Trade Deadline Approaches

[Case2012]

I would have offered them every player not named Dame and as many picks as they wanted. Fill out the team in the offseason with ring chasers. Letting Durant go to PHO basically closes Dame’s window to compete in Portland IMO, and let’s be real that window wasn’t looking great but it’s been slammed shut.

[PDXKnight]

Gotta trade dame after this. Feels like what we all knew, we can’t get over the hump with this bunch

[DeBlazerRiddem]

Damn, that's a big move from Phoenix. I agree, I don't think we beat that offer. Paul/Booker/Durant/Ayton they lack depth but that is a ton of playoff power.

With other teams around us getting stronger, if Portland doesn't make a move we are lottery bound. It would be kind of funny to see us accept that fate like last year and #tank4wemby.

[Case2012]

First day as owner and he pulls this move off, unbelievable. Meanwhile The Vulcans are scrambling to not pay the tax while they have mvp level dame. I love this game.

[DaVoiceMaster]

What would the Warriors give for GPII?

[monopoman]

Damn, that's a big move from Phoenix. I agree, I don't think we beat that offer. Paul/Booker/Durant/Ayton they lack depth but that is a ton of playoff power.

With other teams around us getting stronger, if Portland doesn't make a move we are lottery bound. It would be kind of funny to see us accept that fate like last year and #tank4wemby.

You think the players they offered were a huge get?

I have a feeling Portland offering Sharpe and Simons were more appealing to what seems to be a rebuilding Nets team, than a bunch of guys that are solid but not great. I have a feeling this deal was made because KD was adamant about wanting the Suns and the Suns were willing to give up four 1st round picks to a team that traded away a lot of their picks.

Typically when teams go into rebuild mode they want young guys with potential and picks not guys in their mid 20's that are pretty good but nowhere near ever being great. Unless you think the Nets are still trying to win, which they might be but they likely aren't winning more games without Kyrie and KD.

[The Sebastian Express]

Damn, that's a big move from Phoenix. I agree, I don't think we beat that offer. Paul/Booker/Durant/Ayton they lack depth but that is a ton of playoff power.

With other teams around us getting stronger, if Portland doesn't make a move we are lottery bound. It would be kind of funny to see us accept that fate like last year and #tank4wemby.

You think the players they offered were a huge get?

I have a feeling Portland offering Sharpe and Simons were more appealing to what seems to be a rebuilding Nets team, than a bunch of guys that are solid but not great. I have a feeling this deal was made because KD was adamant about wanting the Suns and the Suns were willing to give up four 1st round picks to a team that traded away a lot of their picks.

Typically when teams go into rebuild mode they want young guys with potential and picks not guys in their mid 20's that are pretty good but nowhere near ever being great. Unless you think the Nets are still trying to win, which they might be but they likely aren't winning more games without Kyrie and KD.

The Nets cannot tank because their picks are unprotected and go to Houston.

So the Nets are in an interesting spot where they have to try to compete while still collecting more assets.

There are contenders out there that'll give a bigger package for Mikal Bridges than they would for OG.

That isn't the same for Ant. Shaedon is a great prospect, but he's not so great a prospect right now to package with Simons to beat Mikal Bridges.

I really think people here are undervaluing Mikal. Mikal is the prototypical three and d player. He is twenty-six and a half. He shoots 39% this year from the three. He guards 1-4 and can probably guard against some smaller of the small ball fives. He is growing his offensive game. Over his career he has shot 37.5% from three and he is a player who can legitimately win defensive player of the year.

The package they can get for Mikal Bridges himself is significant if they want to go that route.

[monopoman]

Damn, that's a big move from Phoenix. I agree, I don't think we beat that offer. Paul/Booker/Durant/Ayton they lack depth but that is a ton of playoff power.

With other teams around us getting stronger, if Portland doesn't make a move we are lottery bound. It would be kind of funny to see us accept that fate like last year and #tank4wemby.

You think the players they offered were a huge get?

I have a feeling Portland offering Sharpe and Simons were more appealing to what seems to be a rebuilding Nets team, than a bunch of guys that are solid but not great. I have a feeling this deal was made because KD was adamant about wanting the Suns and the Suns were willing to give up four 1st round picks to a team that traded away a lot of their picks.

Typically when teams go into rebuild mode they want young guys with potential and picks not guys in their mid 20's that are pretty good but nowhere near ever being great. Unless you think the Nets are still trying to win, which they might be but they likely aren't winning more games without Kyrie and KD.

The Nets cannot tank because their picks are unprotected and go to Houston.

So the Nets are in an interesting spot where they have to try to compete while still collecting more assets.

There are contenders out there that'll give a bigger package for Mikal Bridges than they would for OG.

That isn't the same for Ant. Shaedon is a great prospect, but he's not so great a prospect right now to package with Simons to beat Mikal Bridges.

I really think people here are undervaluing Mikal. Mikal is the prototypical three and d player. He is twenty-six and a half. He shoots 39% this year from the three. He guards 1-4 and can probably guard against some smaller of the small ball fives. He is growing his offensive game. Over his career he has shot 37.5% from three and he is a player who can legitimately win defensive player of the year.

The package they can get for Mikal Bridges himself is significant if they want to go that route.

