'Short' time till the Draft

[Butter]

I'd hate to move Batum for Parker, especially knowing we'd likely need to include both Miller AND Joel for salary matching, thus eliminating any other salary matching chips we have left. I'd hate losing Batum, I love his potential, and the thought of him and Parker together. That said, there is still the MLE available to find a starter over Martell. And if not,

Parker
Roy
Webster
Aldridge
Oden

is a hell of a starting 5. I'd say Parker improves us, right now, by more over Miller than starting Webster over Batum hurts us.

Plus, it'd be sweet if they could talk in French to each other on court...but I still don't think its Parker.

[BballFanAddict]

it isn't Danny Granger, that won't save KP.

Not to mention the fact that Indy seems to have no reason to trade him. Unless... Oden is going out because he is from there. If that were true I would not be for this trade. Sorry, Granger is clearly the better player, but I do not see him worth getting if its at the expense of seeing whether or not Oden can live up to the hype.

[EGame]

Where the heck is that Pup, I must know if the teams are continuing to discuss. NOW!

[JD45]

I guess I'm surprised at the lack of respect someone like Danny Granger gets. Here is a kid that is 27 years old, has averaged 23 ppg the last three seasons, is shooting over 38% from 3-pt range during that time, 85% FT, 5.5 rebounds, 2.5 assists, 1.2 assists, 1 block...that is Brandon Roy type numbers or better in almost every category except assists.

Am I the only one who noticed TBpup's subtle little clue? I haven't seen him put any one else's name in bold... plus his surprise comes after his declaration that everyone would agree the player would improve the team. TBpup... I got your clue man, even if no one else did.

I thought we all saw it and that is why Granger is now the main topic.

[EGame]

No way, Chris Paul is the main topic because he is awesome. Completley unrealistic, but still awesome.

[BballFanAddict]

No way, Chris Paul is the main topic because he is awesome. Completley unrealistic, but still awesome.

I am right there with you, Egame! Its Paul or bust at this point!

Paul saves KP's job for 2 reasons. He is a SUPER STAR. And, Paul Allen LOVES PGs for some reason.

[Walton'sBeard!]

It's Granger AND Paul, but they want Pendergraph, which may kill the deal.

[EGame]

It's Granger AND Paul, but they want Pendergraph, which may kill the deal.

Shoot, that is pushing it a little/a deal breaker. I may be on KP's side if he declines it in the endbecause Penderbeast is a superstud in the making

[SoHo]

It's Granger AND Paul, but they want Pendergraph, which may kill the deal.

Maybe KP can whip out a Pritchslap and send them Roy instead.

[TBpup]

I would assume Aldridge is being traded because he is the only player other than Roy or Oden that is young and could really help a team.

I've seen a lot of LMA's name being mentioned in trades. Here is the difficulty with that. Due to the new contract he signed, he is now 'poison pill' status. As of July 1, he becomes a BYC1 player which is still very difficult to include in a trade...not impossible but much more difficult than a 'regular' contract.

I thought we all saw it and that is why Granger is now the main topic.

JD45...lol, exactly right. I just brought up his name in question to several posts not giving him much value. It was just a question given his production.

[EGame]

Hey Pup, if you're still around how are the trade talks progressing? Have they improved at all to where a deal may get done? Is it still about 50/50? Have they stalled a bit or looking like nothing may happen? I would like to know.

[Caravaggio]

My initial reaction to Granger is similar to many others: "oh he's just a chucker". But on further review I think he could be a very good fit next to Roy and LMA. Haven't we all be clamoring for a legit 2nd scorer to take pressure off of Roy? I think that's exactly what Granger is. If he came in, played 35 a night, took 15 shots, got to the foul line 5 times and scored 19 a game we would be an improved team. We haven't had a legit scoring threat from the SF position since, well, Darius Miles.

Losing Batum would SUCK, however.

If Aldridge is involved in a trade for Granger then there MUST be something else going on. LMA+Roy+Granger = win. 2 out of 3 and we're in the same boat we are now.

