CJ TRADE IDEAS

[BlazersBroncos]

I think this gets it done for all involved (Granted, some SAS fans value Murray as an All Star, but I wont get into that)

PDX TRADES - CJ McCollum, CJ Elleby, 2024 FRP, Top-8 Protected 2026 FRP Lotto Protected
PDX RECEIVES - Ben Simmons

PHI TRADES - Ben Simmons, Tyrese Maxey
PHI RECEIVES - CJ McCollum, Dejounte Murray

SAS TRADES - Dejounte Murray
SAS RECEIVES - Tyrese Maxey, CJ Elleby, 2024 FRP Top-8 Protected, 2026 FRP Lotto Protected

PDX also sends 1.7M to SAS to cover the Elleby cut.

PHI gets their shot creating guard while upgrading the defense at the other guard position. Getting Murray to play alongside CJ means they can put Dejounte on whomever the opposing teams best guard is defensively while hiding CJ on the other guy.

SAS cashes in on these teams wanting to make a deal but PHI wanting to 'win now'. Maxey is cheap for another 3 years and flashed a ton last season, and they get 2 FRP to build or package in the future.

PDX gets the shakeup they need, making the move for a elite defender who can be the secondary creator and putting Ben on a team that has enough shooting to compensate for his flaws IMO.

[PDXKnight]

I think this gets it done for all involved (Granted, some SAS fans value Murray as an All Star, but I wont get into that)

PDX TRADES - CJ McCollum, CJ Elleby, 2024 FRP, Top-8 Protected 2026 FRP Lotto Protected
PDX RECEIVES - Ben Simmons

PHI TRADES - Ben Simmons, Tyrese Maxey
PHI RECEIVES - CJ McCollum, Dejounte Murray

SAS TRADES - Dejounte Murray
SAS RECEIVES - Tyrese Maxey, CJ Elleby, 2024 FRP Top-8 Protected, 2026 FRP Lotto Protected

PDX also sends 1.7M to SAS to cover the Elleby cut.

PHI gets their shot creating guard while upgrading the defense at the other guard position. Getting Murray to play alongside CJ means they can put Dejounte on whomever the opposing teams best guard is defensively while hiding CJ on the other guy.

SAS cashes in on these teams wanting to make a deal but PHI wanting to 'win now'. Maxey is cheap for another 3 years and flashed a ton last season, and they get 2 FRP to build or package in the future.

PDX gets the shakeup they need, making the move for a elite defender who can be the secondary creator and putting Ben on a team that has enough shooting to compensate for his flaws IMO.

Value wise wouldn’t philly likely rather just keep the firsts?

[GEE]

Aside from the obvious balancing of rosters for both teams, One other really good reason to trade CJ for Simmons or Harris is... The benefit to CJ likely becoming a star and fan favorite in Philly. He would finally be out of Dame's shadow, in the "City of Brotherly Love", and with his ability to put people on skates like only a few others can... he may remind a few Philly fans of those glory days of daily Iverson cross-over highlights on SC.

NBAPA President CJ McCollum to Philly would be great for him, and the league. He could also become an All-Star IMO, if Philly returns to EC dominance.

[BlazersBroncos]

I think this gets it done for all involved (Granted, some SAS fans value Murray as an All Star, but I wont get into that)

PDX TRADES - CJ McCollum, CJ Elleby, 2024 FRP, Top-8 Protected 2026 FRP Lotto Protected
PDX RECEIVES - Ben Simmons

PHI TRADES - Ben Simmons, Tyrese Maxey
PHI RECEIVES - CJ McCollum, Dejounte Murray

SAS TRADES - Dejounte Murray
SAS RECEIVES - Tyrese Maxey, CJ Elleby, 2024 FRP Top-8 Protected, 2026 FRP Lotto Protected

PDX also sends 1.7M to SAS to cover the Elleby cut.

PHI gets their shot creating guard while upgrading the defense at the other guard position. Getting Murray to play alongside CJ means they can put Dejounte on whomever the opposing teams best guard is defensively while hiding CJ on the other guy.

SAS cashes in on these teams wanting to make a deal but PHI wanting to 'win now'. Maxey is cheap for another 3 years and flashed a ton last season, and they get 2 FRP to build or package in the future.

PDX gets the shakeup they need, making the move for a elite defender who can be the secondary creator and putting Ben on a team that has enough shooting to compensate for his flaws IMO.

Value wise wouldn’t philly likely rather just keep the firsts?

I personally don think so. Joel is only 27 but with his injury history and massive frame, you have to maximize the win-now. Murray is a high level role player who brings great defense at either guard spot, does many little things that win games and doesnt require usage. The only downside to him is his shot, but with every other rotation player outside Thybulle being a near-elite shooter that is alleviated.