Sure but you have to admit they are likely to win less games now, I get it they owe picks so they can't win 30ish games or less and get a nice draft pick of their own. But I bet you almost any player on the roster 26 years or older is likely considered trade fodder if the right deal comes around. I just don't see them trying to build around Mikal Bridges and Simmons as being a competitive team.

I'm sure they would rather throw young guys out there that might develop into something than a bunch of vets that are capped out and might not improve much.

[The Sebastian Express]

Oh I don't think they'll try to build around them for a longterm competitive team, but I do think they'll explore trading Bridges back to the western conference almost immediately for a number of assets. Which would be hilarious.

[Case2012]

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[Norm2953]

The problem with these OG and now Mikal trades are that big need this team has had since
LA left, still has not been filled.

If you think sacrificing Ant and Sharpe for a team built around Dame, Grant and either OG or Bridges,
gets the team past the first round, think again. Playoff basketball is a different beast than winning
games in the regular season. Unless Nurk suddenly becomes the Bosnian beast again, the team
would be depending on Eubanks/Watford for major minutes to rebound/defense.

[The Sebastian Express]

Trades for those players don't stop all other trades. Nurkic as great as he is when he's on is also run off the court by AD, Draymond, etc. He can't keep up or work well against mobile fours who turn into fives in the playoffs.

Ant, God bless him, is a great shooter. A fantastic one even. But he's not even average defensively and he cannot run the offense consistently. On a contender he's a microwave player. Trading him for someone who would play a pivotal role in a contender while there's a chance is ideal.

[yellowknifer]

Damn, that's a big move from Phoenix. I agree, I don't think we beat that offer. Paul/Booker/Durant/Ayton they lack depth but that is a ton of playoff power.

With other teams around us getting stronger, if Portland doesn't make a move we are lottery bound. It would be kind of funny to see us accept that fate like last year and #tank4wemby.

You think the players they offered were a huge get?

I have a feeling Portland offering Sharpe and Simons were more appealing to what seems to be a rebuilding Nets team, than a bunch of guys that are solid but not great. I have a feeling this deal was made because KD was adamant about wanting the Suns and the Suns were willing to give up four 1st round picks to a team that traded away a lot of their picks.

Typically when teams go into rebuild mode they want young guys with potential and picks not guys in their mid 20's that are pretty good but nowhere near ever being great. Unless you think the Nets are still trying to win, which they might be but they likely aren't winning more games without Kyrie and KD.

They might be trying to rebuild Simmons value. The guys around him fit pretty well with what he brings. Also Bridges is pretty good better than just another guy IMO. Is it true you guys are willing to give up Sharpe and picks for OG? Or at least is that really the rumor?

[yellowknifer]

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Just let me dream.

I don't think the Raptors would be interested in Nurkic with Poetl just being acquired. Maybe I'm wrong.

[Norm2953]

They aren't a contender however even if they get Bridges and OG for once again, unless Nurk reverts
back to his 2018 form, the team would be depending on Eubanks/Watford to play against Denver (Jokic),
Memphis (JJJ), Sac (Sabonis) and now Phoenix

The team would then be sacrificing their youth and picks, just to fail once again

[Case2012]

The problem with these OG and now Mikal trades are that big need this team has had since
LA left, still has not been filled.

If you think sacrificing Ant and Sharpe for a team built around Dame, Grant and either OG or Bridges,
gets the team past the first round, think again. Playoff basketball is a different beast than winning
games in the regular season. Unless Nurk suddenly becomes the Bosnian beast again, the team
would be depending on Eubanks/Watford for major minutes to rebound/defense.

I'm suggesting we trade for both bridges and og not one or the other. Obviously we need a center but having 2 dpoy candidates next to him with Grant as well would be sick on the defensive end but they can still score.

We'd need rebounding desperately so I would offer Whiteside a minimum deal. I would have to think he'd be way more effective defensively with actual defenders on the perimeter instead of leaving him on an island. He could gobble up rebounds and protect the rim with his length.

Perfect? Hell no, but better than Nurkic imo. We'd have the best defensive starting line up in the league right?

[The Sebastian Express]

Okay I see you're stuck in the mindset and not reading the post about how making a trade of Ant and/or Shaedon doesn't mean we don't also try to make additional trades/find bigger guys on the buyout market.

We'll just leave it as we both have different thoughts on the values of certain players.

[Norm2953]

Team would be sacrificing their youth and likely most of their picks in the hope Eubanks and
even Whiteside would hold their own against a playoff caliber team's big.

In the end what's needed is to get a player on Dame's level or a serviceable big but be prepared
to see Simons and Sharpe by 2025 be more than handful for the Blazer team in 2025 to handle.

[Case2012]

You can always find young players, I don't really view it as sacrificing anything. What we ARE doing is sacrificing the best blazer of all times prime. I would rather worry about finding talented young players 4 years from now than waste another MVP level season by Dame. I really don't get the "but what about the future" mindset. Do we want to win now? Yes. Ok, let's go for it then.

[The Sebastian Express]

Okay I see my post didn't get through. If you think those trades are made with the idea in mind to go into the playoffs with Eubanks as our only big let alone our starting center, I don't know what to tell you.