if we have to go into luxury tax, let's do it with the best players we can get.

[d-train]

Why on earth would HOU take on Buddy's deal for 2 SRP's. Thats NUTS!

They should have kept Levert, but that's water under the bridge. Hield is a good shooter.

[BlazersBroncos]

I also think its worth noting that despite the narrative that GTJ is a up-and-coming defender and Powell is a turnstile, all advenced metrics disagree.

[DaVoiceMaster]

Blazers save another $844,000 on this deal, giving them roughly $1,500,000 available salary to sign someone off waivers.

[Effigy]

If its remotely possible our D just got worse.

Norm is a turnstile.

You are not wrong LOL. I like Trent but I assume you traded him because he cannot start along Dame CJ. How the hell you are gonna play Norm?

McCollum+picks/prospects for Bradley Beal?

Dame/Powell/Beal/Covington/Nurkić

I can dream...

Trent's 'max' is much lower than Powell's, and Trent was RFA. I think Powell will get more, and I think he'll want to go where he can start. unless we basically promise to trade CJ, I don't see how he stays. I'd have rather kept Trent to what I think will be a smaller deal, but we will see what happens.

[Wickzki]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ydn9k4wf

Blazers +5 wins
Raptors -3 wins

[grigs]

Read on Twitter

There goes Dipo

This is a fake Shams account. No blue check mark. 3 at the end of the username. This trade didn't happen.

[skywalker33]

Blazers save another $844,000 on this deal, giving them roughly $1,500,000 available salary to sign someone off waivers.

Eternal Optimist !

[Waynearchetype]

Trent's 'max' is much lower than Powell's, and Trent was RFA. I think Powell will get more, and I think he'll want to go where he can start. unless we basically promise to trade CJ, I don't see how he stays. I'd have rather kept Trent to what I think will be a smaller deal, but we will see what happens.

The worst part is seeing the deal Denver got for AG. They sent out a bad contract in Harris, a super late FRP, and a PG that can't shoot. I feel like we could have easily matched that and despite Gordon not being the best player, his playmaking may have budged us from dead last place as a team in assists per game (which would have hopefully opened up some other folks games).

[Wickzki]

Read on Twitter

There goes Dipo

This is a fake Shams account. No blue check mark. 3 at the end of the username. This trade didn't happen.

I see that now. Twitter put it at the top of their trending section as a sticky.

[JasonStern]

I also think its worth noting that despite the narrative that GTJ is a up-and-coming defender and Powell is a turnstile, all advenced metrics disagree.

Not seeing why this even matters. The Blazers don't play defense anyway.

[Roy The Natural]

My cat coughed up a hairball Monday morning. For some reason, that's a perfect representation of how I feel about this trade.... This trade could be fantastic, if it was part of some larger direction for the team. The reality.... the Blazers developed a player in Gary Trent to be a valuable rotation piece that a lot of teams wouldn't mind having, and traded him and some dead money for a rental.

You know what this is.... this is the Aaron Afflalo trade all over again. Burn this heap down in the summer, and make sure you lock Stotts and Olshey in the building before you light it ablaze.

[Waynearchetype]

My cat coughed up a hairball Monday morning. For some reason, that's a perfect representation of how I feel about this trade.... This trade could be fantastic, if it was part of some larger direction for the team. The reality.... the Blazers developed a player in Gary Trent to be a valuable rotation piece that a lot of teams wouldn't mind having, and traded him and some dead money for a rental.

You know what this is.... this is the Aaron Afflalo trade all over again. Burn this heap down in the summer, and make sure you lock Stotts and Olshey in the building before you light it ablaze.

The annoying part for me is this trade will likely notch us a few more wins this season. We'll get bumped out in the first round and folks will say "Olshey did all he could!" and he will likely continue as GM. Jody Allen is likely fine with being a first round exit so long as the team is profitable, and a lot of Portland fans seem to think trying the same thing over and over will eventually work because all of our players have All Star potential just waiting to be unleashed that no one else in the league can see.