I think upgrading two guard spots would be huge for PHI.

[PDXKnight]

Aside from the obvious balancing of rosters for both teams, One other really good reason to trade CJ for Simmons or Harris is... The benefit to CJ likely becoming a star and fan favorite in Philly. He would finally be out of Dame's shadow, in the "City of Brotherly Love", and with his ability to put people on skates like only a few others can... he may remind a few Philly fans of those glory days of daily Iverson cross-over highlights on SC.

NBAPA President CJ McCollum to Philly would be great for him, and the league. He could also become an All-Star IMO, if Philly returns to EC dominance.

i actually wouldn’t be shocked to see cj make the all star game in the east one bit

[DusterBuster]

Aside from the obvious balancing of rosters for both teams, One other really good reason to trade CJ for Simmons or Harris is... The benefit to CJ likely becoming a star and fan favorite in Philly. He would finally be out of Dame's shadow, in the "City of Brotherly Love", and with his ability to put people on skates like only a few others can... he may remind a few Philly fans of those glory days of daily Iverson cross-over highlights on SC.

NBAPA President CJ McCollum to Philly would be great for him, and the league. He could also become an All-Star IMO, if Philly returns to EC dominance.

i actually wouldn’t be shocked to see cj make the all star game in the east one bit

Yeah, I feel like CJ really doesn't getting enough credit at all for how good he would be if he was the only player of his type on a team. If he didn't have a player so similar to himself (but better) as his backcourt mate, he would be putting up mid-20's PPG every night and would pretty easily be in the discussion or making an AS team.

[Wizenheimer]

Exactly why I hated the Lance deal... Losing that FRP in the deal is already (potentially) hurting the team.

how cool would it be if your last name was Nance and you named your son Lance?

as far as the pick, I suppose Portland could just remove the protection if a trade opportunity arose this year. But I don't think the Blazers can arbitrarily remove it; Cleveland would have to cooperate, and maybe they wouldn't. Personally, I think it would have been better to simply convey the pick unprotected than obligating 7 years of Portland's 1st round picks for a role player. Of course, trading an unprotected 1st for Nance would have looked stupid too...

...and even then, Portland would lose the ability to trade the next 2 first round picks between now and the trade deadline. All that for Nance

worse, IMO, is that if the expected happens, then Portland would have traded 3 consecutive 1st round picks, plus Ariza & Jones, for RoCo and Nance. And before anybody says that they will have been late 1st round picks, keep in mind that so far, two of those picks have been a 16th and 23rd pick. Meaning the average has been 18th-19th. That's pretty decent value to give up for a 4-5th option and a backup

and still, Portland has a bollixed roster. Neither RoCo or Nance will likely replace Powell as the starting SF, meaning the Blazers are tiny in the starting lineup. I mean, which starting unit would actually be better: Dame-CJ-Powell-RoCo-Nurkic or Dame-Powell-RoCo-Nance-Nurkic. I'd actually think the 2nd would be better, or at least arguably better, and that doesn't even account for what Portland could get in a CJ trade. How about Dame-Powell-RoCo-Simmons-Nurkic? or maybe even better, Dame-Powell-RoCo-Nance-Simmons?

But to me, that just points at what has always been the roadblock to Portland getting better: Olshey's stubborn 7-year insistence on CJ being the 2nd "star" for Portland. The redundancy with Dame has always made Portland's roster awkward and less optimal. Look at Phoenix: as soon as their starting unit and bench meshed at at optimum level, they made it to the finals. Portland will never get there with Dame/CJ

[Wizenheimer]

i actually wouldn’t be shocked to see cj make the all star game in the east one bit

Guards & Wings:

Tobias Harris
James Harden
Kyrie Irving
Jrue Holiday
Khriss Middleton
Trae Young
Jimmy Butler
Jaysun Tatum
Jalen Brown
Bradley Beal
Malcolm Brogdon
Zach LaVine
Pascal Siakam
Jerami Grant

C's & PF's:

Embidd
Ben Simmons
Kevin Durant
Giannis
Julius Randle
John Collins
Bam Adebayo
Domantas Sabonis
Nikola Vucevic'

fast risers:

Terry Rozier
Lamelo Ball
RJ Barrett
OG Anunoby
Colin Sexton

all CJ would have to do is beat out at least 12 of those guys on the first two lists while holding off all the younger fast risers. Good luck with that. I mean, list the 12 players that CJ is clearly better than

I think people are judging the eastern conference as if it's the same as it was 5 years ago. There has actually been a West > East migration of elite talent like Harden, Durant, Holiday, Randle, Butler, Grant

CJ would have to lead the league in FGA to elevate his stats to all-star level in the East, and if CJ is the #1 option on a team, it's lottery bound and that's always a tougher hurdle for the all-star game