[shamelessblazer]

What are the odds we consider trading Oden? There are a number of players I'd trade him for, but not sure any of it's realistic.

[Billy]

My initial reaction to Granger is similar to many others: "oh he's just a chucker". But on further review I think he could be a very good fit next to Roy and LMA. Haven't we all be clamoring for a legit 2nd scorer to take pressure off of Roy? I think that's exactly what Granger is. If he came in, played 35 a night, took 15 shots, got to the foul line 5 times and scored 19 a game we would be an improved team. We haven't had a legit scoring threat from the SF position since, well, Darius Miles.

Losing Batum would SUCK, however.

If Aldridge is involved in a trade for Granger then there MUST be something else going on. LMA+Roy+Granger = win. 2 out of 3 and we're in the same boat we are now.

That's an interesting point. Makes you wonder if Portland is intending to add that third piece rather replace someone that is pre-existing. Either that, or it's a significant upgrade to either Roy or Aldridge.

[Mr Odd]

In order for the Blazers to get where they need to be
they will need to trade two if not all of the following.. .
Oden, LMA, Batum, Webster, Rudy, Miller, Pryz
Depending on who we are trading for.

[Wizenheimer]

Wiz- curious why you would consider Batum for Wallace, but not for Granger.

I was thinking primarily about Granger's knees when I rejected trading Batum for him

But I've always liked Wallace's game, and I especially think Wallace and Aldridge would complement each other well. Wallace's rebounding from the SF position would offset Aldridge's deficiency in that area

and Wallace is already the top-level defender we hope Batum becomes

His weakness is 3pt shooting of course. But if it's a choice between the weak 3pt shooting of Wallace or the weak knees of Granger, I'll take Wallace

I'm just satisfied with Batum obviously, and I think Portland would regret shipping out Batum for almost any of the players mentioned in this thread

[Mr Odd]

Wiz- curious why you would consider Batum for Wallace, but not for Granger.

I was thinking primarily about Granger's knees when I rejected trading Batum for him

But I've always liked Wallace's game, and I especially think Wallace and Aldridge would complement each other well. Wallace's rebounding from the SF position would offset Aldridge's deficiency in that area

and Wallace is already the top-level defender we hope Batum becomes

His weakness is 3pt shooting of course. But if it's a choice between the weak 3pt shooting of Wallace or the weak knees of Granger, I'll take Wallace

I'm just satisfied with Batum obviously, and I think Portland would regret shipping out Batum for almost any of the players mentioned in this thread

So you think Batum will become better then Wallace??

[EGame]

Eek, now that we have Miller at PG, I am not a big fan of grabbing Wallace (and while Granger has knee concerns, Wallace is a pretty injury prone player himself). I like him a lot and his game, but there is no 3 point shooting in that line-up other than Roy, but that is now how we want to use him. I f I had to choose Granger or Wallace it is Granger with our current team. If we had a PG who could shoot then maybe I would go for Wallace, but not with out current lineup.

[Caravaggio]

His weakness is 3pt shooting of course. But if it's a choice between the weak 3pt shooting of Wallace or the weak knees of Granger, I'll take Wallace

I find this to be an extremely odd distinction, considering that Wallace has a much more extensive injury history than Granger. Wallace averages 60 games a year for his career. Granger averages 74.

[Wizenheimer]

Wiz- curious why you would consider Batum for Wallace, but not for Granger.

I was thinking primarily about Granger's knees when I rejected trading Batum for him

But I've always liked Wallace's game, and I especially think Wallace and Aldridge would complement each other well. Wallace's rebounding from the SF position would offset Aldridge's deficiency in that area

and Wallace is already the top-level defender we hope Batum becomes

His weakness is 3pt shooting of course. But if it's a choice between the weak 3pt shooting of Wallace or the weak knees of Granger, I'll take Wallace

I'm just satisfied with Batum obviously, and I think Portland would regret shipping out Batum for almost any of the players mentioned in this thread

So you think Batum will become better then Wallace??

he might end up better, but if you paid attention you'll notice that Wallace was one of only 3 players I listed as being willing to include Batum in the trade for; the other two being Bosh and Paul