I know it could be much worse, we could be perpetually rebuilding like SAC/ORL, but at the end of the day at least their unknown quantities actually might provide some hope for the future.

[Roy The Natural]

My cat coughed up a hairball Monday morning. For some reason, that's a perfect representation of how I feel about this trade.... This trade could be fantastic, if it was part of some larger direction for the team. The reality.... the Blazers developed a player in Gary Trent to be a valuable rotation piece that a lot of teams wouldn't mind having, and traded him and some dead money for a rental.

You know what this is.... this is the Aaron Afflalo trade all over again. Burn this heap down in the summer, and make sure you lock Stotts and Olshey in the building before you light it ablaze.

The annoying part for me is this trade will likely notch us a few more wins this season. We'll get bumped out in the first round and folks will say "Olshey did all he could!" and he will likely continue as GM. Jody Allen is likely fine with being a first round exit so long as the team is profitable, and a lot of Portland fans seem to think trying the same thing over and over will eventually work because all of our players have All Star potential just waiting to be unleashed that no one else in the league can see.

I know it could be much worse, we could be perpetually rebuilding like SAC/ORL, but at the end of the day at least their unknown quantities actually might provide some hope for the future.

Yea.... I don't even know why I'm a fan of this team. I've never even been to Portland. Just got hooked on the team via Brandon Roy. They're starting to get into that territory that the San Diego Chargers got where I just stopped caring all that much. I always couldn't understand bandwagon fans who just latched onto a winning franchise and didn't want to go through any of the reality of being an actual fan of a sports team. I'm slowly starting to understand it. Watching Stotts and Olshey just do an absolutely AWFUL job of building something meaningful around Lillard is just becoming an exercise in misery.

Like I said, I like Powell... but he doesn't change this team's trajectory. He's going to require a MASSIVE contract to come back and stay in Portland.... let's be honest. This is a rental. It's a 1st round pick in value for a non-needle moving rental. It's a desperation Aaron Afflalo move again.

It's a bummer. However, I think we all need to prepare for the absolute demolition of this roster in the offseason. I wonder what Lillard will fetch and where he'll end up. It will be interesting for sure.

[PDXKnight]

My cat coughed up a hairball Monday morning. For some reason, that's a perfect representation of how I feel about this trade.... This trade could be fantastic, if it was part of some larger direction for the team. The reality.... the Blazers developed a player in Gary Trent to be a valuable rotation piece that a lot of teams wouldn't mind having, and traded him and some dead money for a rental.

You know what this is.... this is the Aaron Afflalo trade all over again. Burn this heap down in the summer, and make sure you lock Stotts and Olshey in the building before you light it ablaze.

The annoying part for me is this trade will likely notch us a few more wins this season. We'll get bumped out in the first round and folks will say "Olshey did all he could!" and he will likely continue as GM. Jody Allen is likely fine with being a first round exit so long as the team is profitable, and a lot of Portland fans seem to think trying the same thing over and over will eventually work because all of our players have All Star potential just waiting to be unleashed that no one else in the league can see.

I know it could be much worse, we could be perpetually rebuilding like SAC/ORL, but at the end of the day at least their unknown quantities actually might provide some hope for the future.

Yea.... I don't even know why I'm a fan of this team. I've never even been to Portland. Just got hooked on the team via Brandon Roy. They're starting to get into that territory that the San Diego Chargers got where I just stopped caring all that much. I always couldn't understand bandwagon fans who just latched onto a winning franchise and didn't want to go through any of the reality of being an actual fan of a sports team. I'm slowly starting to understand it. Watching Stotts and Olshey just do an absolutely AWFUL job of building something meaningful around Lillard is just becoming an exercise in misery.

Like I said, I like Powell... but he doesn't change this team's trajectory. He's going to require a MASSIVE contract to come back and stay in Portland.... let's be honest. This is a rental. It's a 1st round pick in value for a non-needle moving rental. It's a desperation Aaron Afflalo move again.

It's a bummer. However, I think we all need to prepare for the absolute demolition of this roster in the offseason. I wonder what Lillard will fetch and where he'll end up. It will be interesting for sure.

i don’t think we go into roster demo until potentially the 2022 off season. When nurk expires we will have major decisions to make

[Effigy]

Eh, winning the title isn't everything. These days it isn't about how well you construct a team, it's about how big your market is. I like watching and rooting for this team. There are a lot of teams in much worse situations.The next time we rebuild it could be over a decade before we matter again like the Kings, TWolves, Magic, Hornets, Knicks, etc.

[Roy The Natural]

The annoying part for me is this trade will likely notch us a few more wins this season. We'll get bumped out in the first round and folks will say "Olshey did all he could!" and he will likely continue as GM. Jody Allen is likely fine with being a first round exit so long as the team is profitable, and a lot of Portland fans seem to think trying the same thing over and over will eventually work because all of our players have All Star potential just waiting to be unleashed that no one else in the league can see.

I know it could be much worse, we could be perpetually rebuilding like SAC/ORL, but at the end of the day at least their unknown quantities actually might provide some hope for the future.

Yea.... I don't even know why I'm a fan of this team. I've never even been to Portland. Just got hooked on the team via Brandon Roy. They're starting to get into that territory that the San Diego Chargers got where I just stopped caring all that much. I always couldn't understand bandwagon fans who just latched onto a winning franchise and didn't want to go through any of the reality of being an actual fan of a sports team. I'm slowly starting to understand it. Watching Stotts and Olshey just do an absolutely AWFUL job of building something meaningful around Lillard is just becoming an exercise in misery.

Like I said, I like Powell... but he doesn't change this team's trajectory. He's going to require a MASSIVE contract to come back and stay in Portland.... let's be honest. This is a rental. It's a 1st round pick in value for a non-needle moving rental. It's a desperation Aaron Afflalo move again.

It's a bummer. However, I think we all need to prepare for the absolute demolition of this roster in the offseason. I wonder what Lillard will fetch and where he'll end up. It will be interesting for sure.

i don’t think we go into roster demo until potentially the 2022 off season. When nurk expires we will have major decisions to make

I sort of disagree. All the ill-fitting but individually decent pieces will be more attractive when they aren't rentals. If the Blazers flop in the playoffs again why wait? Covington is still good value on that contract. Murk's injury history isn't great but he's worth a look for a lot of teams on his current deal. CJ if he returns to playing early season offense is still young enough to get picks and some expirings. I guess your right though, it would just continue the perpetual Trent of asset mismanagement to wait until everything of value was at a low point to do something with it. Or worse, just ride it out and lose everything of value for nothing.

[BlazersBroncos]

i don’t think we go into roster demo until potentially the 2022 off season. When nurk expires we will have major decisions to make

Which is EXACTLY why we should have targeted AG. He expires summer 2022, and thats when we have our coming-to-jesus moment and make the hard decisions. Even if it took a FRP attached to GTJ, it would be worth it for an extra year before 'the reckoning'. It would have given Dame the best squad he ever played with for 2 PO runs.

Now we use GTJ for a rental who likely is gone after the season and overlaps with our 2nd most expensive player. Even if Norm was 6'7, this would be a worse use of assets than going after AG because of that impending UFA status.

Its just dumb, dumb, dumb.

[Roy The Natural]

Eh, winning the title isn't everything. These days it isn't about how well you construct a team, it's about how big your market is. I like watching and rooting for this team. There are a lot of teams in much worse situations.The next time we rebuild it could be over a decade before we matter again like the Kings, TWolves, Magic, Hornets, Knicks, etc.

Depends on new ownership. The reason those teams perpetually suck is because they are poorly run all the way at the top. Not one of those teams has a competent ownership group.